DISCLAIMER: 9:04:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY 9:05:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. 9:06:36AM REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S 9:07:30AM SANDY SANCHEZ. 9:08:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. HENDERSON, GOOD MORNING. 9:09:48AM THEY CONGREGATE ALONG THE LENGTH OF LAUREL STREET, THE NORTH 9:10:51AM THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR HISTORIC CEMETERIES. 9:11:56AM RELATIONS. 9:13:10AM FUND, BUT THE PLANTING ON-SITE WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. 9:14:09AM I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH HOW CAN WE ENFORCE OUR MITIGATION 9:15:29AM AND THEN THEY SEND ME A CARD IN THE MAIL WHICH ALSO COSTS 9:16:29AM YOU TAKE OUT THE GREEN PEPPERS, IT'S STILL FRICKIN' 9:17:29AM SEE NOW IT IS BEING CALLED RESOLUTION 344. 9:18:59AM BECAUSE WHAT IT SPEAKS TO WHAT DR. KING LAID OUT YEARS AGO, 9:20:21AM ONE THING I'M GOING TO SAY, WHITE PEOPLE FULL OF TRICKS. 9:21:33AM OCCUPIED PALESTINE. 9:22:50AM YOU TRY TO EXPLAIN YOUR SITUATION, THEY TREAT YOU LIKE DIRT. 9:23:57AM TO DO, TRY TO COME IN AND FLIP IT AROUND. 9:25:23AM I AM MR. DOSS. 9:26:41AM ALL RIGHT. 9:28:05AM WELL AS SOFTWARE PRODUCTION. 9:29:32AM THANK YOU SO MUCH. 9:30:33AM IT WASN'T -- NOW, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE -- THIS 9:31:37AM BUT WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? 9:32:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE TAKING UP NUMBER 4 RIGHT NOW. 9:33:41AM I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO FILE ONE AND SHOULD COME 9:34:54AM HUNDRED DOLLARS TO FILE A PETITION FOR REVIEW. 9:35:54AM PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOUR CODE SAYS IF IT WAS IN 9:37:15AM HERE, BUT FAIRNESS IS PROBABLY THE BEST AVENUE HERE. 9:38:20AM YOU DON'T ALWAYS WANT TO AGREE WITH EACH OTHER. 9:39:13AM I HOPE YOU READ IT ALL. 9:40:29AM OF CITY COUNCIL CUTTING OUT THE CITY COUNCIL ENGAGEMENT IN 9:41:20AM YOU ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CITIZENS. 9:42:28AM WE'RE DOING THE CODE REWRITE. 9:43:45AM I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF HIDDEN FROM THE PROCESS AND 9:44:43AM DO YOU HAVE A DATE? 9:45:55AM WORKS, FRANKLY. 9:46:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 9:48:08AM THE WASTE THAT IS PRODUCED BY THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF 9:49:21AM WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION DIVISION, OPERATIONS AND THEN
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9:04:36AM COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO ORDER.
9:04:38AM IF WE COULD TAKE A MOMENT, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, DO YOU
9:04:43AM HAVE AN INVOCATION?
9:04:44AM LET'S PLEASE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN THE
9:04:48AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:04:48AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:05:01AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:05:02AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:05:15AM ALL RIGHT.
9:05:15AM IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:05:23AM >> CARLSON?
9:05:23AM HURTAK?
9:05:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:05:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:05:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:05:30AM >> VIERA?
9:05:30AM MIRANDA?
9:05:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:05:32AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:05:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT, COUNCIL MEMBER
9:05:35AM CARLSON WILL NOT BE HERE TODAY.
9:05:36AM I BELIEVE HE SENT A MEMO REGARDING HIS ABSENCE.
9:05:42AM COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL BE POPPING IN ANY MOMENT.
9:05:44AM MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER THE RULES AND PROCEDURES?
9:05:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, VERY BRIEFLY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:05:50AM GOOD MORNING, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:05:52AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON
9:05:56AM ANY ITEM ON THE WORKSHOP FOR THREE MINUTES AFTER EACH
9:06:02AM WORKSHOP ITEM.
9:06:03AM IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO STAY AND WANT TO TALK TO ANY ITEM THIS
9:06:06AM MORNING, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO AT THIS TIME.
9:06:08AM THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS.
9:06:12AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD ALSO PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT
9:06:15AM YOU ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR INCLUDING MAKING
9:06:18AM VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
9:06:22AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS.
9:06:23AM ALSO, PLEASE BE REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM MAKING ANY PERSONAL
9:06:25AM ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR MEMBER
9:06:28AM OF THE PUBLIC.
9:06:29AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER PEOPLE WHO FAIL TO COMPLY
9:06:33AM WITH THESE RULES AND, AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR, MAY BE
9:06:39AM MEETING.
9:06:39AM FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER
9:06:44AM UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:06:45AM THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE
9:06:47AM QUESTIONS OR HAVE DIALOGUE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:06:50AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:06:53AM THANK YOU.
9:06:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:06:54AM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA IS IN THE
9:06:57AM HOUSE.
9:06:57AM WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:07:01AM THIS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:07:02AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK -- WELL, IT'S GENERAL PUBLIC
9:07:06AM COMMENT.
9:07:06AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
9:07:09AM PLEASE COME UP.
9:07:10AM AND ALSO, BECAUSE THIS IS A WORKSHOP, THERE WILL BE PUBLIC
9:07:13AM COMMENT AFTER EACH OF THE ITEMS AS WELL.
9:07:14AM BUT THIS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT NOT RELATED TO ANY OF THE
9:07:22AM ITEMS.
9:07:22AM COME ON UP.
9:07:24AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:07:28AM >> WE HAVE A CHOICE.
9:07:29AM GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:07:31AM REGARDING CIVIC ASSOCIATION, HOME OF THE VILA BROTHERS PARK.
9:07:38AM AND CONCERNED CITIZEN.
9:07:40AM I'VE COME TO CITY COUNCIL TODAY TO ASK YOU NOT TO MOVE
9:07:44AM FORWARD ON ITEM NUMBER 4.
9:07:45AM THIS ITEM WILL LIMIT YOUR DECISION-MAKING CONSIDERABLY.
9:07:48AM LAND DEVELOPMENT HAS RECENTLY HIRED CLARION CONSULTANTS TO
9:07:53AM CLARIFY AND SIMPLIFY THE PRESENT INEFFICIENT ZONING CODES.
9:07:57AM SOME COMMUNITY LEADERS MET WITH CLARION ON TUESDAY, AND I
9:08:00AM THINK MOST OF YOU MET WITH THEM YESTERDAY.
9:08:03AM I'M SURE YOU CAME AWAY WITH THE SAME POSITIVE FEELING AS WE
9:08:08AM DID.
9:08:09AM THAT WOULD ANALYZE THE AMBIGUITIES AND SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS.
9:08:13AM BECAUSE OF THIS, ANY CHANGES TO 27.61 WOULD NOT BE EFFICIENT
9:08:17AM AND WOULD BE PREMATURE.
9:08:19AM THIS CHANGE LIMITS YOUR DECISION MAKING, MAKES NO MENTION OF
9:08:24AM COMMUNITY NOTIFICATION, AND IS NOT TRANSPARENT.
9:08:29AM TAKING AWAY DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY WILL KEEP YOU FURTHER
9:08:32AM AWAY FROM SUPPORTING YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
9:08:33AM CITY COUNCIL, THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA ELECTED YOU TO PROTECT
9:08:38AM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:08:39AM WE DID NOT ELECT CITY STAFF.
9:08:41AM CITY STAFF -- PERMANENT DAMAGE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:08:46AM PLEASE SAY NO TO MOVING THIS ITEM FORWARD.
9:08:48AM THANK YOU.
9:08:56AM I RECEIVED YOUR E-MAIL LAST NIGHT, SO I JUST WANTED TO
9:09:00AM ACKNOWLEDGE IT.
9:09:00AM I'LL START WORKING ON IT.
9:09:02AM >> I'M HERE TO FOLLOW UP WITH PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT.
9:09:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:09:05AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:09:05AM >> AILEEN HENDERSON, THE CEMETERY SOCIETY.
9:09:07AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:09:09AM FIRST, THANK YOU TO THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND LEGISLATIVE
9:09:10AM AIDES THAT JOINED THE ANNUAL CLEANUP AND CELEBRATION AT
9:09:10AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY IN HONOR OF MEMORIAL DAY HOSTED BY
9:09:10AM FRIENDS OF MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY AND THE CEMETERY SOCIETY,
9:09:10AM SO THANK YOU.
9:09:21AM I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE SITUATION AT OAK LAWN
9:09:24AM CEMETERY.
9:09:25AM I KNOW A COUNCILMAN BROUGHT THIS ISSUE UP AT A RECENT
9:09:28AM MEETING.
9:09:29AM I WANT TO REINFORCE WHAT HE WAS TOLD BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS BY
9:09:31AM SHARING WITH ALL OF YOU WHAT THE VOLUNTEERS WITH THE
9:09:34AM CEMETERY SOCIETY EXPERIENCED WHEN WE DID THE OAK LAWN
9:09:36AM CEMETERY CLEANUP LAST MONTH.
9:09:38AM WHILE WE EXPECT EXTRA DEBRIS FROM THE UNSHELTERED, WHAT WE
9:09:42AM WITNESSED WAS THE WORST I HAD SEEN.
9:09:44AM WE HAVE A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH THE UNSHELTERED IN THAT AREA.
9:09:51AM END OF THE CEMETERY.
9:09:52AM ALSO LINE THE WEST WALL.
9:09:53AM THE TWO AREAS IS WHERE THE DEBRIS IS THE MOST CHALLENGING.
9:09:56AM WHAT WE WITNESSED AT LAST MONTH'S CLEANUP IS AN ABUNDANT
9:09:59AM AMOUNT OF TRASH FROM LARGE CARDBOARD PIECES TO CLOTHING
9:10:02AM WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS STREWN ACROSS THE HEAD STONES,
9:10:05AM STYROFOAM FOOD CONTAINERS, BEER CANS, LIQUOR BOTTLES,
9:10:09AM NEEDLES AND OVERWHELMING SMELL OF URINE AND UNDENIABLE ODOR
9:10:13AM OF FECES.
9:10:14AM COUNCIL, WE NEED A PLAN OF ACTION IMMEDIATELY.
9:10:16AM THE SITUATION PROPOSES MANY CHALLENGES, ONE OF THEM BEING
9:10:19AM SAFETY.
9:10:20AM THERE ARE THREE RESIDENT BUILDINGS, TWO ARE SENIOR LIVING
9:10:22AM FACILITIES AND ONE IS FOR MULTIFAMILY USE WITH THE PROPOSAL
9:10:25AM OF MORE LIVING FACILITIES IN THE WORKS LITERALLY RIGHT
9:10:28AM ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CEMETERY.
9:10:29AM THERE IS ALSO THE KIDS MASON COMMUNITY CENTER AT THE
9:10:33AM SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE CEMETERY WITH THE PLANNED COMPLETION
9:10:36AM DATE FOR AUGUST 2024.
9:10:37AM WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE THERE IS ENCORE, ANOTHER MULTIFAMILY
9:10:42AM RESIDENCE AND PERRY HARVEY PARK SENIOR.
9:10:45AM FOR ME, I THINK IT IS SHAMEABLE THAT TAMPA'S HISTORY HAS
9:10:48AM SUCCUMB TO THIS.
9:10:49AM WHEN WILL WE START RECOGNIZING THE VALUE IN THE HISTORY AND
9:10:53AM THIS SITUATION WILL TAKE A MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL EFFORT AND IT
9:10:57AM SHOULD STEM FROM COUNCIL AS A DIRECTIVE IN THE FORM OF A
9:10:59AM MOTION TO GET THE BALL ROLLING FOR A PLAN OF ACTION.
9:11:02AM I HOPE WE CAN ACT SWIFTLY FOR RESOLUTION.
9:11:05AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:11:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:11:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:11:07AM NEXT SPEAKER, GOOD MORNING.
9:11:10AM >> HI.
9:11:11AM MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
9:11:13AM I WANT TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP AT THE TREE WORKSHOP
9:11:16AM RECENTLY.
9:11:16AM IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY MONITORING THE MITIGATION TREES
9:11:20AM THAT ARE PLANTED AND FOLLOWING UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
9:11:23AM STILL THERE.
9:11:24AM RECENTLY, WE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION HOW PEOPLE ARE
9:11:29AM SELLING THE MITIGATION TREES.
9:11:34AM NATURAL RESOURCES WAS CONTACTED RECENTLY ABOUT A SITUATION
9:11:36AM LIKE THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
9:11:37AM THEY ARE SELLING THEIR MITIGATION TREES AND CODE ENFORCEMENT
9:11:43AM SAID THAT SOMEONE HAS TO FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT AND PUT
9:11:47AM THEIR NAME TO IT.
9:11:48AM AND THAT IS PROBLEMATIC SOMETIMES BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
9:11:52AM NEAR THAT PERSON ARE WORRIED ABOUT RETALIATION OR SOURED
9:11:57AM AND SO LORRAINE PERINO BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE
9:12:01AM CITY'S MITIGATION TREE POLICY.
9:12:04AM THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE REMOVED.
9:12:05AM WHY DOES A CITIZEN HAVE TO PUT THEIR NAME TO A COMPLAINT?
9:12:10AM THE CITY NEEDS TO BE ENFORCING ITS MITIGATION RULES AND
9:12:14AM PROTECTING THESE TREES WITHOUT CREATING POSSIBLE PROBLEMS.
9:12:19AM SOMETIMES THINGS CAN REALLY ESCALATE BETWEEN NEIGHBORS AND
9:12:22AM NOBODY NEEDS THAT IN THEIR LIFE.
9:12:24AM I WOULD LIKE THAT EXPLORED BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT
9:12:26AM TO ME.
9:12:26AM AND THE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, MITIGATION TREES IS
9:12:31AM SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO, I DON'T REALLY
9:12:33AM UNDERSTAND HOW SOMETIMES NATURAL RESOURCES IS ALLOWING
9:12:36AM MITIGATION TREES TO BE PLANTED IN AN AREA THAT'S UNSUITABLE.
9:12:39AM AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.
9:12:41AM ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS BEING SOLD, THEY HAD A LOT THAT WAS
9:12:44AM 60 FEET WIDE AND ON THE REAR PERIMETER THEY PLANTED FOUR
9:12:48AM LIVE OAKS.
9:12:49AM WELL, 60 FEET IS NOT ENOUGH DISTANCE FOR FOUR LIVE OAKS.
9:12:53AM ONCE THEY BECOME MATURE.
9:12:55AM SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT APPROVED
9:13:00AM THAT BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T PLANT THE TREES ON-SITE, THEY
9:13:02AM HAVE TO PAY INTO THE FUND OR DO OTHER THINGS.
9:13:07AM SO THEY WERE PLANTING THEM ON-SITE TO AVOID PAYING INTO THE
9:13:13AM ALSO SOMETIMES THEY'LL PLANT THEM UNDERNEATH THE CANOPY OF
9:13:16AM ANOTHER LIVE OAK.
9:13:17AM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO THRIVE THERE.
9:13:19AM AND THAT'S WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE MOTIVATED TO SELL THEM
9:13:21AM BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE CANOPY OF THIS OTHER
9:13:24AM TREE OR THERE'S JUST TOO MANY OF THEM TOO CLOSE TOGETHER,
9:13:27AM THAT SORT OF THING. SO THE PLANTING GUIDELINES FOR PLANTING
9:13:31AM ON-SITE DON'T SEEM TO MATCH.
9:13:34AM THEY DON'T SEEM TO MATCH WITH THE BEST PRACTICES THAT THE
9:13:36AM CITY RECOMMENDS OR ENFORCES.
9:13:38AM ANYHOW, I'D LIKE TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION SO MAYBE WE
9:13:43AM CAN LOOK INTO THAT MORE.
9:13:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:13:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MS. BENNETT, IF I MAY, I WANT TO MAKE
9:13:47AM SURE I UNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING.
9:13:49AM CODE ENFORCEMENT IS PUTTING THEIR NAMES ON IT, THE REASON
9:13:54AM FOR IT, NOT BECAUSE WE CHANGED A LAW.
9:13:57AM THAT IS THE STATE CHANGING A LAW AND THAT CAUSES A LOT OF
9:13:59AM PROBLEMS FOR SOMEONE.
9:14:00AM WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS IN SOCIETY BUT WE'RE NOT THE
9:14:04AM LEGISLATURE.
9:14:04AM THEY ARE THE ONES THAT PASSED THAT.
9:14:06AM >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:14:07AM LIKE IF YOU MAKE A CODE ENFORCEMENT -- I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
9:14:12AM TREE WITHOUT ALWAYS HAVING TO PUT --
9:14:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT THE
9:14:16AM PLANTING OF TREES THAT CLOSE.
9:14:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:14:19AM YES, MA'AM.
9:14:19AM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:14:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:14:30AM WHAT I HANDED YOU IS CHAPTER 24, SECTION 120 OF THE RENTAL
9:14:35AM LICENSING CODE.
9:14:36AM I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS RIDICULOUSLY UNDERPRICED.
9:14:42AM I'M SORRY.
9:14:42AM THE BUDGET COMMITTEE STARTED A YEAR AGO OR ACTUALLY AUGUST
9:14:47AM IT CAME OUT, THE FEES AND STUFF CAME OUT THE SAME DAY AS THE
9:14:52AM BUDGET CAME OUT LAST YEAR.
9:14:54AM AND WE STILL HAVE NOT MADE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THIS.
9:14:57AM EVEN FOR MULTIFAMILY, I COULD LIVE WITH THEM THE WAY THEY
9:14:59AM ARE, BUT IT IS $23 TO REGISTER A HOUSE FOR A YEAR.
9:15:03AM AND I STILL THINK THAT IT'S WOEFULLY UNDERVALUED WHEN THIS
9:15:07AM DEPARTMENT CAME BEFORE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, THEY DID NOT
9:15:11AM BREAK DOWN ALL OF THE BUSINESS LICENSES, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW
9:15:15AM HOW MUCH THESE BUSINESS LICENSES ARE ACTUALLY COSTING TO
9:15:19AM MAKE THAT TRANSACTION HAPPEN.
9:15:23AM I WOULD ARGUE THERE'S NO WAY THEY ARE ONLY DOING THEM FOR 23
9:15:27AM BUCKS BECAUSE IT TAKES SOMEBODY TO PROCESS IT EVERY TIME.
9:15:33AM MONEY.
9:15:33AM I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
9:15:34AM THE OTHER THING, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN CARRYING
9:15:37AM AROUND FOR TWO MONTHS AND I KEPT FORGETTING TO SAY SOMETHING
9:15:40AM OR BIGGER THINGS TO TALK ABOUT BUT SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE
9:15:42AM INTO CONSIDERATION.
9:15:43AM LET'S LOOK AT OUR BUSINESS LICENSING, HOW MUCH WE'RE
9:15:45AM CHARGING FOR IT.
9:15:46AM WHY DO WE HAVE THAT RATE?
9:15:48AM WHAT IS THE REALISTIC VALUE OF THE SERVICES THAT WE ARE
9:15:52AM PROVIDING THROUGH THAT BUSINESS SERVICE?
9:15:54AM ARE WE BREAKING EVEN?
9:15:55AM I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THAT.
9:15:57AM BUT COUNCIL NEEDS TO ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE NEED MONEY
9:16:00AM FOR THINGS.
9:16:01AM AND IF WE'RE PAYING MONEY TO DO THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE
9:16:05AM ASKING US TO DO, IF WE'RE IN THE HOLE FOR PROVIDING A
9:16:08AM SERVICE, THEN WE ARE TAKING AWAY FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
9:16:11AM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO REMIND YOU, AND I GAVE THIS TO YOU
9:16:15AM BEFORE BUT DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO MY BACKPACK THIS MORNING,
9:16:18AM THAT WHOLE THING ABOUT IF YOU GET TURNED DOWN FOR A REZONING
9:16:22AM OR A PLAN AMENDMENT, YOU CAN'T COME BACK FOR 12 MONTHS
9:16:25AM UNLESS IT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
9:16:27AM LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, IF YOU'RE MAKING SPAGHETTI AND
9:16:34AM SPAGHETTI.
9:16:34AM AND TWICE THIS YEAR, JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I'VE GOT
9:16:38AM TWO DIFFERENT CASES WHERE STAFF HAS APPROVED THEM TO COME
9:16:42AM BACK BEFORE A YEAR.
9:16:43AM YOU GUYS ARE BUSY.
9:16:44AM YOU HAVE A FULL SCHEDULE.
9:16:45AM YOU HAVE A FULL AGENDA.
9:16:46AM IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR US TO COME BACK FOR
9:16:50AM SPAGHETTI TWICE JUST BECAUSE THEY TOOK OUT THE GREEN
9:16:52AM PEPPERS.
9:16:53AM LET'S STOP ACTING LIKE THAT AND STOP -- THERE SHOULD NOT BE
9:16:57AM AN EXCEPTION FOR SOMETHING THAT LOOKS THE SAME.
9:16:59AM IF IT LOOKS THE SAME, SMELLS THE SAME, IT IS THE SAME.
9:17:03AM THANK YOU.
9:17:03AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
9:17:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:17:06AM GOOD MORNING.
9:17:07AM YES, MA'AM.
9:17:07AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:17:09AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:17:09AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:17:12AM I WANT TO COME AND FIRST ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK THE BOARD,
9:17:20AM THE COUNCIL FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH RESOLUTION 568.
9:17:24AM BUT SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE I'VE GOTTEN CONFUSED BECAUSE I
9:17:34AM AND SO IF THE THINGS THAT WAS STATED IN RESOLUTION 568 WAS
9:17:39AM RESOLVED AS IT RELATES TO THE MISTREATMENT, THE ACTIONS, THE
9:17:46AM POLICIES, THE BETRAYAL OF A LEGACY OF A SYSTEMATIC
9:17:52AM OPPRESSION AGAINST AFRICAN PEOPLE, WHERE IS THE PROOF FOR
9:17:55AM THAT?
9:17:55AM HOW THEN NOW DO YOU MOVE AND WHO DID YOU CONSULT?
9:18:02AM COME DOWN EVERY THURSDAY, THAT'S THREE DOLLARS PER HOUR.
9:18:06AM I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS CONSULTED FROM THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY
9:18:10AM EVEN THOUGH YOU LAY OUT A LIST OF PEOPLE, SOME THAT HAVE
9:18:13AM GONE ON, BUT WHO WAS CONSULTED AS TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY
9:18:17AM NEEDED?
9:18:17AM AND THEN HOW DO WE VERIFY THINGS THAT HAS NOT BEEN RESOLVED?
9:18:21AM THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN RESOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY AS IT RELATES
9:18:25AM TO THE ONGOING PRACTICES, THE LACK OF INVESTMENT IN OUR
9:18:30AM COMMUNITY, THE MASS INCARCERATION OF PEOPLE IN OUR
9:18:34AM COMMUNITY, AND I CAN GO ON AND ON.
9:18:36AM YOUR OWN REPORT SHOW THAT IN EAST TAMPA AND THE CITY OF
9:18:40AM TAMPA HAS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF POVERTY IN THE STATE OF
9:18:43AM FLORIDA.
9:18:43AM SO HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD?
9:18:45AM THAT'S RIGHT.
9:18:48AM CAUTION.
9:18:49AM THOSE SIGN ON TO THIS NEW RESOLUTION 344.
9:18:53AM THAT IT MIGHT LOOK POLITICALLY SAFE FOR YOU, BUT IT'S NOT.
9:19:04AM HOW MODERATE WHITE PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE A PASSIVE PEACE.
9:19:09AM EVERYTHING IS GOOD.
9:19:10AM IT IS NOT THE JOB OF THIS COMMUNITY OR THE PEOPLE THAT HAS
9:19:14AM BEEN OPPRESSED TO WORK TOWARD AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY.
9:19:18AM THAT'S YOUR JOB.
9:19:19AM IT IS YOUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LEAST FORTUNATE IS
9:19:22AM RISEN TO THE POINT THAT WE CAN HAVE A SEAMLESS CITY.
9:19:26AM WE DON'T HAVE ONE.
9:19:27AM SO AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, WE GONNA KEEP ON TALKING ABOUT
9:19:31AM RESOLUTION 568.
9:19:33AM WE GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW YOU, THOSE FOUR OF YOU THAT WAS HERE
9:19:38AM WROTE, SIGNED ON YOUR OWN ACCORD THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT
9:19:41AM THIS CITY HAD NOT LIVED UP TO ITS OBLIGATION AS IT RELATED
9:19:45AM TO AFRICAN COMMUNITY.
9:19:46AM AND WHAT I DO REMEMBER HEARING, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON TO
9:19:53AM THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS NEW RESOLUTION WAS NOT THE SAME.
9:19:56AM NO, IT IS NOT THE SAME.
9:19:58AM DO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH 344.
9:20:01AM LET US GO BACK TO RESOLUTION 568 AND ONCE WE COMPLETED 568,
9:20:09AM WE THEN WILL LOOK AT 344.
9:20:11AM THANK YOU.
9:20:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:20:17AM YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.
9:20:19AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:20:24AM THEY ARE GOING TO TRICK YOU EVERY TIME, EVERY SINGLE TIME
9:20:27AM THE WHITE FOLKS GOING TO TRICK US.
9:20:29AM BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS FOR THE LAST 624 YEARS, WE GET
9:20:33AM NOTHING OUT OF THE DEAL.
9:20:35AM FOR THE LAST 624 YEARS, WE GET NOTHING OUT OF THE DEAL.
9:20:40AM THIS CITY GIVES US NOTHING OUT OF THE DEAL.
9:20:43AM SINCE THE CITY WAS FORMED IN 1855, WE'VE GOTTEN NOTHING OUT
9:20:46AM OF THE DEAL.
9:20:47AM NOTHING.
9:20:48AM THEY TRICK US.
9:20:51AM THEY KEEP TRICKING US AND TRICK US SOME MORE AND THEN HAVE
9:20:54AM TO STOP.
9:20:55AM IT HAVE TO STOP.
9:20:56AM THE BIG CALL IS REPARATIONS.
9:21:00AM THAT IS THE BIG CALL.
9:21:01AM REPARATIONS, $3 MILLION PER AFRICAN PERSON, MAN, WOMAN, AND
9:21:05AM CHILD ON THE PLANET EARTH.
9:21:06AM REPARATIONS.
9:21:07AM REMEMBER THAT WORD, REPARATIONS.
9:21:11AM AND WHO MURDERED THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN?
9:21:16AM THE SAME PEOPLE THAT MURDERED 70,000 PEOPLE IN PALESTINE IN
9:21:23AM THE 70-DAY PERIOD AND THE WORLD ACTING LIKE THEY AIN'T GOT
9:21:27AM NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT.
9:21:29AM THE SAME BUTCHERS IN WASHINGTON, D.C., THE SAME BUTCHERS IN
9:21:35AM CALLING THE ISRAEL, NO SUCH PLACE THAT YOU HAVE TO KNOW.
9:21:41AM WAR CRIMINALS.
9:21:42AM HENRY KISSINGER WAR CRIMINALS ALL OVER THE WORLD.
9:21:44AM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
9:21:46AM WAR CRIMINALS WALKING AROUND FREE.
9:21:49AM SOME PEOPLE PUTTING WARRANTS FOR THEIR ARREST NOW SO THEY
9:21:54AM CAN'T GO EVERY PLACE FREE LIKE THEY USED TO.
9:21:56AM AND THE WORD IS REPARATIONS.
9:22:02AM WANT TO SAY WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS CITY, WHAT WE WANT THIS
9:22:04AM CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK INTO IS THIS CHILD SUPPORT SITUATION.
9:22:08AM CALL THE CHIEF JUDGE AND TELL THEM STOP THE CHILD SUPPORT
9:22:12AM SITUATION IN DISTRICT 13 IN THE JUDICIAL DISTRICT 13.
9:22:17AM STOP THIS CHILD SUPPORT SITUATION BECAUSE IT'S HARMING, IT'S
9:22:21AM BEEN HARMING SINCE 1975 AFRICAN MEN.
9:22:25AM AND THESE CHILD SUPPORT HEARING OFFICERS NASTY, THE
9:22:29AM NASTIEST, LOWDOWN WHITE PEOPLE YOU CAN FIND.
9:22:34AM NASTY.
9:22:34AM ARABELLA CAMPBELL.
9:22:36AM CHARLES DENTON.
9:22:38AM A BUNCH OF OTHER ONES DOWN THERE.
9:22:40AM THEY ARE NASTY.
9:22:41AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RECORD, THEY ARE NASTY.
9:22:43AM AND WHEN YOU TALK THE LAW -- WHEN BLACK PEOPLE GO IN THERE,
9:22:48AM WE DON'T KNOW THE LAW AND CAN'T AFFORD ATTORNEYS.
9:22:53AM YOU GO IN WITH THE LAW, SAY, HEY, THIS IS THE LAW, THEY
9:22:56AM DON'T GIVE YOU ANY CASE.
9:22:57AM THEY DON'T SCHEDULE ANY CASE FOR YOU.
9:23:04AM SO YOU ARE JUST SITTING THERE, HEY, I HAVE THE LAW, WHAT'S
9:23:07AM GOING ON NOW.
9:23:08AM YOU CAN'T GET A HEARING ON IT.
9:23:10AM THEY ARE NASTY AND THAT NEED TO CHANGE.
9:23:12AM AND THIS CITY COUNCIL NEED TO CALL THE CHIEF JUDGE SABELLA.
9:23:16AM TELL HIM REVIEW THAT CHILD SUPPORT SITUATION AND STOP IT.
9:23:20AM MEN OR WOMEN WHO CHILD SUPPORT PAY DIRECT, DON'T PAY THROUGH
9:23:24AM THE GOVERNMENT.
9:23:25AM PAY DIRECT.
9:23:25AM THAT IS YOUR DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR
9:23:28AM FAMILY, PAY DIRECT.
9:23:29AM DO NOT PAY THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT.
9:23:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:23:31AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:23:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:23:35AM SUGRET DOSS.
9:23:37AM I HEARD A REFERENCE TO ME.
9:23:39AM I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO THIS.
9:23:41AM THIS CAME DIRECTLY FROM ONE OF THE NASTY HEARING OFFICERS
9:23:44AM HE'S TALKING ABOUT, ACTUALLY TWO OF THEM.
9:23:51AM >> RECORDING: NOT FLIPPING THIS AROUND THAT'S WHAT YOU LIKE
9:24:01AM YOU'RE NOT DOING IT.
9:24:02AM I'M NOT ON TRIAL HERE.
9:24:03AM THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT ON TRIAL.
9:24:05AM YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE ISSUE OF CHILD SUPPORT FOR FAILING
9:24:08AM TO MAKE CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT.
9:24:11AM >> RECORDING: MADE NOTICE OF THE RECORD, I DON'T THINK THAT
9:24:14AM THERE'S ANYTHING INCORRECT IN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN TERMS OF
9:24:17AM THE DELAY IN SERVICE.
9:24:19AM THIS IS ALL SOMETHING THAT I WROTE ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS
9:24:22AM ORDER.
9:24:23AM YES, DELAYS.
9:24:24AM 120-DAY RULE THAT REQUIRES SERVICE.
9:24:26AM DIDN'T HAPPEN.
9:24:27AM DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE SECOND CONDITION, DIDN'T HAPPEN ON THE
9:24:31AM THIRD CONDITION.
9:24:36AM >> YOUR POSITION THAT THE RULE DOESN'T APPLY TO ME?
9:24:39AM >> APPLIES THEN BUT YOU'RE BRINGING IT UP TWO DECADES LATER.
9:24:46AM >> RECORDING: [INDISCERNIBLE]
9:24:49AM >> RECORDING: NO, MY POSITION -- WHY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
9:24:54AM YOU'RE ABLE TO CHALLENGE UNDER 12540.
9:24:57AM >> AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, I PUT REST IN PEACE TO BROTHER
9:25:10AM CRAIG -- I KNEW HIM AS DR. CRAIG COLLINS.
9:25:15AM HE WENT TO SCHOOL WITH ME AT JEFFERSON.
9:25:19AM I NORMALLY DON'T TALK ABOUT THE CHILD SUPPORT ISSUE.
9:25:27AM CRAIG SAW US IN THE CHILD SUPPORT OFFICE.
9:25:29AM BEFORE HE PASSED AND HE WENT TO SCHOOL WITH YOU.
9:25:33AM BEFORE HE PASSED, SAID, DOSS, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH MY
9:25:39AM PASSPORT.
9:25:40AM GENERALLY ASSOCIATED WITH PEOPLE WHO OWE $2,500 IN CHILD
9:25:45AM SUPPORT.
9:25:45AM I DIDN'T KNOW HIS PASSPORT WAS SUSPENDED AND HE COULDN'T GO
9:25:48AM OVERSEAS TO GET SOME MEDICINAL ASSISTANCE WITH HIS ILLNESS.
9:25:52AM NOW CRAIG IS AN ANCESTOR, SO I TAKE THAT PERSONALLY BECAUSE
9:25:56AM I KNEW HIM PERSONALLY.
9:25:58AM WHAT I'M HERE TO DO IS AMPLIFY WHAT BROTHER METESNOT SAID,
9:26:04AM IT DIDN'T TAKE ME TO BRING UP THE ISSUE OF BLACK SUBJECT
9:26:08AM MATTER JURISDICTION.
9:26:09AM THE REALITY IS I BELIEVE 90% OF THE CASES IN HILLSBOROUGH
9:26:12AM COUNTY -- 95 -- CAN BE REVERSED BECAUSE PROCEDURAL DUE
9:26:16AM PROCESS VIOLATIONS.
9:26:17AM I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING.
9:26:20AM JOE BIDEN, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO WIN FLORIDA, JUST HAVE YOUR
9:26:24AM DOJ COME INTO TAMPA OR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND TELL THEM TO
9:26:28AM STOP USING FEDERAL FUNDS TO VIOLATE BLACK MEN'S FEDERAL
9:26:32AM RIGHTS AND POOR PEOPLE.
9:26:34AM BECAUSE IF YOU ARE POOR, YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE BLACK.
9:26:37AM SHOUT TO UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
9:26:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:26:43AM WE HAVE A REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:26:46AM MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:26:48AM IF YOU ARE ONLINE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:26:50AM >> YES.
9:26:50AM GOOD MORNING.
9:26:51AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH, WEST TAMPA CDC.
9:26:55AM TODAY I'M HERE TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE ROME YARD PROJECT
9:26:59AM RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
9:27:03AM OUR LAST MEETING FOCUSED ON THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SPACE
9:27:08AM RELATED TO THE PROGRAM THAT BOTH THE WEST TAMPA CDC AND THE
9:27:13AM CDC OF TAMPA WERE HOUSED.
9:27:20AM WE'RE GOING TO BE SUBMITTING TO THE DEVELOPER.
9:27:21AM RELATED TO WEST TAMPA.
9:27:24AM OUR PROGRAM IS THE WEST TAMPA TECHNOLOGY WEALTH BUILDING AND
9:27:29AM JOB CREATION CENTER AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT
9:27:33AM AGREEMENT.
9:27:33AM AND IT WAS DESIGNED TO CREATE JOBS AND CREATE WEALTH FOR
9:27:39AM BOTH INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY AND INCREASE
9:27:44AM PUBLIC SAFETY.
9:27:45AM I'LL TALK ABOUT TWO TO SEVEN PROGRAMS.
9:27:49AM THE FIRST IS THE TECHNOLOGY CENTER.
9:27:50AM ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND CREATING THE NEXT GENERATION OF
9:27:55AM JOBS.
9:27:56AM THIS INCLUDES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA -- AS
9:28:06AM WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY, OPEN AI, BOTH YOUNG AND OLD PEOPLE CAN
9:28:15AM START BUILDING MONEY UP TO $80,000 AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE
9:28:19AM TO HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA.
9:28:20AM THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST INITIATIVES THAT SPECIFICALLY
9:28:24AM FOCUSES ON LOW-INCOME INDIVIDUALS USING AI.
9:28:28AM THE NEXT IS THE HOME-BASE INITIATIVE.
9:28:30AM THIS IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT BRINGING IN UP TO 50 BUSINESSES
9:28:35AM OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH CRIMINAL
9:28:38AM RECORDS, LOWER INCOME AND SENIORS.
9:28:40AM EACH OF THESE PROGRAMS WILL BE PARTIALLY FUNDED BY ITSELF.
9:28:45AM OUR NEXT DISCUSSION WILL BE ON OPERATING COSTS AS PER THE
9:28:49AM COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
9:28:51AM AS YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS THAT DO GIVE TO THE WEST TAMPA CDC
9:28:56AM AND THE CDC OF TAMPA GET A TAX WRITE-OFF, SO IT IS A WIN-WIN
9:29:02AM WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:29:04AM OVER THE NEXT FIVE MONTHS -- OVER THE LAST FIVE MONTHS, WE
9:29:08AM SHARED THE INITIATIVE THAT INCLUDES THESE INITIATIVES AND
9:29:11AM THE INITIATIVE THAT GOES BEYOND THIS.
9:29:13AM YOU SHOULD KNOW WITH EACH INITIATIVE, IDENTIFIED A FUNDING
9:29:19AM SOURCE.
9:29:20AM I'M HAPPY TO SAY WEST TAMPA, BECAUSE IN THE ROME YARD DEAL,
9:29:25AM BUT THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
9:29:26AM THIS SHOWS WHAT PUBLIC, PRIVATE, AND COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP
9:29:30AM CAN BRING ABOUT.
9:29:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RANDOLPH.
9:29:34AM ALL RIGHT.
9:29:35AM THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:29:37AM COUNCIL MEMBERS, I HAD A QUESTION.
9:29:40AM WE HEARD FROM ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC REGARDING ITEM NUMBER
9:29:43AM 4 AND WE RECEIVED -- I RECEIVED A LOT OF E-MAILS.
9:29:47AM I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY ELSE DID.
9:29:49AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:29:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA IN SEPTEMBER OF
9:29:52AM '23 AND IT WAS ASKED BY LEGAL STAFF TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
9:29:55AM IT WAS CONTINUED IN SEPTEMBER -- SORRY, JULY 13 OF '12.
9:30:01AM CONTINUED SEPTEMBER 28, 2023.
9:30:04AM WE HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENT ON IT.
9:30:06AM I KNOW STAFF PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT.
9:30:08AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO JUST RECEIVE AND FILE THE
9:30:12AM DOCUMENTS.
9:30:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:30:14AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:30:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DISAGREE BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE ASKED FOR
9:30:19AM WAS HOW TO SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE GOT.
9:30:23AM I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS AT THIS ITEM CLARIFY WHAT WE
9:30:27AM WANT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH.
9:30:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WAS BROUGHT ON BY
9:30:32AM LEGAL.
9:30:40AM PARTICULAR ONE WAS BROUGHT ON, A REQUEST BY LEGAL AND IT WAS
9:30:43AM JUST --
9:30:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE, SURE.
9:30:46AM WE GOT AN E-MAIL FROM MARY LOU BAILEY THAT HAS A GREAT
9:30:50AM SUGGESTION THAT WAS ELIMINATING THE AVENUE OF APPEAL TO A
9:30:53AM HEARING OFFICER, WHICH I THINK IS FABULOUS AND I THINK WE
9:30:56AM SHOULD TALK ABOUT.
9:30:57AM I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT COME FORWARD AS SOMETHING.
9:31:01AM WE MAKE THESE RULES.
9:31:02AM THAT WAS KIND OF THE POINT IS THIS WAS SO CONFUSING WE
9:31:05AM WANTED TO SIMPLIFY IT AND STAFF'S CHOICE WAS TO TAKE COUNCIL
9:31:09AM OUT OF IT.
9:31:09AM I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT'S NOT OKAY.
9:31:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CORRECT.
9:31:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WHAT DO WE DO INSTEAD?
9:31:15AM IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE THE MOTION LATER -- I MEAN, I'M
9:31:19AM HAPPY TO TAKE THIS PARTICULAR ONE OFF, BUT I DON'T WANT TO
9:31:22AM FORGET ABOUT IT.
9:31:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW ABOUT WE DO A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
9:31:25AM FILE THE DOCUMENTS RECEIVED BY LEGAL AND THEN FOR DISCUSSION
9:31:29AM WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM ITSELF.
9:31:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT'S -- AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE
9:31:34AM A LONG DISCUSSION.
9:31:35AM SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALREADY IN AGREEMENT.
9:31:39AM I CAN MAKE A MOTION RIGHT NOW AND DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
9:31:42AM IT.
9:31:43AM I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO COME BACK WITH LANGUAGE THAT TAKES
9:31:50AM AWAY THE AVENUE OF APPEAL OF A HEARING OFFICER AND SIMPLY
9:31:53AM BRING IT TO COUNCIL.
9:31:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE AND SECONDED.
9:31:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL MAKE THE OTHER ONE AND WE'LL BE DONE.
9:32:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN,
9:32:01AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
9:32:03AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:32:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SPEAK ON IT A LITTLE BIT.
9:32:06AM SINCE WE'RE DOING THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE
9:32:09AM INFORMATION, HOW MANY COME TO US, HOW MANY GET APPEALED, HOW
9:32:13AM MANY OVERRULED?
9:32:14AM I THINK THAT SHOULD BE PUBLIC INFORMATION.
9:32:17AM I WOULD ADD THAT TO THE MOTION.
9:32:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST WE HAVE THE MOTION BY CLENDENIN TO
9:32:21AM RECEIVE AND FILE WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
9:32:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE TO TALK
9:32:29AM ABOUT 4.
9:32:32AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:32:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW ON IT?
9:32:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE YOUR MOTION.
9:32:39AM IN EFFECT WHAT YOU'RE DOING --
9:32:43AM YES, MA'AM.
9:32:44AM COME ON UP.
9:32:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
9:32:46AM I WAS OUT OF THE ROOM.
9:32:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:32:48AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:32:50AM I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ONE
9:32:52AM WITH THE MAGISTRATE AND THE ONE WITHOUT, THE ONE WITH THE
9:32:55AM MAGISTRATE IS -- WITHOUT THE MAGISTRATE IS 271.
9:32:58AM THE ONE WITH THE MAGISTRATE IS LIKE $2700.
9:33:01AM IT TOOK ME A WHILE, I HAD TO ASK THE QUESTION A COUPLE OF
9:33:06AM TIMES BECAUSE IT CAME UP IN THE BUDGET MEETING LAST MONTH.
9:33:09AM WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
9:33:11AM YOU KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS?
9:33:12AM NOTHING.
9:33:13AM IT'S THE CHOICE OF THE APPLICANT.
9:33:16AM SO WHY IS THE APPLICANT DRAGGING A MAGISTRATE IN AND PAYING
9:33:19AM A BUNCH OF MONEY MORE?
9:33:21AM HERE IS THE OTHER THING, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, YOU PROBABLY
9:33:24AM ASKED ELAINE, I THINK WE GO IN THE HOLE ON THOSE AS WELL,
9:33:28AM THE $2700 ONES.
9:33:30AM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT THE CITY TOLD
9:33:34AM ME I COULDN'T FILE A PETITION FOR REVIEW LAST WEEK OR TWO
9:33:38AM WEEKS AGO FOR THE LIVE LOCAL CRAP.
9:33:43AM BEFORE COUNCIL AND YOU GUYS SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR IT.
9:33:47AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT -- AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT
9:33:49AM -- THERE'S BEEN TWO PETITION FOR REVIEWS IN THE LAST 60 DAYS
9:33:53AM THAT MR. MICHELINI AND I HAVE STOOD UP THERE ON THE SAME
9:33:57AM SIDE OF THEM BECAUSE THESE PETITION FOR REVIEWS USE COMMON
9:34:00AM SENSE.
9:34:01AM AND WHAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS PROPOSED HERE IS
9:34:04AM EVERYTHING HAS TO BE DONE BY STATUTE.
9:34:06AM AND SOME OF THE COMMONSENSE STUFF, LIKE THE COUPLE THAT WERE
9:34:10AM ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY AND THEY FILED AN SU-1 BECAUSE THEY
9:34:15AM BOUGHT A HOUSE WITH ADU ON IT AND THEN THEY WERE TOLD, NO,
9:34:18AM YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
9:34:19AM YOU HAVE TO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY AND YOU GUYS GAVE THEM
9:34:22AM RELIEF.
9:34:22AM THE OTHER ONE WAS, THERE WAS A DUPLEX THAT HAD BEEN AROUND
9:34:27AM 34 YEARS.
9:34:28AM SOMETIMES IT REQUIRES YOU GUYS TO USE COMMON SENSE VERSUS
9:34:31AM THE EXACT LETTER OF THE LAW.
9:34:34AM IF YOU MAKE THE PROCESS OUT AND I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY HERE,
9:34:38AM THIS IS NOT OKAY.
9:34:39AM I THINK THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE NEED COMMON SENSE TO BE
9:34:44AM APPLIED, NOT NECESSARILY THE LETTER OF THE LAW.
9:34:47AM AND THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
9:34:50AM AND I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYBODY WOULD CHOOSE TO SPEND 27 OR 28
9:34:56AM MR. SHELBY WAS IN THE MEETING.
9:35:00AM JUSTIN VASKE WAS IN THE MEETING AND THEY COULDN'T TELL US
9:35:02AM WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS BETWEEN THE TWO.
9:35:04AM I ASKED ERIC COTTON WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS AND HE GAVE ME A
9:35:08AM LONG BLOWN-OUT ANSWER.
9:35:09AM I HAD TO ASK HIM PERSONALLY FACE TO FACE, WHAT IS THE
9:35:11AM DIFFERENCE, IT'S JUST WHAT THEY CHOOSE.
9:35:13AM WHY SOMEBODY WOULD CHOOSE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE
9:35:16AM TO COME TO YOU GUYS ANYWAY DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
9:35:19AM IF WE'RE GOING IN THE HOLE FOR IT.
9:35:22AM YOU KNOW I'M NOT FOR IT.
9:35:23AM SAVE OUR MONEY.
9:35:24AM OUR TAX DOLLARS NEED TO BE SPENT ON THINGS WISELY, NOT ON
9:35:28AM SUPPLEMENTING SERVICES.
9:35:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:35:30AM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:35:31AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:35:32AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEVE MICHELINI.
9:35:35AM STEPHANIE IS CORRECT THAT WE END UP GOING THROUGH THESE
9:35:39AM EXTRAORDINARY PROCESSES TO RESOLVE COMMONSENSE ISSUES.
9:35:43AM AND THE POOR MAN OUT THERE ON 31st STREET IT TOOK OVER A
9:35:48AM YEAR TO RESOLVE THAT.
9:35:49AM THREE DIFFERENT NOTICES FOR A DUPLEX THAT HAD BEEN BUILT IN
9:35:53AM 1972.
9:35:58AM COMPLIANCE IN 1956, AND YOU'VE CHANGED THE CODE MANY TIMES
9:36:04AM SINCE THEN.
9:36:04AM SO THE NONCONFORMITIES THAT YOU'VE CREATED CANNOT BE
9:36:09AM CORRECTED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET PAST A CERTAIN YEAR.
9:36:13AM AND THE RECORDS GOING PAST, I HAD A PETITION EARLIER TO
9:36:17AM CHANGE THAT TO 1987, WHICH WAS THE LAST MAJOR CHANGE YOU
9:36:20AM MADE.
9:36:21AM AND IT CREATED THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF NONCONFORMITIES
9:36:25AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
9:36:26AM YOU HAD A METHOD OF CORRECTING THAT BUT THEN YOU CHANGED IT.
9:36:29AM SO IT COST MORE MONEY.
9:36:31AM IT TAKES MORE TIME AND A LOT OF INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE BEING
9:36:35AM AFFECTED.
9:36:36AM I WOULD SAY DO NOT ELIMINATE THE OPTION OF GOING TO COUNCIL.
9:36:40AM YOU ARE THE PEOPLE'S REPRESENTATIVES.
9:36:42AM WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE APPLICANT'S SIDE AND ON THE
9:36:45AM DEVELOPMENT SIDE OR WHETHER YOU ARE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD
9:36:47AM SIDE, YOUR LAST APPEAL TO COME TO YOU TO RESOLVE AN ISSUE,
9:36:54AM UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO TO COURT.
9:36:57AM IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT.
9:36:59AM SO TO AUTOMATICALLY GO STRAIGHT TO COURT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE
9:37:04AM OPTION AND IT PRICES PEOPLE OUT SO THAT WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS
9:37:07AM TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE, THEY SIMPLY CAN'T DO IT.
9:37:10AM I KNOW IT SOUNDS -- MAYBE THINK I'M TALKING AGAINST MYSELF
9:37:20AM AND PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE, AS SHE POINTED OUT, COUPLE THAT
9:37:25AM OWNS THE LITTLE DUPLEX OVER IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, YOU
9:37:28AM SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT EXTRAORDINARY MEASURES TO
9:37:31AM RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES.
9:37:32AM THEY WERE FLYING FROM DELAWARE TO TAMPA FOR EVERY ONE OF
9:37:36AM THOSE HEARINGS.
9:37:38AM JUST COMPLETELY UNCALLED FOR.
9:37:39AM BUT ANYWAY, APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I THINK
9:37:44AM FAIRNESS SHOULD BE THE GUIDE HERE AND THE ABILITY TO ACCESS
9:37:47AM YOUR GOVERNMENT.
9:37:48AM THANK YOU.
9:37:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:37:50AM YES, MA'AM.
9:37:50AM GOOD MORNING.
9:37:52AM >> HI.
9:37:53AM MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
9:37:55AM I LIKE IT WHEN YOU ALL DECIDE THINGS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE
9:37:58AM THERE'S NOBODY IN THE CITY THAT UNDERSTANDS THE CITIZENS AND
9:38:02AM OUR CONCERNS BETTER THAN THE SEVEN OF YOU.
9:38:05AM YOU HAVE THE MOST ACCESS, THE MOST INTERACTION, THE MOST
9:38:10AM KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE YOU ARE INTERACTING WITH THE PEOPLE ALL
9:38:14AM THE TIME.
9:38:16AM EVERY DAY I KNOW YOU INTERACT WITH CITIZENS.
9:38:18AM YOU REALLY DO UNDERSTAND WHAT CITIZENS CARE ABOUT.
9:38:22AM YOU DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH ME, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
9:38:25AM I BELIEVE YOU REALLY GRASP WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE OF YOUR
9:38:27AM CONSTANT INTERACTION.
9:38:29AM YOU SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN OUT OF THE MIX.
9:38:32AM AS MUCH RESPECT AS I MIGHT HAVE FOR A HEARING OFFICER, THEY
9:38:35AM ARE -- SOMETIMES THEY ARE FROM OUT OF TOWN.
9:38:38AM THIS COULD BE THE FIRST THING THEY HAVE HEARD IN TAMPA.
9:38:41AM THEY ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH US.
9:38:42AM THE COST, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THE AMOUNT THAT THE PETITION
9:38:45AM PAYS COVERS IT.
9:38:46AM I THINK THE CITY PROBABLY EATS SOMETHING.
9:38:48AM THERE'S TRAVEL.
9:38:49AM THERE MIGHT BE LODGING.
9:38:50AM THERE MIGHT BE MEALS.
9:38:52AM MENTION THEIR TIME.
9:38:53AM READ BRIEFS.
9:38:54AM THEN RENDER DECISIONS.
9:38:55AM I'M SURE THE CITY IS INCURRING COSTS ON THIS.
9:38:58AM I AGREE WITH MARY LOU BAILEY.
9:39:02AM IN MY OPINION, HEARING OFFICERS SHOULD BE ELIMINATED.
9:39:06AM I'M GOING TO READ A LITTLE BIT OF HER LETTER BECAUSE SHE'S
9:39:08AM VERY ELOQUENT.
9:39:09AM SHE SAYS THINGS BETTER THAN ME.
9:39:11AM SHE SENT IT TO YOU ALL.
9:39:14AM SHE SAYS THE CITIZENS HAVE A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY OF
9:39:18AM PARTICIPATING AND THAT THE ALTERNATE AVENUE IS WITH THE CITY
9:39:24AM COUNCIL, BUT -- BUT YOUR DECISION MAKING IS RESTRICTED TO
9:39:28AM THE ORIGINAL RECORD.
9:39:29AM THANKFULLY THIS PATH IS NOT FOLLOWED VERY OFTEN.
9:39:32AM I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT IS HARDER FOR CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND
9:39:36AM AND EFFECTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN THE HEARING OFFICER AVENUE.
9:39:39AM I'VE DONE IT, AND I'M EXPERIENCED.
9:39:42AM I DID IT RECENTLY.
9:39:43AM IT'S HARD.
9:39:44AM I'M IN FAVOR OF ELIMINATING THE AVENUE OF APPEAL TO HEARING
9:39:47AM OFFICER.
9:39:47AM IT IS MUCH HARDER FOR CITIZENS TO ENGAGE EFFECTIVELY.
9:39:50AM I'M FURTHER IN FAVOR OF HAVING CITY COUNCIL REVIEW, DO A
9:39:53AM DE NOVO REVIEW, WHICH IS NOT LIMITED TO THE ORIGINAL RECORD.
9:39:58AM THIS ALLOWS THE FULL SET OF RELEVANT INFORMATION TO BE
9:40:01AM CONSIDERED WHICH LEADS TO MORE EFFECTIVE DECISION MAKING.
9:40:03AM I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.
9:40:04AM FOR PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND PARTICIPATE SOMETIMES IN THE
9:40:08AM ORIGINAL RECORD IS IMPOSSIBLE.
9:40:09AM BUT FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE LATER, IT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY,
9:40:14AM PLUS MORE INFORMATION CAN COME TO LIGHT.
9:40:18AM IF THE HEARING OFFICER IS TO REMAIN AN AVENUE, I WOULD NOT
9:40:23AM BE IN FAVOR OF HAVING IT NOT GO TO -- CIRCUIT COURT INSTEAD
9:40:31AM THE MATTER.
9:40:32AM THE CIRCUIT COURT PROCESS IS HARDER FOR CITIZENS TO
9:40:34AM UNDERSTAND AND EFFECTIVELY PARTICIPATE THAN A HEARING
9:40:38AM OFFICER.
9:40:38AM EVEN HARDER.
9:40:39AM CITIZENS WHO PARTICIPATE IN THESE PROCESSES DO SO AS
9:40:41AM VOLUNTEERS WORKING AROUND THEIR OWN WORK, FAMILY, AND
9:40:44AM COMMUNITY.
9:40:44AM OUR CITY IS BEST GOVERNED IF THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO MAKE
9:40:48AM THEIR PARTICIPATION CONVENIENT AND UNDERSTANDABLE AS WELL AS
9:40:50AM TO ALLOW THEIR FEEDBACK TO BE WHOLLY CONSIDERED.
9:40:53AM THANK YOU, MARY LOU BAILEY.
9:40:55AM PLEASE READ HER ENTIRE E-MAIL.
9:40:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND HURTAK.
9:40:58AM WAIT.
9:40:59AM YES, SIR.
9:40:59AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:41:00AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:41:01AM JOSEPH CITRO FOR THE RECORD, 33611.
9:41:04AM IN THIS ISSUE, YOU ARE THE TRANSPARENCY.
9:41:09AM MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA LOOK TO YOU TO FIND
9:41:11AM OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY.
9:41:13AM IT TAKES -- TO TAKE CITY COUNCIL OUT OF THIS LEAVES THEM
9:41:19AM BLINDED.
9:41:24AM IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER FROM DIFFERENT OPINIONS
9:41:26AM TO FIGHT FOR CITY COUNCIL TO STAY INVOLVED IN THIS, IT SHOWS
9:41:29AM YOU SOMETHING.
9:41:31AM CITY COUNCIL, I ASK YOU, DO NOT TAKE YOURSELVES OUT OF THIS
9:41:34AM PROCESS.
9:41:35AM THANK YOU.
9:41:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:41:37AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:41:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MARK THIS
9:41:42AM DAY.
9:41:43AM IT IS THE SECOND TIME SINCE I SERVED ON COUNCIL THAT
9:41:45AM STEPHANIE POYNOR AND STEVE MICHELINI HAVE APPEARED ON THE
9:41:49AM SAME SIDE OF THE ISSUE.
9:41:50AM I THINK SOMEBODY SHOULD BE BUYING SOMEBODY LUNCH.
9:41:53AM AGAIN, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO LEGAL STAFF.
9:42:02AM I KNOW THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS.
9:42:04AM I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE DONE A LOT OF THINGS.
9:42:06AM BUT I BELIEVE -- I SUSPECT THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH UNANIMOUS
9:42:11AM CONSENT AMONGST THE GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT DO BUSINESS IN
9:42:14AM COUNCIL AND THE MEMBERS THAT SIT UP ON THE DAIS THAT THIS IS
9:42:17AM NOT AN INITIATIVE THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON.
9:42:20AM ONCE AGAIN, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT A LOT
9:42:23AM OF WORK AND GONE THIS FAR, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY NOT
9:42:26AM SOMETHING THAT WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON.
9:42:31AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:42:36AM I'M GOING TO STICK WITH MY INITIAL MOTION AS THE MAKER OF
9:42:40AM THIS, AT THE REQUEST OF LEGAL.
9:42:42AM OF COURSE, MY FELLOW COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON WAS THE
9:42:46AM SECOND.
9:42:46AM WE BOTH AGREE TO STRIKE THIS FROM THE AGENDA.
9:42:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL SAY SOMETHING AFTER WE APPROVE THIS AND
9:42:53AM DO THE NEXT MOTION.
9:42:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN
9:42:56AM WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
9:42:58AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:42:59AM AYE.
9:43:00AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:43:01AM THAT IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:43:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO LOOK AT
9:43:07AM CHAPTER 27-61 RELATED TO PETITIONS FOR REVIEW AND ASK STAFF
9:43:11AM TO PUT TOGETHER LANGUAGE TO ELIMINATE THE AVENUE OF APPEAL
9:43:16AM TO A HEARING OFFICER AND SETTING CITY COUNCIL REVIEW TO BE
9:43:21AM DE NOVO REVIEW AND TO FIND OUT HOW MANY CASES THAT WE WOULD
9:43:30AM NORMALLY HAVE AROUND THIS.
9:43:34AM THAT'S THE MOTION.
9:43:34AM MY COMMENT IS, I BELIEVE WE'LL FIND MORE OF THE ISSUES THAT
9:43:39AM WE NEED TO LOOK AT WITH THIS REVIEW OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
9:43:42AM CODE WHEN WE START SEEING MORE OF THESE.
9:43:47AM THIS WILL ALLOW US TO REALLY HONE IN ON SOME OF THE AREAS
9:43:51AM WHERE WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MAKE CHANGES AS THE LEGISLATIVE
9:43:54AM BODY.
9:43:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
9:43:55AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:43:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO CLARIFY BEFORE I -- I WANT TO
9:44:00AM MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND.
9:44:01AM THIS IS NOT A DECISION POINT THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
9:44:03AM THIS IS AN INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, FOR US TO
9:44:05AM MAKE A DECISION.
9:44:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
9:44:07AM I'M ASKING FOR THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
9:44:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH THE DATA --
9:44:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT NOT JUST SUPPORTS IT BUT GIVES US
9:44:16AM BACKGROUND AND THEN MOVING FORWARD HOW THIS IS GOING TO
9:44:18AM WORK.
9:44:19AM I WANT THE LANGUAGE.
9:44:21AM THE PUBLIC HAS MADE IT CLEAR.
9:44:24AM WE HEARD VERY STRONGLY FROM BOTH SIDES, WHICH IS VERY
9:44:29AM UNUSUAL THEY DON'T WANT THIS.
9:44:31AM I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LANGUAGE TO CHANGE
9:44:33AM IT.
9:44:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE SECONDED.
9:44:40AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:44:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
9:44:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL --
9:44:56AM >> DANA CROSBY COLLIER, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
9:45:00AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO BRING FORTH LANGUAGE TO ELIMINATE
9:45:03AM THE HEARING OFFICER ALTOGETHER FROM 27-61, COULD I SUGGEST
9:45:08AM WE MAYBE FOLD IT INTO OUR JULY CYCLE?
9:45:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WOULD BE FABULOUS.
9:45:13AM >> I CAN WORK ON THAT LANGUAGE NOW AND WE CAN BRING IT WITH
9:45:16AM THE JULY CYCLE.
9:45:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:45:18AM THAT'S PERFECT.
9:45:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A DATE FOR THE JULY --
9:45:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT WOULD THE DATE FOR THE JULY CYCLE?
9:45:24AM THE 18th?
9:45:26AM >> I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHEN STAFF IS BRINGING BACK THE
9:45:29AM JULY CYCLE.
9:45:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S ALSO THE BUDGET.
9:45:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE JULY CYCLE, IF -- DEADLINE.
9:45:39AM >> THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS THAT COME FORWARD.
9:45:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UP UNTIL JULY AND THEN THEY PROCESS THOSE.
9:45:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE EARLIEST AVAILABLE DATE AFTER THE
9:45:49AM JULY CYCLE.
9:45:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AUGUST 1st.
9:45:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT IS THE WAY IT
9:45:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT THIS?
9:45:57AM I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK, IF YOU JUST
9:46:03AM REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE, I WILL MODIFY THE MOTION WITH A
9:46:07AM SPECIFIC DATE BY EITHER IF YOU GET IT THIS AFTERNOON, I'LL
9:46:12AM DO IT AT THE EVENING MEETING.
9:46:14AM IF NOT, THE JUNE 6th MEETING.
9:46:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:46:18AM HURTAK.
9:46:18AM WE HAVE A SECOND.
9:46:19AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:46:20AM AYE.
9:46:21AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:46:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COMING BACK WOULD BE A MOTION TO AMEND IT
9:46:25AM TO ADD THE DATE.
9:46:27AM IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO?
9:46:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE MOTION IS THIS AND THEN I WILL HAVE A
9:46:32AM SECOND MOTION THAT GOES ON TOP OF THIS TO ADD A SPECIFIC
9:46:35AM DATE.
9:46:36AM RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST WITH THE JULY REVIEW, WITH THE JULY
9:46:39AM CYCLE.
9:46:40AM AND THEN MY NEXT MOTION WILL BE TO CLARIFY WHEN THE JULY
9:46:43AM CYCLE IS.
9:46:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD, THANK YOU.
9:46:46AM >> I'LL GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
9:46:48AM THAT WILL SETTLE THE DISCUSSION FOR ITEM 4 TODAY.
9:46:54AM WE'LL HAVE THESE THREE ITEMS NEXT UP.
9:46:57AM WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 1, MR. LARRY WASHINGTON IS HERE.
9:47:02AM WE HAVE A MEMO AND PowerPoint.
9:47:04AM WHO WILL KICK IT OFF?
9:47:06AM MR. WASHINGTON?
9:47:07AM ALL RIGHT.
9:47:08AM COME ON UP.
9:47:14AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: THANK YOU.
9:47:16AM MAKE SURE THE PowerPoint IS UP.
9:47:18AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:47:25AM LARRY WASHINGTON, DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE AND ENVIRONMENTAL
9:47:27AM PROGRAM MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
9:47:29AM HERE WITH THE CFO, MR. DENNIS ROGERO, TO DISCUSS THE
9:47:33AM PROPOSED SOLID WASTE RATE ADJUSTMENTS.
9:47:35AM NOW, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE FINANCIAL PRESENTATION, I WANT
9:47:41AM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL READING FROM THE SAME SHEET OF
9:47:43AM MUSIC.
9:47:44AM AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE READING FROM THE SAME
9:47:52AM SHEET OF MUSIC BECAUSE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT AS A WHOLE IS
9:47:56AM A VERY DYNAMIC INDUSTRY.
9:48:00AM LIKE TO SAY AT THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT THERE'S NO SUCH
9:48:03AM THING AS A WAY.
9:48:05AM IT TAKES AN INTEGRATED SOLID WASTE SYSTEM TO MANAGE ALL OF
9:48:12AM TAMPA.
9:48:13AM THIS COMBINES THE ACTIVITIES NECESSARY FOR TO SAFELY
9:48:18AM COLLECT, TRANSPORT, TRANSFER AND DISPOSE OF WASTE IN A
9:48:21AM SUSTAINABLE MANNER WHILE PROTECTING HUMAN HEALTH AND THE
9:48:24AM ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THE MAYOR'S T-3
9:48:27AM INITIATIVE.
9:48:28AM WE HAVE A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING.
9:48:31AM WE HAVE ROUGHLY 300 EMPLOYEES, 300 TEAMMATES IN OUR
9:48:36AM DEPARTMENT.
9:48:36AM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE 150 COLLECTION VEHICLES.
9:48:40AM 60% OF WHICH ARE POWER BY CNG, COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS,
9:48:45AM VERSUS DIESEL.
9:48:47AM WE PROCESS 410,000 TONS -- THAT'S COLLECTIVELY -- PER YEAR
9:48:53AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:48:54AM MAJORITY OF WHICH IS PROCESSED AT THE WASTE TO ENERGY
9:48:56AM FACILITY.
9:48:56AM AROUND 300,000 TONS THERE.
9:48:58AM SOME IS LANDFILLED.
9:49:00AM SOME IS RECYCLED AROUND 20,000 TONS PER YEAR RECYCLED IN THE
9:49:06AM CITY OF TAMPA.
9:49:06AM WE COVER 85 SQUARE MILES.
9:49:13AM WE DO NOT COVER THE NEW TAMPA AREA.
9:49:15AM SORRY, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:49:16AM MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE THREE CORE DIVISIONS.
9:49:25AM WASTE TO ENERGY.
9:49:26AM WHAT WE LIKE TO SAY, AND I HAVE MY TEAM BEHIND ME AS WELL.
9:49:30AM ONE PAYS THE BILLS.
9:49:31AM ONE COLLECTS AND TRANSPORTS.
9:49:32AM THE OTHER ONE PROCESSES.
9:49:34AM LET'S SAY I HAVE A FEW DETAILED DESCRIPTIONS OF WHAT EACH
9:49:38AM DEPARTMENT DOES FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:49:40AM ADMIN, EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH.
9:49:43AM WE HAVE MULTIPLE POINTS OF ENGAGEMENT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO
9:49:46AM THE CITY OF TAMPA PERSONNEL AND SPEAKING TO THE YOUTH AS
9:49:50AM WELL.
9:49:50AM WE ALSO HAVE A TAMPA TRASH AND RECYCLING APP FOR THOSE WHO
9:49:54AM WANT TO HAVE REAL-TIME INFORMATION ON THEIR PHONES WHENEVER
9:49:57AM THEY NEED IT.
9:49:58AM IN ADDITION TO, OF COURSE, CITY OF TAMPA SOLID WASTE
9:50:01AM WEBSITE.
9:50:01AM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE A LOT OF WASTE REDUCTION
9:50:04AM INITIATIVES THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD MULTIPLE TIMES.
9:50:07AM WE HAVE CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM.
9:50:10AM CUSTOMER SERVICE IS PARAMOUNT FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA,
9:50:13AM ESPECIALLY OUR DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE ARE FORWARD FACING.
9:50:17AM MOVING OVER, WE PROVIDE COLLECTION SERVICES.
9:50:19AM GARBAGE COLLECTION TWICE A WEEK.
9:50:21AM RECYCLING ONCE AND, OF COURSE, YARD WASTE AS WELL.
9:50:25AM WE HAVE A SWEEP PROGRAM WHERE WE COLLECT BULKY WASTE.
9:50:29AM THAT'S CURBSIDE.
9:50:30AM WE HAVE TRANSFER STATIONS.
9:50:32AM WE HAVE TWO TRANSFER STATIONS.
9:50:35AM BRAND-NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY, A CASH FUNDED $35
9:50:37AM MILLION PROJECT THAT IS 40,000 SQUARE FEET.
9:50:41AM OUR ORIGINAL TRANSFER STATION, WHICH IS TRANSFER STATION A
9:50:46AM IS AROUND 20,000 SQUARE FEET AND THAT ALLOWS US THE ABILITY
9:50:50AM TO COLLECT ALL THE BULKY WASTE, THE TIRES, SO ON AND SO
9:50:54AM FORTH.
9:50:55AM COUCHES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE PROCESS IT THERE.
9:50:58AM MOVING OVER AND LASTLY WE HAVE OUR WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY
9:51:03AM WHERE WE PROCESS LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE AROUND 300,000 TONS
9:51:06AM PER YEAR.
9:51:07AM WITH THAT, WE GENERATE ELECTRICITY.
9:51:13AM GARBAGE AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING EVERYONE NEEDS AND THAT
9:51:18AM IS ELECTRICITY.
9:51:18AM WE ARE ABLE TO PRODUCE 150,000 MEGAWATTS PER YEAR.
9:51:26AM JUST FOR FURTHER UNDERSTANDING, THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD IS
9:51:30AM LISTED ABOVE AS FAR AS FLORIDA, AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD FOR
9:51:33AM FLORIDA USES 1 MEGAWATT PER MONTH.
9:51:36AM WE GENERATE A LOT OF ELECTRICITY.
9:51:39AM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE DIRECT BURNS THAT WE PROCESS AT
9:51:44AM THE WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY.
9:51:46AM TPD UTILIZES THIS QUITE FREQUENTLY WITH DRUG BUSTS.
9:51:51AM IN ADDITION, WE HAVE SPECIAL COLLECTION OR SPECIAL BURNS AS
9:51:55AM WELL.
9:51:55AM THE FOREIGN WASTE PRODUCED BY THE PORT AND AIRPORT, THAT
9:52:02AM COMES TO OUR FACILITY, TOO.
9:52:05AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE READING FROM THE SAME SHEET OF
9:52:08AM MUSIC BECAUSE WE ARE A VERY DYNAMIC DEPARTMENT IN GENERAL.
9:52:12AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW AND THE PUBLIC KNOWS
9:52:14AM THAT WE DO MORE THAN COLLECT WASTE.
9:52:18AM THIS IS A BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE CFO DENNIS
9:52:21AM ROGERO.
9:52:22AM WE'LL BE GOING BACK AND FORTH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION.
9:52:25AM I'LL PASS IT OVER TO DENNIS.
9:52:27AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:52:28AM WE'LL KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
9:52:37AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:52:38AM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
9:52:40AM AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A LOT GOING ON OUT THERE.
9:52:44AM AGAIN, AS THE DIRECTOR SAID, WE'LL BE SHARING INFORMATION
9:52:47AM REGARDING THEIR OPERATIONS AND FINANCES THROUGHOUT THIS
9:52:50AM PRESENTATION.
9:52:51AM FIRST, WE WOULD LIKE TO PAINT A PICTURE FOR YOU, SPEAKING OF
9:52:55AM THEIR FINANCES, ABOUT CURRENT AND SHORT-TERM FINANCIAL
9:52:59AM SITUATION.
9:52:59AM FIRST, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS SLIDE, THEIR FUND BALANCE
9:53:03AM CONTINUES TO GENERALLY DECLINE.
9:53:05AM NOW, WHY IS THAT?
9:53:06AM THERE ARE A FEW REASONS FOR THAT.
9:53:08AM FIRST, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS COSTS TYPICALLY JUST GO UP.
9:53:12AM IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, THEY HAVE GONE UP EXTENSIVELY.
9:53:16AM WE ALL KNOW THAT.
9:53:17AM WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THEY'LL GO DOWN.
9:53:20AM AT THE SAME TIME, THEIR REVENUES HAVE PLATEAUED.
9:53:23AM WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF THE WHYS AND WHEREFORES IN A MINUTE.
9:53:29AM THEY HAD TO KEEP DIPPING INTO THEIR FUND BALANCE AND INTO
9:53:32AM THEIR SAVINGS.
9:53:33AM THAT IS THE SLIDE YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, A GENERALLY
9:53:36AM DECLINING ONE.
9:53:37AM LITTLE UPTICK AFTER THINGS STARTED REOPENING POST PANDEMIC,
9:53:42AM BUT THEY ARE UNABLE TO MAINTAIN WHAT IS AN IDEAL 90-DAY
9:53:48AM RESERVE AND A RESERVE FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE,
9:53:51AM REFURBISHMENT, REPLACEMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
9:53:54AM THEY HAVE A NUMBER HAD OF DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS AS A
9:53:56AM BUSINESS FOR THEIR VARIOUS FUND BALANCES, BUT YOU CAN SEE
9:53:59AM THEY ALL CULMINATE IN NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY.
9:54:03AM I WOULD SUBMIT TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT WHEN YOU HAVE
9:54:06AM INCREASING COSTS AND YOUR REVENUE PRETTY MUCH FLATLINED,
9:54:10AM IT'S SIMPLY UNSUSTAINABLE NO MATTER HOW WELL THE BUSINESS
9:54:14AM ENTITY IS BEING RUN AND WE THINK IT'S BEEN RUN VERY WELL,
9:54:18AM NOR HOW WELL YOUR FINANCIAL PLANNING.
9:54:20AM AND WE THINK WE'VE FINANCIALLY PLANNED VERY WELL.
9:54:23AM I WILL REMIND COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, THIS IS A DEPARTMENT
9:54:27AM THAT RELATIVELY RECENTLY COULD AFFORD TO PAY $35 MILLION IN
9:54:31AM CASH FOR A NEW TRANSFER STATION IN LIEU OF FINANCING.
9:54:35AM SO WE'VE SEEN THIS COMING.
9:54:37AM I DON'T THINK IT'S A SURPRISE.
9:54:39AM WHAT WE'VE SAID IN THE PAST, WHAT I'VE SAID IN THE PAST IS
9:54:42AM IT'S NOT IF RATES ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE INCREASED, IT'S
9:54:46AM WHEN.
9:54:47AM WE THINK WHEN IS NOW.
9:54:49AM IN ESSENCE, WE HAVE A THREE-PRONGED PROGRAM AND PROBLEM.
9:55:04AM A LOT OF Ps IN THAT SENTENCE.
9:55:05AM I THINK WE'VE BROKEN IT OUT VERY WELL IN THIS SLIDE.
9:55:09AM FIRST OF ALL, IN THE DARK BLUE, THEY'VE GOT TO KEEP
9:55:12AM OPERATING.
9:55:13AM YOU SEE THAT OPERATING EXPENSES.
9:55:16AM REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY DO IN TERMS OF LARGE PROJECTS -- AND
9:55:19AM WE'VE GOT SOME VERY LARGE PROJECTS COMING -- REGARDLESS OF
9:55:22AM WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR MIDSIZE PROJECTS, THEY ARE A BIG
9:55:25AM BUSINESS, AS THE DIRECTOR JUST EXPLAINED.
9:55:28AM THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
9:55:29AM $130 MILLION BUSINESS WITH A $200 MILLION CIP.
9:55:32AM BUT THEY'VE GOT TO KEEP OPERATING REGARDLESS OF THOSE
9:55:36AM THINGS.
9:55:36AM AND YOU SEE FROM THIS GRAPH HERE THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
9:55:40AM BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
9:55:42AM IF YOU TAKE AWAY THEIR OPERATING CAPITAL IN THE LIGHT BLUE,
9:55:46AM IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE ANTICIPATED DEBT SERVICE FOR THE LARGE
9:55:49AM PROJECTS, REVENUE, PURPLE FLAT LINE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE
9:55:54AM TO KEEP THEM ABOVE THE DARK BLUE LINE OF JUST RUNNING A
9:55:58AM DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION.
9:56:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN,
9:56:06AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT, HE HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU.
9:56:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION FOR YOU.
9:56:11AM COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE DECLINE IN REVENUES FROM '23 TO '24?
9:56:19AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
9:56:21AM THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ABSENCE REDUCTION ELECTRICITY
9:56:26AM REVENUES BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY
9:56:29AM UNDERGOING REFURB.
9:56:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEXT QUESTION, WHY IS REVENUE WITH GROWTH
9:56:35AM -- EXPERIENCING GROWTH, WHY IS REVENUE FLAT LINED?
9:56:37AM BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING CUSTOMERS, BOTH COMMERCIAL AND
9:56:42AM RESIDENTIAL.
9:56:42AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE ARE ADDING CUSTOMERS, BUT WHEN YOUR
9:56:48AM RATES -- AND, OF COURSE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN OUR
9:56:51AM PRESENTATION.
9:56:51AM I'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL IN A MOMENT.
9:56:54AM RESIDENTIAL RATES, FOR INSTANCE, HAVEN'T BEEN INCREASED IN
9:56:57AM ABOUT A DECADE.
9:56:58AM I THINK YOUR POINT IS DESPITE THAT, WITH THE GROWTH, YOU
9:57:01AM WOULD THINK REVENUES WOULD INCREASE SOMEWHAT, AND THEY
9:57:04AM SIMPLY HAVEN'T.
9:57:05AM PERHAPS THE DEPARTMENT CAN SPEAK CLOSER TO THAT.
9:57:08AM IT'S NOT A BAD QUESTION, BUT THE PLATEAUING OF THE RATES AND
9:57:13AM THAT'S NOT THE ONLY RATES --
9:57:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND THAT THE RATES ARE PLATEAUED.
9:57:18AM I MEAN, JUST INTUITIVELY THAT WE CONTINUE TO BUILD HOUSING
9:57:22AM AND BUILD UNITS, SO WE'RE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF
9:57:26AM RESIDENTS, YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD -- WHILE IT
9:57:29AM WOULD INCREASE COSTS AS WELL BUT IT WOULD INCREASE REVENUE
9:57:32AM STREAM.
9:57:33AM IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A PROJECTION AS A FLAT LINE REVENUE
9:57:37AM STREAM.
9:57:37AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: PRETTY FLAT LINED.
9:57:40AM WHAT I SUSPECT IS THE GROWTH IS SIMPLY NOT PROVIDING ENOUGH
9:57:44AM ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR IT TO BE RECOGNIZED ON A GRAPH OF
9:57:47AM THIS SCALE.
9:57:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
9:57:50AM THAT WOULD EXPLAIN IT.
9:57:51AM THANK YOU.
9:57:53AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: WE DID ACQUIRE THE WASTE TO ENERGY
9:57:56AM FACILITY AS WELL SO WE HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE ASSOCIATED WITH
9:57:59AM THAT.
9:58:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET THE EXPENSE.
9:58:03AM I WAS CURIOUS WHAT IS YOUR REVENUE GROWTH.
9:58:06AM I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OF GROWTH, EXPENSES GO UP TOO.
9:58:09AM IN THE PICTOGRAM, IT SHOWS LIKE NO GROWTH WHICH WOULD
9:58:15AM INDICATE INTO ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS OR BUSINESSES ADDED TO
9:58:19AM THE REVENUE STREAM.
9:58:20AM THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
9:58:21AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE'LL RUN THAT DOWN.
9:58:23AM IT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
9:58:25AM WHAT I SUSPECT IS IT'S A MATTER OF SCALE.
9:58:29AM MOVING FROM OPERATING AND, OF COURSE, I'VE REFERENCED THE
9:58:31AM ANTICIPATED DEBT SERVICE.
9:58:33AM THAT'S ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'LL BE HAVING LATER ON IN
9:58:36AM THIS PRESENTATION.
9:58:36AM YOU SEE, OF COURSE, THE REVENUES AREN'T NEARLY ENOUGH.
9:58:39AM IF THE REVENUES CAN'T ALLOW THE BUSINESS TO OPERATE, THEY
9:58:42AM ARE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO PAY FOR ANY ANTICIPATED DEBT
9:58:45AM SERVICE.
9:58:46AM AGAIN YOU SEE IN THE LIGHT BLUE, THE OPERATING CAPITAL.
9:58:49AM SOLID WASTE HAS OTHER THINGS THEY NEED TO DO.
9:58:51AM THE DOTTED LINE YOU SEE IS OUR PROJECTIONS IF COUNCIL
9:58:56AM APPROVES THESE RATE INCREASES.
9:58:57AM YOU SEE THAT WILL BRING US NOT ONLY ABOVE THE EXPENDITURE
9:59:02AM REQUIREMENT BUT GET US BACK INTO THOSE LEVELS OF 90-DAY
9:59:07AM RESERVES, RENOVATION AND REPAIR RESERVES, ET CETERA, AND
9:59:11AM RESERVES THAT WE'LL NEED FOR THE DEBT ISSUANCE.
9:59:15AM OPERATING COST, AGAIN, THEY CONTINUE TO GO UP.
9:59:26AM THERE IS A SPIKE IN 2024 YOU SEE, AND THAT IS ASSOCIATED
9:59:29AM WITH THAT WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY.
9:59:32AM THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS IT'S PRETTY MUCH CONFINED TO
9:59:36AM 2024.
9:59:37AM THE BAD THING ABOUT IT, IT'S A LOT.
9:59:40AM AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN THEIR OPERATING COST SPIKE.
9:59:44AM BUT IT'S WORTH REITERATING, COSTS ARE NOT ANTICIPATED TO GO
9:59:48AM DOWN.
9:59:49AM ARE WE EXPERIENCING SOME INFLATION RELIEF?
9:59:52AM I THINK WE ARE LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY, BUT NOBODY THAT I
9:59:56AM KNOW ANTICIPATES COSTS ARE EVER GOING TO GO DOWN.
10:00:00AM IT'S JUST HOW MUCH ARE THEY GOING TO GO UP IN THE FUTURE?
10:00:03AM AND THE TIPPING FEES, AGAIN, AN EXAMPLE OF A REVENUE STREAM
10:00:13AM THAT HAS PLATEAUED.
10:00:15AM FOR A WHILE YOU SEE WE WERE ACTUALLY ABOVE AND WE'VE DONE A
10:00:18AM COMPARISON HERE FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:00:19AM YOU SEE FOR A WHILE WE WERE ABOVE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND
10:00:22AM THAT WAS HELPING, BUT THOSE DAYS ARE LONG SINCE OVER, AS YOU
10:00:27AM CAN SEE IN 2022, WE'RE NOW WELL BELOW, I WOULD SUBMIT TO
10:00:33AM YOU, AND WE FEEL THE NECESSITY TO INCREASE THOSE TIPPING
10:00:37AM FEES.
10:00:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION QUESTION FOR THE
10:00:40AM PUBLIC.
10:00:41AM WHAT IS THE TIPPING FEE?
10:00:46AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: FOR OUR TRANSFER STATION USERS, A
10:00:48AM TIPPING FEE IS THE COST PER TON TO UTILIZE OUR FACILITY.
10:00:56AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT
10:00:58AM THOSE AND THE RECOMMENDED RATES IN JUST A MOMENT.
10:01:00AM I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE DIRECTOR, SIR.
10:01:08AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: NOW THE NEXT THREE SLIDES SPECIFICALLY
10:01:14AM WILL BE EXAMPLES OF THE INCREASE IN COST FOR THE SOLID WASTE
10:01:17AM DEPARTMENT.
10:01:17AM HERE WE HAVE THE MOST COMMON VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE.
10:01:21AM THIS IS OUR COLLECTION VEHICLE, OUR CNG AUTOMATED COLLECTION
10:01:26AM VEHICLE THAT YOU'LL SEE ON ROUTES COLLECTING EITHER
10:01:29AM RECYCLING OR GARBAGE.
10:01:30AM BACK IN 2019, ONE OF THE VEHICLES COST THE SOLID WASTE
10:01:34AM DEPARTMENT $360,000.
10:01:36AM NOW, TODAY, IT COSTS THE DEPARTMENT $489,000 FOR ONE OF
10:01:43AM THESE VEHICLES.
10:01:44AM THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW MUCH COSTS HAVE INCREASED OVER
10:01:48AM THE FEW YEARS.
10:01:49AM LIKE I SAID BEFORE, 60% OF OUR FLEET IS CNG.
10:01:55AM THE AVERAGE SOLID WASTE VEHICLE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:01:59AM THEY ARE AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS OR YOUNGER TO ENSURE THAT WE
10:02:03AM DON'T HAVE OIL SPILLS OR MALFUNCTIONS DOWN ROUTES -- WELL,
10:02:11AM MOVE INTO DELAYS IN SERVICE.
10:02:14AM DOWNED ROUTE OR A TRUCK THAT IS NOT USABLE WILL HAVE SEVERE
10:02:20AM DELAYS.
10:02:20AM ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE IS THE COST OF OUR 95-GALLON
10:02:26AM CONTAINER.
10:02:27AM SO BACK IN 2019, THESE CONTAINERS COST $44.50.
10:02:31AM NOW THESE CONTAINERS COST $54.68.
10:02:35AM WE ARE PROJECTED TO HAVE ANOTHER INCREASE OF 5 TO 10 DOLLARS
10:02:40AM AS WELL AND THAT IS UP FOR RENEWAL THIS YEAR.
10:02:45AM WE HAVE OVER 100,000 RESIDENTIAL GARBAGE CARTS ALL OVER THE
10:02:48AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:02:49AM WE HAVE OVER 82ISH THOUSAND CUSTOMERS AS FAR AS RESIDENTIAL.
10:02:54AM YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SIR.
10:02:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:02:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
10:02:59AM PRESENTATION.
10:03:00AM I'M JUST HERE THINKING BETWEEN MYSELF, THE PROBLEM THAT WE
10:03:04AM CREATED FOR OURSELVES IS THAT WE WAIT SO LONG TO MAKE THE
10:03:09AM CHANGE.
10:03:10AM WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US TODAY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT STARTED
10:03:12AM LAST NIGHT.
10:03:13AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT STARTED THE DAY WE GAVE YOU THE UP
10:03:17AM CHANGE, THAT DAY FROM NOW IT'S BEEN CLIMBING ALL ASPECTS,
10:03:21AM FROM INSURANCE, FROM PERSONNEL, FROM PAYMENT, FROM
10:03:24AM RETIREMENT, FROM THE COST OF THE CONTAINER, FROM THE COST OF
10:03:28AM TRANSPORTATION OF YOUR FUEL FROM WHEREVER YOU ARE GOING,
10:03:34AM REFUSE TO ENERGY.
10:03:35AM WE NEVER MADE A CHANGE.
10:03:37AM THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.
10:03:38AM IN OTHER WORDS, WE TALK ABOUT RUNNING CITY LIKE A BUSINESS
10:03:42AM AND WE TRY, BUT WE ACTUALLY DON'T DO IT.
10:03:45AM BECAUSE IF WE DID, YOU WOULD HAVE EVERY YEAR A MINIMUM
10:03:49AM INCREASE, SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A BIG INCREASE AT THE
10:03:53AM END.
10:03:53AM AND THAT'S BUSINESS-WISE.
10:03:55AM SO WE DON'T DO IT FOR WHATEVER REASON TO SOME DEGREE.
10:03:59AM YOU'RE ONE OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, LIKE THE OTHER THREE,
10:04:01AM AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE WHERE WE ARE AT.
10:04:04AM IN FACT, THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS DOING SOMETHING.
10:04:07AM REFUSE TO ENERGY DOING SOMETHING AND THEY ARE ALL OVER A
10:04:09AM HUNDRED MILLION.
10:04:10AM SO WE HAVE TO -- IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY, YOU CAN'T BORROW
10:04:15AM MONEY.
10:04:15AM BECAUSE IF YOU DO, YOU'RE ONLY MAKING SOMETHING LESS THAN
10:04:18AM WHAT YOU WANT TO BREAK EVEN.
10:04:20AM THAT'S MY MOTTO FOR MYSELF.
10:04:24AM HATE TO GO BACK TO WHAT MY FATHER TOLD ME, IF YOU CAN'T PAY
10:04:27AM FOR SOMETHING IN 30 DAYS, DON'T BUY IT.
10:04:30AM THEREFORE I NEVER BOUGHT A NEW CAR.
10:04:32AM NOW THE CAR DEALERS HATE ME.
10:04:35AM BUT I HOPE YOU DO BUY A NEW CAR SO THEY LIKE ME.
10:04:38AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IT'S GOT TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO
10:04:42AM BUSINESS IF YOU REALLY WANT TO COMPETE.
10:04:46AM I CAN APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING.
10:04:48AM I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF CHANGES AND COSTS IN MOVING AND
10:04:51AM RELOCATION AND ALL THAT GREAT STUFF THAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT
10:04:55AM IT'S GOT TO COME TO SOMETHING THAT YOU RAISE THE RATE.
10:04:59AM I THINK '04 AND '05 IS THE SAME RATE.
10:05:03AM 2024 AND '25?
10:05:06AM WHEN DOES YOUR RATE INCREASE COME ON THIS IF IT PASSES?
10:05:10AM >> OCTOBER 1.
10:05:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OF THIS YEAR.
10:05:12AM THOSE TWO YEARS OR ONE YEAR YOU ALREADY HAVE THROUGH IT, SO
10:05:15AM YOU'RE GOING TO SWALLOW A LOSS, UNLESS YOU'RE ANTICIPATING
10:05:19AM THAT IN THE INCREASE YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
10:05:22AM IN '05, YOU HAVE THAT ONE COVERED.
10:05:24AM BUT THEN EVEN IN '06 AND '07, YOUR RATES GO UP A LOT MORE
10:05:30AM DEPENDING ON WHO YOU ARE, WHAT KIND OF CAPABILITY YOU'RE
10:05:34AM PICKING UP.
10:05:36AM HISTORY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS DEPARTMENT.
10:05:37AM USED TO BE NOT JUST ONE DRIVER.
10:05:42AM DRIVER, TWO THROWERS AND THE CATCHER.
10:05:44AM THEY WOULD GO THROUGH ALLEYS.
10:05:46AM THAT'S HOW IT WAS.
10:05:47AM MORE BACK INJURIES THAN THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS HAD IN THE
10:05:49AM WHOLE NFL BECAUSE IT WAS HARD WORK.
10:05:53AM THIS IS STILL HARD WORK BUT MODERNIZED TO TODAY'S SOCIETY
10:05:59AM NEED AND SAFETY ENVIRONMENT.
10:06:00AM IN THE OLD DAYS, DUMP IT IN THE BACK, SOMEBODY PICKED IT UP.
10:06:04AM AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE CANS, THE 95-GALLON CANS THAT REALLY
10:06:08AM DOES HELP THE ENVIRONMENT AND SPREADING OF DISEASE AND SO
10:06:11AM FORTH AND SO ON.
10:06:12AM WE MADE SOME STRIDES AND YOU'VE DONE WELL.
10:06:15AM NOW WE'RE FACED WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GOT TO GO ON FROM NOW
10:06:20AM THROUGH 2029 I GUESS.
10:06:23AM AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CHANGE MORE THAN
10:06:25AM LIKELY.
10:06:25AM THAT'S HOW LIFE IS.
10:06:27AM WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING THAT CHANGE.
10:06:29AM THEREFORE WHEN WE GET THERE, WE WILL BE SHORT AGAIN.
10:06:34AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK YOUR OBSERVATIONS ARE DEAD ON IN
10:06:37AM TERMS OF A RETROSPECTIVE.
10:06:40AM I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
10:06:41AM WE HAVE ACCOUNTED, YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT, IN THE PAST, THE
10:06:45AM REVENUE STAGNATION WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ESCALATION BUILT
10:06:48AM INTO THE PLAN.
10:06:49AM AGAIN, RESIDENTIAL RATES FOR SOLID WASTE, HAVEN'T SEEN AN
10:06:51AM INCREASE IN A DECADE.
10:06:52AM THE GOOD NEWS, AND YOU MENTIONED IT, SIR, AS PART OF THE
10:06:56AM PIPES PROGRAM, THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FEES HAVE THAT
10:07:01AM ESCALATION.
10:07:02AM WE HAVE BUILT INTO THIS RATE STUDY AFTER 2029 AN INDEXED
10:07:07AM INCREASE THAT KEEPS PACE WITH INFLATION.
10:07:09AM SO FOR WHATEVER REASON, THOSE INDEXES WEREN'T BUILT INTO THE
10:07:14AM PAST.
10:07:15AM AND YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT.
10:07:16AM THE GOOD NEWS IS, I THINK WE'VE SEEN AS YOU SAID AND I'VE
10:07:22AM SAID UNSUSTAINABLE.
10:07:26AM WE BUILT THOSE INCREASES INTO THE FUTURE.
10:07:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME GO EVEN FURTHER.
10:07:32AM TEN YEARS FROM NOW.
10:07:35AM IN TEN YEARS OR NINE YEARS THE CITY WILL BE IN A BETTER
10:07:41AM POSITION FINANCIALLY BECAUSE ONE OF THE CRAs IS GONE AND
10:07:44AM IT WILL BE BUILT OUT, I WOULD IMAGINE.
10:07:46AM THEN THE TAXES OFF THAT BASE, THE HIGH PART OF IT THAT WE'RE
10:07:49AM NOT GETTING WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.
10:07:52AM SO WHOEVER IS HERE THEY MIGHT NOT LIKE WHAT I'M GOING TO
10:07:56AM SAY.
10:07:56AM FROM THAT DAY ON, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE A REBATE BACK
10:08:00AM TO THE PUBLIC FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD TO DO FOR
10:08:03AM THAT TIME TO BRING IT LEVEL TO NEW DEVELOPMENT BUILT THE
10:08:07AM CITY THAT WE BUILT.
10:08:08AM SO THERE'S ALWAYS, IF WE LOOK AT IT AND FORECAST TEN YEARS,
10:08:14AM WHAT'S COMING IN TEN YEARS, WHAT REVENUES ARE WE GOING TO
10:08:17AM HAVE.
10:08:17AM IN FACT, I STILL SAY I PREDICT -- NEVER TALK TO ANYBODY IN
10:08:21AM THE TAX ASSESSORS OFFICE, ANOTHER 10 OR 12 PERCENT INCREASE
10:08:26AM IN TAXES BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING GOING UP, THE VOLUME OF IT
10:08:30AM IS THERE.
10:08:32AM I'M ONLY GUESSING.
10:08:34AM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THINKING TEN YEARS FROM
10:08:37AM NOW, WHEN THOSE CRAs ARE GONE, ONE ANYWAY, 15 ON ANOTHER
10:08:41AM ONE, THAT THOSE FUNDS COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC IN A SYSTEM
10:08:45AM WHERE THEY GET PAID BACK FOR THE INCREASES WE GAVE OUT.
10:08:48AM THE CITY ALWAYS WINS, THE TAXPAYERS WIN, BECAUSE AT THAT
10:08:53AM TIME, THAT WOULD BE BUILD-OUT THAT WAS NOTHING THERE 15
10:08:57AM YEARS AGO, LET'S FACE IT.
10:09:00AM VERY LITTLE INCOME.
10:09:01AM I CAN GET YOU THE NUMBERS IF YOU WANT FROM THAT AVENUE OF
10:09:03AM WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE AT NOW.
10:09:05AM THERE IS SOMETHING THERE IN THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
10:09:08AM DOLLARS, MAYBE IN THE BILLIONS.
10:09:10AM ALL THE THINGS COME BACK IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN YOUR PLACE,
10:09:13AM OUR PLACE, HIS PLACE, THE POSITION WHERE YOU HAVE THE HEART
10:09:17AM TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU SUFFERED, WENT THROUGH IT, MADE
10:09:20AM THE CITY WHAT IT IS, WE'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING BACK.
10:09:23AM IF YOU DO THAT THEN I'M ALL FOR THIS.
10:09:25AM IF NOT, I'M NOT.
10:09:28AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
10:09:29AM THANK YOU.
10:09:29AM IF I CAN RESPOND TO THAT, AGAIN, I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL
10:09:33AM TAKEN.
10:09:33AM DIRECTOR WASHINGTON, DYNAMIC.
10:09:37AM BIG CITY, WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE IN A DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT.
10:09:40AM THE TWO KEY-STONES OF THAT, I THINK, ARE GOOD FORESIGHT,
10:09:46AM GOOD PLANNING.
10:09:47AM I THINK THIS RATE STRUCTURE DOES THAT BUT ALSO THE
10:09:51AM FLEXIBILITY TO CHANGE.
10:09:51AM GOING FORWARD A DECADE FROM NOW, AS LONG AS OUR PROJECTIONS
10:09:55AM KEEP US WITHIN OUR DEBT COVENANTS, RESERVE REQUIREMENTS,
10:10:00AM THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE
10:10:03AM FLEXIBILITY TO ADJUST RATES.
10:10:04AM AGAIN, WHO KNOWS TEN YEARS FROM NOW, BUT THE KEY IS I THINK
10:10:07AM GOOD PLANNING.
10:10:08AM WE PLANNED FOR A PROGRESSION AND THE FLEXIBILITY TO CHANGE
10:10:11AM IF WE HAVE TO.
10:10:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:10:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:10:18AM I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CART GOING BACK
10:10:21AM TO THE SLIDES.
10:10:21AM I NOTICED THE NEXT SLIDE IS TALKING ABOUT CONTAINERS.
10:10:24AM WHAT IS THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT THE AVERAGE LIFE SPAN FOR
10:10:33AM THESE?
10:10:34AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: FOR RESIDENTIAL GARBAGE CANS.
10:10:36AM IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CUSTOMER USES THEM FOR.
10:10:39AM WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY PUT THINGS IN THEM THAT THEY
10:10:43AM SHOULDN'T.
10:10:44AM THERE ARE OFTEN FIRES OR INDIVIDUALS MAY TAKE OTHER
10:10:48AM NEIGHBORS' CARTS FROM TIME TO TIME.
10:10:49AM WE HAVE SEEN THAT, AND WE RECEIVED THE CALLS.
10:10:52AM IF YOU ARE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT FOLLOWS ALL THE SOLID WASTE
10:10:56AM GUIDANCE, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THEIR CARTS FROM
10:10:59AM 2005.
10:11:00AM AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE HAD THEIR
10:11:03AM CARTS FOR THREE TO FOUR YEARS.
10:11:05AM IT REALLY VARIES.
10:11:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE REASON I'M ASKING ABOUT THAT IS BECAUSE
10:11:08AM FROM THIS IT LOOKS LIKE WE PAY FOR THE CARTS.
10:11:13AM NOW, MY NEIGHBOR WHO PUT A FIREWORK IN THEIR BRAND-NEW CART
10:11:18AM AND HAS A GIANT HOLE IN THE SIDE NOW, WE DON'T PAY TO
10:11:25AM REPLACE THAT KIND OF DAMAGE, CORRECT?
10:11:27AM THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE CUSTOMER WOULD HAVE TO PAY
10:11:29AM FOR.
10:11:30AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: YES.
10:11:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
10:11:32AM THAT WAS KIND OF MY QUESTION, YES, IF YOU USE IT THE WAY YOU
10:11:35AM ARE SUPPOSED TO, WE PAY FOR IT, BUT WE DON'T PAY FOR PEOPLE
10:11:38AM THAT USE THEIR CARTS INCORRECTLY AND YOU ALL HAVE A PRETTY
10:11:42AM GOOD FEELING OF WHO CAN DO WHAT.
10:11:45AM I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE DON'T JUST REPLACE
10:11:48AM ANYTHING.
10:11:49AM I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT.
10:11:52AM THEY ARE TECHNICALLY PAYING FOR IT IN THEIR FEES BUT REALLY
10:11:55AM WE PAY FOR REPLACING THEM WHEN THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED AS
10:11:59AM LONG AS THEY ARE JUST NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR.
10:12:03AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: YES, MA'AM.
10:12:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M DOING EXACTLY WHAT I HATE BECAUSE WE
10:12:07AM HAVEN'T FINISHED WITH THE PRESENTATION BUT I FEEL LIKE I
10:12:09AM HAVE TO JUMP IN HERE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I'M BACK HERE ON
10:12:12AM THE SOLID WASTE FINANCIAL PICTURE WITH REVENUE, PROPOSED
10:12:15AM RATES FAR EXCEEDING THE OPERATING CAPITAL AND DEBT SERVICES
10:12:21AM NEEDS AND REQUIREMENTS.
10:12:24AM NOT ON OUR PRINTOUT, SLIDE NUMBER FOUR.
10:12:27AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SLIDE FOUR, SIR.
10:12:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH.
10:12:30AM ONE MORE.
10:12:37AM THERE WE GO.
10:12:38AM EXPLAIN TO ME WHY YOU WOULD COME BEFORE US AND ASK FOR
10:12:43AM REVENUE THAT WOULD EXCEED YOUR NEEDS.
10:12:51AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MISREPRESENTATION.
10:12:53AM I WOULD FRAME IT, OUR REVENUES EXCEED OUR EXPENSES, BUT WE
10:12:56AM HAVE THOSE FUND BALANCE AND RESERVE REQUIREMENTS.
10:12:59AM IT MAY BE AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE SLIDE TO PUT THOSE IN THERE.
10:13:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO BUILD THE FUND BALANCE AND RESERVES.
10:13:05AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
10:13:06AM WE ARE SOMEWHAT MAKING UP FOR LOSS.
10:13:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN YOU COME BACK BEFORE US, WOULD YOU
10:13:12AM HAVE A PROPOSAL, THE IMPACT THAT IT WOULD HAVE?
10:13:15AM BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN FEES OVER
10:13:18AM THE PERIOD OF TIME, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD AMBITIOUS REQUEST FOR
10:13:24AM ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
10:13:25AM LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED RATES ON SLIDE 12, WILL YOU PRESENT
10:13:33AM OPTIONS FOR A LESSER AMOUNT?
10:13:36AM TO GIVE US OPTIONS ON FUND BALANCES AND REALITY.
10:13:43AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: LET ME WRITE THAT DOWN.
10:13:45AM WE CAN, SIR.
10:13:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN OTHER WORDS, IF AT THIS RATE THIS WOULD
10:13:48AM GIVE US RESERVES AND FUND BALANCES AT THIS RATE, RESERVES
10:13:52AM AND FUND BALANCES, X THIS EXPECTED OPERATING REVENUE.
10:13:55AM WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS, AGAIN, ON SLIDE 12 -- I APOLOGIZE,
10:14:02AM YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO IT.
10:14:04AM WE'LL HOLD OFF UNTIL YOU GET THERE.
10:14:07AM SORRY.
10:14:07AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WILL GIVE YOU A KIND OF TEASER FOR WHAT'S
10:14:11AM COMING, THOUGH.
10:14:12AM WE CAN BRING THOSE TO YOU.
10:14:14AM THERE ARE VARIOUS CRITERIA.
10:14:15AM AGAIN, WE INTEND TO ISSUE DEBT FOR THESE MAJOR PROJECTS, THE
10:14:22AM WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY AND THE SOLID WASTE COMPLEX.
10:14:24AM AMONG THE VARIOUS CRITERIA FOR BUILDING WHAT WE THINK WILL
10:14:29AM BE AN ATTRACTIVE PACKAGE FOR THE BOND MARKET ARE THOSE
10:14:33AM DIFFERENT LEVELS OF DEBT SERVICE COVERAGES, RESERVES AND
10:14:36AM THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:14:37AM THE OVERALL GOAL, OF COURSE, IS TO GET THE BEST RATING WE
10:14:40AM CAN BECAUSE THAT WILL SAVE US MONEY IN THE LONG TERM.
10:14:43AM WE CAN BRING YOU THOSE AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE
10:14:46AM SUBDIVISIONS.
10:14:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE NOT JUST GOOD FOR THE
10:14:50AM DECISION MAKERS UP HERE BUT ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC TO
10:14:52AM UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING, ESPECIALLY IF IT BRINGS DOWN
10:14:55AM OUR INTEREST RATE ON THE DEBT ISSUANCE, IF WE HAVE CERTAIN
10:14:58AM LEVELS OF RESERVE.
10:14:59AM ALSO, SPECIFIC ON THE DEBT SERVICES, LIKE YOU KEEP SAYING
10:15:04AM WASTE-TO-ENERGY PLANT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE WASTE TO
10:15:08AM ENERGY PLANT?
10:15:08AM ARE WE BUILDING CAPACITY?
10:15:10AM VERY GOOD.
10:15:12AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU WANT US TO ANSWER THAT NOW?
10:15:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S COMING IN THE PRESENTATION.
10:15:16AM THAT'S WHY I APOLOGIZED RIGHT IN ADVANCE FOR JUMPING IN.
10:15:21AM SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
10:15:23AM WHY DON'T I JUST JOIN THE TORNADO.
10:15:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE BACK TO SLIDE NUMBER 9 IS WHERE WE
10:15:29AM LEFT OFF.
10:15:38AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: THIS IS ONE OF OUR COMMON CONTAINERS.
10:15:41AM FRONT-END LOAD CONTAINER.
10:15:46AM THE COST WAS $795 BACK IN 2019.
10:15:51AM NOW WE HAD A 98% INCREASE.
10:15:54AM THEY ARE $1500 FOR ONE OF OUR FRONT-END LOAD CONTAINERS.
10:15:58AM NOW, ROUGHLY AS FAR AS FRONT-LOAD SERVICE, ROUGHLY 6,000
10:16:03AM CONTAINERS ALL OVER THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:16:05AM WE WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS PICTURE TO SHOW YOU HOW THE PRICE
10:16:08AM ESCALATION HAS AFFECTED THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT.
10:16:10AM ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO FRONT LOAD CONTAINERS.
10:16:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
10:16:16AM IT'S RIDICULOUS THE PRICING RATES.
10:16:20AM WE'RE IN THE WRONG BUSINESS.
10:16:22AM CRAZY.
10:16:22AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: WE DO WHAT WE CAN.
10:16:23AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A LITTLE
10:16:26AM MARK AT THE FOUR FIVE INCHES FROM THE BOTTOM.
10:16:29AM WE REPLACE THE BOTTOMS OF THE CONTAINER.
10:16:31AM WE HAVE A WELDING SHOP HERE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:16:34AM WE DO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
10:16:37AM IF YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT THAT PUTS A LOT OF WET WASTE, THEY
10:16:41AM MAY GO THROUGH THEIR CONTAINER IN THREE TO FIVE YEARS, BUT
10:16:45AM IF YOU HAVE A BOOKSTORE, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR CONTAINER --
10:16:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOREVER.
10:16:52AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: EXACTLY.
10:16:52AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:16:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE BOTTOM OF THESE CONTAINERS HAVE
10:16:57AM HOLES WHERE THE WATER WOULD DRAIN.
10:17:00AM IT DOESN'T FILL UP AFTER A RAINSTORM AND RUST AND ROT AWAY,
10:17:03AM CORRECT?
10:17:05AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: THERE ARE LITTLE HOLES BUT IT DOES FILL
10:17:07AM UP.
10:17:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FLUID TO
10:17:09AM DRAIN.
10:17:10AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: IT IS.
10:17:11AM A LITTLE BIT.
10:17:12AM NOT A LOT OF FLUID DRAINING OUT OF IT.
10:17:14AM FIRES ARE ANOTHER CHALLENGE WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS.
10:17:22AM THANK YOU, I'LL PASS IT BACK OVER TO THE CFO.
10:17:28AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: HERE WE'VE BROKEN IT OUT A LITTLE BIT IN
10:17:32AM DETAIL CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDING REQUIREMENTS.
10:17:34AM MOSTLY TO ILLUSTRATE, YOU'RE SEEING A SPIKE IN THE CURRENT
10:17:38AM YEAR.
10:17:38AM AGAIN, THE WASTE TO ENERGY RETROFIT.
10:17:42AM IN THE LIGHT BLUE THERE, THAT IS THE SOLID WASTE RELOCATION
10:17:46AM COMPLEX PROJECT.
10:17:47AM THAT'S GOING TO BE SPREAD OUT OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS.
10:17:49AM SO YOU'LL SEE THAT HUMP, IF YOU WILL, IN TERMS OF THE
10:17:53AM EXPENDITURES.
10:17:53AM IN PURPLE, OF COURSE, THEY HAVE OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
10:17:57AM PROJECTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO DO.
10:18:01AM ALTHOUGH MUCH OF THIS DISCUSSION IS CONFINED TO THE TWO BIG
10:18:05AM PROJECTS, WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY ARE
10:18:07AM DOING NOW AND THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
10:18:11AM THIS IS THE COMPARISON OF MONTHLY RESIDENTIAL SERVICES.
10:18:19AM RIGHT NOW, BASED ON OUR COMPARISON AND REVIEW OF OTHER PEER
10:18:24AM LOCALITIES, WE ARE A COUPLE OF CENTS OFF -- SHORT, EXCUSE
10:18:27AM ME, OF THE AVERAGE, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, $34.91 IN THE LIGHT
10:18:31AM BLUE.
10:18:32AM THE INCREASE THAT WE PROPOSE WILL BRING US UP.
10:18:36AM YOU SEE IN THE DARK BLUE, ABOVE THE CURRENT AVERAGE AND
10:18:39AM LOWER THAN TWO OTHER LOCALITIES.
10:18:41AM BUT I THINK THE REALITY IS MANY, IF NOT MOST OF THOSE OTHER
10:18:46AM LOCALITIES, WILL ALSO INCREASE THEIR RATES.
10:18:49AM AGAIN, I'LL USE THE DIRECTOR'S WORD.
10:18:52AM IT IS A GREAT WORD, DYNAMIC.
10:18:54AM THIS ENVIRONMENT I THINK IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE DYNAMIC.
10:18:58AM WE CAN DO SNAPSHOTS IN TIME.
10:18:59AM YOU SEE WHAT THAT IS HERE.
10:19:02AM BUT ALL SIGNS POINT TO INCREASES IN THE FUTURE, DEPENDING
10:19:05AM UPON THE LOCALITY NEEDS, THEIR HISTORY, ET CETERA.
10:19:09AM I KNOW DIRECTOR WASHINGTON ALREADY HAS INFORMATION ABOUT
10:19:12AM OTHERS THAT ALREADY PLANNED TO INCREASE THEIR RATES.
10:19:16AM THIS IS A RETROSPECTIVE AND PROSPECTIVE LOOK AT THE
10:19:24AM RESIDENTIAL MONTHLY BILLING.
10:19:26AM HERE YOU SEE THAT NEARLY DECADE LONG FLATLINING OF THE
10:19:29AM RESIDENTIAL IN THE LIGHT BLUE.
10:19:30AM NO RATE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE PAST NINE YEARS.
10:19:33AM YOU SEE WE HAD INCREMENTAL INCREASES PRIOR TO THAT.
10:19:37AM WE WOULD LOVE FOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE INCREMENTAL INCREASES
10:19:41AM GOING FORWARD, BUT TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT THAT
10:19:46AM STAGNATION OF OUR REVENUES AND MY PREVIOUS ASSERTION IT'S
10:19:50AM NOT SUSTAINABLE, ESPECIALLY IN AN EXPENSE INCREASED
10:19:55AM ENVIRONMENT.
10:19:55AM IF I COULD HAVE THE ELMO UP BRIEFLY.
10:20:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE SLIDE, THIS IS SLIDE
10:20:06AM 12 THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT, YOU CAN SEE HISTORICALLY --
10:20:10AM MEAN, IT IS A VERY PREDICTABLE, THE INCREASE FROM 12 TO 15
10:20:15AM WASN'T TERRIBLY SIGNIFICANT.
10:20:17AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD ALL THIS PERIOD, CREATED PART
10:20:21AM OF THE PROBLEM WITH NINE YEARS OF FLAT LINE.
10:20:24AM IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT JUMP FROM 24 TO 28.
10:20:29AM THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED THE EXPLANATION.
10:20:31AM THE CONSEQUENCES OF DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A GRADUAL
10:20:38AM INCREASE TO NOT HAVE IT GO FROM WHERE WE ARE TODAY, JUST A
10:20:44AM LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 35 TO UP TO $55 A MONTH IN ALMOST THE
10:20:49AM BLINK OF AN EYE.
10:20:51AM WE'RE REALLY ONLY TALKING JUST A FEW YEARS.
10:20:56AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
10:20:57AM WE'LL BRING YOU A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
10:20:58AM IF YOU LIKE THIS FORMAT, WE CAN LAY IT OUT IN THIS FORMAT.
10:21:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELL, I THINK PART OF THE THING IS, IF YOU
10:21:05AM WERE GRANTED THIS TYPE OF AN INCREASE, WHAT DOES THAT BUY
10:21:09AM THE TAXPAYERS?
10:21:10AM WHAT IS THE RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT?
10:21:12AM WHAT SHOULD THEY EXPECT FOR THAT?
10:21:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I STARTED HEARING APRIL 15, AND WE
10:21:20AM HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING HAPPEN SINCE.
10:21:23AM WE'RE GOING ON NINE YEARS.
10:21:25AM BUT IF WE WOULD HAVE ADDED OR INCREASED IT A DOLLAR A YEAR
10:21:29AM SINCE, WE WOULD BE 43.
10:21:31AM IT WAS LESS OF AN IMPACT.
10:21:33AM BUT IF YOU LOOK AT 2019 TO 2014, AS YOU SHOWED WITH THE BINS
10:21:38AM AND THE CARTS, THE COST HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS.
10:21:41AM DOUBLE FOR THE BIG BINS AND FROM 44 TO 54 -- I'M SORRY,
10:21:45AM YEAH, THE CARTS 44 TO 54.
10:21:47AM THE BINS DOUBLING, WE'RE JUST NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE
10:21:52AM BASICS.
10:21:53AM AND IN THE PREVIOUS CHART YOU SHOWED OUR RATES ARE GOING TO
10:21:55AM BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT I NOTICED THAT AT ANOTHER
10:21:59AM MUNICIPALITY, YEAH, GAINESVILLE, THEY ONLY DO ONE TIME A
10:22:02AM WEEK COLLECTION WHERE WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT TOO.
10:22:05AM WE'RE GETTING MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
10:22:10AM WE'RE PROVIDING BETTER SERVICE IN COMPARISON, BUT WE SHOULD
10:22:14AM HAVE LOOKED AT THIS NINE YEARS AGO SAYING 50 CENTS MORE, A
10:22:19AM DOLLAR MORE, SMALLER, AND WE WOULD BE AHEAD OF THE GAME.
10:22:22AM WE CAN'T GO BACK IN TIME.
10:22:23AM AS COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN ASKED, WHERE CAN WE SOFTEN THE
10:22:28AM BLOW.
10:22:28AM YOU SAID YOU WOULD BE BRINGING DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
10:22:30AM NOW WE'RE GOING FROM 34 TO 54 WITHIN A FOUR-YEAR PERIOD.
10:22:35AM WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
10:22:37AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:22:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:22:40AM YEAH, OBVIOUSLY SOME SORT OF AN INCREASE IS WARRANTED.
10:22:43AM I THINK THE OVERALL THING WE HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH THE PUBLIC
10:22:46AM IS THE OBVIOUS.
10:22:47AM SINCE -- COVID WAS 2020, SINCE THE RETURN TO WORK FROM COVID
10:22:52AM THERE'S BEEN MASS INFLATION.
10:22:55AM THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT
10:22:58AM OF INFLATION RATE AMONG MANY, MANY COUNTRIES, BUT IT'S BEEN
10:23:02AM HIGH.
10:23:02AM IN 2021, I THINK INFLATION WAS AT 9, 10 PERCENT.
10:23:07AM FLORIDA UP UNTIL RECENTLY IT WAS 8, 9, 10% -- OR STRIKE
10:23:10AM THAT, IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
10:23:12AM NOW IT'S GONE DOWN TO 3 OR 4 PERCENT.
10:23:15AM BUT THAT'S STILL VERY, VERY HIGH.
10:23:17AM SO, YOU KNOW, AND OBVIOUSLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT MUNICIPALITIES
10:23:20AM HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THAT ADVERSE INFLATION.
10:23:23AM SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MATHEMATICS WHICH IS IF
10:23:26AM WE WANT TO PAY FOR THINGS AND OUR BASIC NEEDS, THEN SOME
10:23:30AM ADJUSTMENT HAS TO BE DONE.
10:23:31AM THAT BEING SAID, I'M WITH COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN THAT
10:23:35AM OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO SOFTEN THE BLOW, BUT SOME LEVEL OF
10:23:39AM ADJUSTMENT HAS GOT TO COME UP.
10:23:41AM IT'S A BASIC MATTER OF JUST INFLATION.
10:23:46AM THAT GOVERNMENTS HAVE BEEN HIT BY AND WORKING FAMILIES
10:23:49AM CONTINUE TO BE HIT BY, BUT IF WE WANT TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL
10:23:51AM OF SERVICE, THEN AN ADJUSTMENT IS UNFORTUNATELY NECESSARY.
10:23:56AM IT'S A MATTER OF HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT.
10:23:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:24:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:24:02AM I WILL TELL YOU THE REASON THE CITY OF GAINESVILLE IS SO
10:24:05AM HIGH IS BECAUSE THEY INVESTED IN A BIOMASS PLANT.
10:24:10AM IT WAS A POOR DECISION.
10:24:12AM BASICALLY THEIR CITIZENS ARE PAYING FOR THAT.
10:24:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH WAS THAT PROJECT?
10:24:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: LIKE A BILLION DOLLARS A LONG TIME AGO.
10:24:18AM IT WAS BAD, BAD, BAD.
10:24:20AM SO THEY ARE PAYING FOR THE SINS OF THE PAST.
10:24:23AM BUT REALLY, I THINK THAT WHAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT HOW -- IF
10:24:28AM YOU LOOK AT SLIDE 12 ABOUT HOW WE DID NOT INCREASE THE
10:24:35AM DOLLAR.
10:24:36AM AND IF WE HAD, WE WOULD BE AT 45 RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS WHAT
10:24:39AM THEY ARE TRYING FOR IN 2026.
10:24:42AM SO WE WOULD ALREADY BE AT 45.
10:24:45AM SO THESE INCREASES WOULDN'T SEEM SO MUCH.
10:24:52AM I WOULDN'T SAY IT IS JUST THE WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY.
10:24:55AM THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL GET TO, WE'RE PLANNING TO MOVE THE
10:24:58AM ENTIRE FACILITY.
10:24:58AM THAT IS COSTLY.
10:24:59AM I'LL LET THEM TALK ABOUT THAT.
10:25:02AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I COULD HAVE THE ELMO UP BRIEFLY, IF YOU
10:25:06AM CAN DO THAT IN THE BACK.
10:25:08AM THIS IS A SIMPLE 3%.
10:25:14AM I THINK TO ALMOST EVERYBODY'S POINT, IT CAN BE A DOLLAR, IT
10:25:18AM CAN BE A PERCENTAGE.
10:25:19AM OF COURSE, INFLATION ISN'T ALWAYS 3%.
10:25:22AM IT'S BEEN LESS THAN ONE AND AS HIGH AS SEVEN OR EIGHT.
10:25:26AM THIS IS A FLAT 3%.
10:25:28AM WE WOULD ALREADY BE TO THE 2026 LEVEL AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
10:25:31AM SAID OF NEARLY $45.
10:25:35AM WE ARE MAKING UP OR ATTEMPTING TO MAKE UP FOR LOST TIME.
10:25:38AM BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
10:25:50AM THANK YOU.
10:25:50AM ALSO BACK TO DIRECTOR WASHINGTON.
10:25:56AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: BEFORE I TOUCH ON THIS SLIDE, I DO WANT
10:26:00AM TO CLARIFY FOR YOU, CHAIRMAN, SO IF WE HAVE A CONTAINER IN
10:26:05AM OUR YARD, WE MAKE SURE WATER IS NOT COLLECTED THERE.
10:26:09AM BUT IF WATER TOUCHES GARBAGE, IT IS NOW LEACHATE WHICH IS
10:26:14AM GARBAGE JUICE FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS.
10:26:16AM WE'LL SAY THAT FOR THE PUBLIC.
10:26:18AM WE HAVE TO HANDLE THAT PER THE REGULATORY AGENCY.
10:26:23AM WE HAVE TO MANAGE THAT.
10:26:24AM JUST TO CLARIFY.
10:26:24AM SLIDE BACK UP, PLEASE.
10:26:27AM RATE INCREASE PROVIDE THE FOLLOWING.
10:26:30AM AS YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING.
10:26:32AM OPERATING COST THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2029 WITH THE PROPOSED
10:26:35AM INCREASES IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE MCKAY BAY, CURRENTLY
10:26:38AM DOING NOW, WHICH IS THE RETROFIT FOR THE WASTE TO ENERGY
10:26:44AM FACILITY AND BENEFITS FOR THAT IS LONGEVITY, THE RELIABILITY
10:26:48AM OF THE FACILITY.
10:26:49AM THE MORE DAYS AT THE PLANT, GETTING READY FOR QUESTIONS.
10:26:53AM THE MORE DAYS THAT THE PLANT IS UP AND RUNNING, THE MORE
10:26:56AM WASTE WE CAN PROCESS.
10:26:58AM WE'VE PROCESSED UP TO AT MAXIMUM, WE PROCESSED UP TO 330,000
10:27:04AM TONS BEFORE.
10:27:05AM RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 300,000 TONS.
10:27:08AM SO OUR GOAL IS TO GET BACK UP TO AROUND 320.
10:27:12AM SHOOTING FOR 330 IS RUNNING TO FAILURE.
10:27:15AM THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A LARGE RETROFIT NOW.
10:27:18AM WE DON'T WANT THAT MOVING FORWARD.
10:27:19AM WE HAVE MULTIPLE INITIATIVES TO PULL WASTE OUT OF THE WASTE
10:27:23AM STREAM, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE POPULATION IS INCREASING SO
10:27:26AM RAPIDLY.
10:27:27AM WE'RE ANTICIPATING AROUND 3,000 TONS AS A SYSTEM.
10:27:31AM 3,000 TONS PER YEAR MOVING FORWARD.
10:27:33AM THAT'S YARD WASTE, BULK WASTE, GARBAGE.
10:27:37AM NOT JUST GOING TO THE WASTE FACILITY.
10:27:39AM BUT WITH THE FUTURE PROJECTS, WE'RE POISED TO HANDLE THE
10:27:43AM ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, WHICH REDUCE THE ADDITIONAL WASTE.
10:27:50AM RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PICTURES ON
10:27:54AM THE SCREEN.
10:27:56AM WE HAVE THE ASH BUILDING AND THE COOLING TOWER AS WELL.
10:27:59AM RIGHT NOW, IF YOU STEP FOOT ON THE CAMPUS, YOU CAN SEE THAT
10:28:04AM WE ADD A SKIN TO THE ASH BUILDING.
10:28:06AM WE'RE UP AND RUNNING.
10:28:07AM THE PROJECT IS GOING VERY WELL.
10:28:09AM LOOKING FORWARD TO FINISHING UP THE PROJECT VERY SOON.
10:28:12AM MOVING TO THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE
10:28:15AM SOLID WASTE COMPLEX WILL PROVIDE US.
10:28:18AM I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THE NORTH SCALE WHICH IS VERY
10:28:25AM CRITICAL FOR US WHICH TAKES THE GARBAGE TRUCKS OUTSIDE OF
10:28:27AM THE SOUTH SCALE ENTRANCE, WHICH WILL HELP US REDUCE TIME AND
10:28:33AM INCREASE EFFICIENCIES.
10:28:33AM WITH THAT, THE BENEFITS OF THE RELOCATION ARE REDUCED TIME
10:28:38AM ON ROUTE.
10:28:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. WASHINGTON, THIS PROJECT, I KNOW A LOT
10:28:45AM HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID FOR -- NO?
10:28:47AM WHAT HASN'T -- WHAT HAVEN'T WE BUDGETED IN THIS PROJECT?
10:28:57AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: WE DO HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION COMING
10:28:59AM UP.
10:29:00AM WE CAN GO ON TO DETAILS ABOUT THE RELOCATION --
10:29:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW THE RELOCATION.
10:29:05AM BUT THE WASTE TO ENERGY PLANT HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED AND
10:29:08AM PAID FOR, CORRECT?
10:29:10AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: IT HAS.
10:29:14AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:29:16AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: COUNCIL, OF COURSE, HAS AUTHORIZED A
10:29:18AM REIMBURsem*nT RESOLUTION.
10:29:19AM SO WE ARE PAYING FOR THAT.
10:29:21AM BUT WE HAVE TO ISSUE DEBT SERVICE TO COVER THAT, OTHERWISE
10:29:26AM WE'RE NOT --
10:29:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:29:28AM OKAY.
10:29:30AM GOOD.
10:29:30AM WHAT I MEANT IS THIS PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD.
10:29:34AM WE AUTHORIZED THE EXPENDITURES OF THESE FUNDS.
10:29:36AM >> YES.
10:29:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION?
10:29:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO SAY, YES, WE STILL HAVE TO ISSUE
10:29:45AM BONDS FOR THIS.
10:29:46AM SO THEN WE'RE PAYING FOR THE WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY.
10:29:50AM THEN WE WANT TO PAY FOR THIS.
10:29:52AM I WILL TELL YOU, IF YOU HAVE NOT GOTTEN ON A GARBAGE TRUCK
10:29:55AM AND GONE OUT WITH THESE FOLKS, YOU SHOULD.
10:29:58AM I'VE DONE TWO TOURS AND STILL HAVE ONE LEFT.
10:30:02AM PRETTY MUCH EIGHT-HOUR DAYS.
10:30:03AM IT'S BEEN AMAZING TO SEE WHAT HIS TEAM DOES.
10:30:07AM BUT RIGHT NOW TO GIVE HIM PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU PUT THAT SLIDE
10:30:11AM BACK UP, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THIS NORTH SCALE HOUSE.
10:30:15AM RIGHT NOW, THE BOTTOM IS WHERE THE SCALE HOUSE IS NOW.
10:30:19AM AND OUR GARBAGE TRUCKS HAVE TO SIT IN LINE WITH ALL OF THE
10:30:23AM OTHER PEOPLE.
10:30:26AM AND THEY HAVE NO OPTION.
10:30:27AM THEY HAVE TO SIT THERE.
10:30:28AM WE GOT THROUGH RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
10:30:31AM I THINK ONLY A 15-MINUTE WAIT.
10:30:34AM THEY SAID YEAH IF WE HIT IT AN HOUR LATER WE WOULD HAVE BEEN
10:30:37AM THERE 45 MINUTES.
10:30:38AM BY THE TIME WE LEFT, THE LINE HAD BACKED UP.
10:30:42AM SO IN ALLOWING THEM TO HAVE A SEPARATE SCALE WOULD
10:30:45AM ABSOLUTELY SPEED THINGS ALONG.
10:30:47AM A LOT OF THIS IS JUST IMPROVING EFFICIENCY AND RIGHT NOW
10:30:52AM THEY DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
10:30:53AM THIS IS ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITING WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING ON
10:30:56AM DOING HERE.
10:30:56AM I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT DURING YOUR
10:31:01AM PRESENTATION.
10:31:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU AND LARRY WASHINGTON, THE ONLY PEOPLE
10:31:05AM I KNOW WHO GET EXCITED ABOUT GARBAGE.
10:31:07AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:31:08AM OKAY.
10:31:11AM CONTINUE.
10:31:13AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILWOMAN, WE HAVE THE
10:31:16AM EFFICIENCIES GAINED THERE.
10:31:17AM WITH THAT, WE HAVE INCREASED THROUGHPUT FOR THE CUSTOMERS AS
10:31:20AM WELL WHICH RESULTS IN INCREASED REVENUE.
10:31:22AM AND DECREASED WAIT TIMES AND OVERALL, DECREASED OR AT LEAST
10:31:26AM A REDUCTION IN COLLECTION TIMES FOR THE CITIZENS AT-LARGE.
10:31:47AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ENTERPRISE FUND, A QUICK REFRESH FOR THE
10:31:50AM PUBLIC.
10:31:50AM AGAIN, DISTINGUISHING SOLID WASTE AND SOME OTHER
10:31:54AM DEPARTMENTS, WATER AND WASTEWATER, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM OTHER
10:31:57AM CITY DEPARTMENTS.
10:31:58AM THESE ARE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE MANDATED TO RUN IN QUITE
10:32:03AM SIMPLE TERMS LIKE A BUSINESS.
10:32:04AM THEIR REVENUES ARE CONFINED TO ONLY THEIR OPERATIONS.
10:32:08AM WE CAN'T TAKE SOLID WASTE MONEY AND USE IT FOR THE POLICE
10:32:12AM DEPARTMENT, FOR EXAMPLE.
10:32:12AM AND WE DEMAND THAT THEY BE SELF-SUSTAINING, WHICH IS, AGAIN,
10:32:17AM ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
10:32:20AM IN CONTRAST TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, ANY PROFITS, QUOTE,
10:32:26AM UNQUOTE, PROFITS GENERATED ARE REINVESTED BACK INTO THE
10:32:30AM BUSINESS.
10:32:30AM AND THAT DEFINES AN ENTERPRISE FUND GENERALLY IN GOVERNMENT.
10:32:36AM AGAIN, PARKING IS ALSO, PARKING, WATER, WASTEWATER, SOLID
10:32:40AM WASTE.
10:32:40AM LITTLE REFRESHER ON ENTERPRISE FUNDING.
10:32:44AM THE RATE DESIGN STRATEGIES, AGAIN, AS WE GET INTO MORE
10:32:50AM DETAIL IN THE RATES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING, OF COURSE,
10:32:53AM FIRST AND FOREMOST, SUFFICIENT REVENUES TO MEET PROJECTED
10:32:57AM REQUIREMENTS.
10:32:58AM BUT ALSO, BULLET NUMBER TWO IS PRETTY IMPORTANT.
10:33:01AM IT SEEMS PRETTY OBVIOUS IN RETROSPECT THAT THEIR RATES WERE
10:33:06AM NOT DEVELOPED TO FULLY RECOVER COSTS.
10:33:09AM OF COURSE, THAT IS THE IDEAL.
10:33:10AM THAT IS THE BEST PRACTICE AND THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO BRING
10:33:13AM THESE RATES TODAY.
10:33:15AM RECOVERING THEIR COST ALONG WITH THEIR OTHER NEEDS, NOT JUST
10:33:20AM THEIR COSTS, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD
10:33:23AM LOOK FOR IN A BUSINESS.
10:33:24AM AND THEN NOT ONLY ADJUSTING THEIR EXISTING RATES, BUT AS
10:33:27AM WE'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL, DEVELOPING NEW RATES AND CHARGES
10:33:30AM FOR THINGS THAT WE IN THE PAST WE HAVEN'T CHARGED FOR.
10:33:34AM WE THINK WE NEED TO NOW.
10:33:35AM FIRST UP, THE RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION RATE RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:33:44AM YOU SEE ANNUALLY FOR FIVE YEARS AND THEN INDEXED THEREAFTER
10:33:50AM AS WE'VE DISCUSSED.
10:33:51AM IT'S ABOUT THREE OR FOUR DOLLARS A YEAR FOR THE FIVE YEARS
10:33:54AM TOTALING ABOUT $20 OVER THAT FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.
10:33:59AM WE ARE GOING TO OFFER A CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN
10:34:03AM ADDITION TO WHAT WE ALREADY OFFER, WHICH IS THE SENIOR
10:34:07AM DISCOUNT.
10:34:08AM SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FEES,
10:34:11AM GOING TO OFFER A LOW-INCOME DISCOUNT.
10:34:13AM AND THAT LAST BULLET WE WANT TO STRESS THIS IS PAID FOR BY
10:34:18AM THE GENERAL FUND.
10:34:21AM BECAUSE IT'S A BUSINESS, IT CAN'T OFFER DISCOUNTS.
10:34:25AM ANY DISCOUNTING HAS TO BE THE BURDEN OF THE GENERAL FUND.
10:34:28AM BUT WE WANT TO DO THAT.
10:34:29AM OF COURSE, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WILL HAVE A HARDSHIP FROM SOME
10:34:32AM OF THESE RATES, AND WE WANT TO ASSIST THEM.
10:34:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE PROJECTED ADDITIONAL COST OF
10:34:38AM PROVIDING THE LOW INCOME 50% AMI TO THE GENERAL FUND?
10:34:45AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T HAVE THAT ON ME.
10:34:46AM BUT I'LL CIRCLE BACK TO --
10:34:59AM TO THE COMMERCIAL COLLECTIONS, AGAIN, ANNUAL INCREASES OVER
10:35:02AM FIVE YEARS.
10:35:03AM THEY ARE MUCH TOO DETAILED AND NUANCED TO PROVIDE A SLIDE
10:35:08AM THAT I CAN SPEAK TO, ALTHOUGH MR. WASHINGTON WILL BE
10:35:11AM SPEAKING IN MORE DETAIL IN A MOMENT.
10:35:13AM VARIOUS FEES BASED ON VARIOUS CONDITIONS.
10:35:18AM OF COURSE, THE TIPPING FEW HE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
10:35:22AM PER TON, YOU SEE THE ESCALATION OVER THAT FIVE-YEAR PERIOD,
10:35:26AM ALONG WITH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, A $100 ADDITIONAL CHARGE
10:35:30AM FOR OUT-OF-COUNTY -- YES, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:35:35AM THE DIRECTOR SPEAKS TO IT BETTER THAN I DO ON THIS
10:35:39AM PARTICULAR ISSUE.
10:35:40AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:35:41AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: SO GO INTO DETAIL, AT TIMES WE RECEIVE
10:35:45AM CUSTOMERS COMING TO OUR SCALE HOUSE FROM OUT OF STATE.
10:35:48AM UPWARDS TO ALABAMA, NOT A LOT FROM ALABAMA BUT WE DO HAVE
10:35:53AM SOME COMING FROM ALABAMA.
10:35:54AM WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS COMING FROM ORLANDO AS WELL.
10:35:59AM MOST MUNICIPALITIES HAVE AN OUT-OF-COUNTY ADDITIONAL FEE
10:36:02AM THAT THEY CHARGE THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
10:36:03AM WE UNFORTUNATELY DO NOT.
10:36:05AM WE WANT TO RIGHT THAT WRONG AND THEN CHARGE THEM ADDITIONAL
10:36:08AM WHEN THEY WANT TO UTILIZE OUR FACILITY MOVING FORWARD.
10:36:11AM WHEN THEY WANT TO UTILIZE OUR FACILITY MOVING FORWARD.
10:36:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S GOOD.
10:36:18AM MAKES SENSE.
10:36:18AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WHEN I LEARNED THAT, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE
10:36:22AM REASONS I ASKED THE DIRECTOR TO HIGHLIGHT IT, IT ASTOUNDED
10:36:24AM ME THAT OUR RATES ARE SO LOW.
10:36:26AM WE'RE NOT IN NORTH FLORIDA.
10:36:29AM PEOPLE ARE STILL COMING FROM ALABAMA BECAUSE OUR RATES ARE
10:36:32AM SO LOW.
10:36:33AM WE HOPE TO REMEDY THAT.
10:36:36AM THE NEW MISCELLANEOUS FEES, AGAIN, DIRECTOR WASHINGTON.
10:36:42AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: THANK YOU, CFO DENNIS.
10:36:44AM THE NEW MISCELLANEOUS FEES, MOST OF THESE FEES ARE ALREADY
10:36:49AM -- WE ARE COMING FORWARD WITH THESE FEES BECAUSE THEY ARE
10:36:52AM ALREADY SERVICES RENDERED.
10:36:54AM WE HAVE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL CARTS AND I'M SURE YOU'VE
10:36:56AM BEEN OUT EN ROUTE.
10:36:58AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAVE.
10:36:59AM YOU'VE SEEN THIS FIRSTHAND.
10:37:00AM WE HAVE CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE OR
10:37:04AM FOUR -- I'VE SEEN UPWARDS OF FOUR CARTS AT THEIR HOME.
10:37:08AM NOW, WE ARE COLLECTING IT PER THE ORDINANCE, WE MUST COLLECT
10:37:12AM THE WASTE.
10:37:13AM HOWEVER, SIMILAR TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL, THEY
10:37:16AM CHARGE THOSE ADDITIONAL CONTAINERS.
10:37:18AM NOW MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER INITIATIVES, ROUTE
10:37:23AM WARE, GIVE US THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE AND
10:37:26AM VERIFICATION, WE CAN GUARANTEE, MA'AM, YOU HAVE TWO CARTS.
10:37:30AM DO YOU WANT TO ELECT TO KEEP THIS CART, YES OR NO?
10:37:34AM AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CHARGE YOU A NOMINAL FEE, WHICH
10:37:38AM IS ROUGHLY $20.
10:37:39AM THAT'S $20 A MONTH FOR EACH ADDITIONAL CART, UPWARDS TO FOUR
10:37:44AM CONTAINERS TOTAL.
10:37:45AM IF YOU NEED MORE THAN FOUR CONTAINERS, YOU MUST HAVE A SMALL
10:37:49AM BUSINESS GOING ON AND YOU NEED A FRONT LOAD CONTAINER.
10:37:51AM THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A MAXIMUM FOUR CONTAINERS.
10:37:53AM MOVING FORWARD, COMMERCIAL RECYCLING CARTS.
10:37:56AM ONCE UPON A TIME WE WERE RECEIVING MONEY FOR RECYCLING.
10:37:59AM STOPPED ACCEPTING RECYCLABLE MATERIAL THEN WE HAD A
10:38:07AM SHORTFALL IN REVENUE.
10:38:08AM WE CURRENTLY ARE NOT CHARGING FOR COMMERCIAL RECYCLING
10:38:12AM CARTS.
10:38:14AM SIMILAR TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES LIKE ORLANDO THEY CHARGE
10:38:17AM AROUND $20 FOR THEIR COMMERCIAL RECYCLING CARTS.
10:38:19AM WE LIKE TO DO THE SAME THING AS WELL.
10:38:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAY ORLANDO IS CHARGING $20 AND YOU
10:38:24AM WANT TO CHARGE --
10:38:27AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: THE SAME, EQUIVALENT.
10:38:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEEP IT ON PAR.
10:38:29AM HOW MANY COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS REQUEST THOSE CARTS OR
10:38:33AM USE THOSE?
10:38:34AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: WE HAVE A LOT.
10:38:36AM AROUND 10,000 CARTS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
10:38:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TIMES $20 A MONTH.
10:38:42AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: YES.
10:38:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S A LOT OF REVENUE.
10:38:44AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: IT'S SUBSTANTIAL.
10:38:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING.
10:38:47AM JUST GOING BACK FOR A SECOND ON PAGE 16, WHEN YOU SAY THAT
10:38:52AM THE REVENUE INCREASED OVER FIVE YEARS IS $20.05.
10:38:57AM I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO SHOW
10:38:59AM THAT BETWEEN THE 25 TO 26 THERE IS BASICALLY WHAT IS IT A
10:39:04AM 31-CENT INCREASE.
10:39:06AM MULTIPLY THAT.
10:39:08AM SHOULD PUT A FACTOR BY 12 EQUALS THE SUMS OF THE DIGITS.
10:39:11AM THE WAY IT IS PRESENTED, NOTHING ADDS UP BECAUSE IT IS
10:39:15AM INDIVIDUAL MONTHS BUT TALKING ABOUT THE TOTAL FIVE-YEAR SPAN
10:39:19AM WHICH IS 60 MONTHS.
10:39:21AM IN OTHER WORDS, FOR ANYONE TO UNDERSTAND PAGE 16, YOU HAVE
10:39:25AM TO MULTIPLY -- YOU GOT TO TAKE 363 FROM 332, WHICH IS 31
10:39:30AM CENTS, MULTIPLY THAT BY 12 AND DO THE SUMS EVERYWHERE DOWN
10:39:35AM BY 12.
10:39:35AM IT IS NOT EXPLAINED AND DIFFICULT FOR SOMEONE WHO IS NOT
10:39:38AM INVOLVED WITH THIS TO UNDERSTAND IT.
10:39:40AM I'M NOT TRYING TO CORRECT IT.
10:39:42AM I'M SAYING IT'S FINE, BUT IN MY OPINION YOU HAVE TO SHOW
10:39:46AM THAT 31 CENTS TIMES 12 EQUALS 33 CENTS BECAUSE IT DOES
10:39:51AM CHANGE FROM 31 TO 35, 35, SO FORTH AND SO ON.
10:39:54AM IT'S EXPLAINABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY UNDERSTAND.
10:39:57AM THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
10:39:58AM I AGREE THERE'S SOME CONVERSATION I HEARD ABOUT YOUR REGULAR
10:40:03AM CONTAINERS.
10:40:04AM I'VE SEEN SEVEN AND EIGHT IN ONE AREA.
10:40:07AM IT LOOKS NASTY.
10:40:08AM SOME OF THEM SPILL OVER.
10:40:10AM I'M NOT SAYING YOU'VE GOT TO GET RID OF ALL OF THEM BUT
10:40:13AM SHOULD BE SOMETHING DONE TO MINIMIZE THE PUBLIC VIEW OF IT.
10:40:18AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: AGREED.
10:40:20AM TO YOUR POINT, I'LL GO BACK TO THE SLIDE AS WELL.
10:40:23AM WE WANT TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT WITH THE CHARGES THAT WE'RE
10:40:26AM GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ONCE WE RECEIVE APPROVAL PER
10:40:29AM COUNCIL.
10:40:30AM RETURN TRIP CHARGE AS WELL.
10:40:33AM IF WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT FAIL TO SET THEIR GARBAGE
10:40:37AM CURBSIDE AND THEY WANT TO ELECT, THEY DON'T WANT TO WAIT
10:40:42AM UNTIL THE SECOND SERVICE DAY, THEY ELECT FOR THE TRUCK TO
10:40:44AM COME BACK, COST $125 TO COME BACK AND CHARGE --
10:40:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH DID YOU SAY TO COME BACK?
10:40:51AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: FOR US AS A DEPARTMENT, $125.
10:40:54AM WE WILL NOT CHARGE THE CUSTOMER THAT.
10:40:56AM IT WOULD BE A LOT LESS THAN $125, BUT IT COSTS THE
10:41:00AM DEPARTMENT $125 TO COME BACK TO A HOME, DISPOSE, GO BACK.
10:41:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON AND --
10:41:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE DATA ON THAT.
10:41:12AM HOW MANY PEOPLE REQUEST A RETURN TRIP?
10:41:14AM BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER DONE THAT, EVEN THOUGH I'VE WANTED TO
10:41:19AM BECAUSE I MISSED MY TIMELINE.
10:41:22AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: SOME INDIVIDUALS, OR SOME CUSTOMERS WILL
10:41:25AM SAY, HEY, THE TRUCK JUST MISSED ME AND THEN WE'LL PULL THE
10:41:28AM VIDEO, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE VIDEOS TO RECORD INSIDE OF OUR
10:41:33AM TRUCKS.
10:41:33AM WE'LL SEE THAT THE CONTAINER WAS NOT SET OUT CURBSIDE.
10:41:37AM DEPENDS ON IF WE HAVE THE TIME TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THE
10:41:43AM VIDEOS BECAUSE WE RECEIVE THE CALLS QUITE OFTEN.
10:41:47AM WE WILL COME BACK BECAUSE IT TAKES SO MUCH MANPOWER TO GO
10:41:50AM BACK AND REVIEW THE ENTIRE VIDEO.
10:41:53AM WAIT UNTIL THE TRUCK STOPS, GOES INSIDE THE YARD.
10:41:59AM WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, IF WE KNOW THERE IS A DOWNED ROUTE,
10:42:04AM WE DON'T HAVE THE DRIVER TO SERVICE THAT AREA, THEN WE'LL
10:42:07AM JUST SEND THE TRUCKS BACK OUT TO COLLECT BECAUSE WE DON'T
10:42:10AM REALLY TRULY KNOW, THE TIME TO GO BACK, SPEND THE MAN-HOURS
10:42:14AM REVIEWING THE WHOLE VIDEO.
10:42:16AM WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO QUICKLY PULL THIS INFORMATION
10:42:19AM WHEN THE ROUTEWARE COMES ABOARD, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE
10:42:23AM IT.
10:42:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MY QUESTION WAS, HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE A
10:42:27AM DAY DOING THAT?
10:42:28AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: IT'S VERY OFTEN.
10:42:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT MEANS WE'RE TAKING A LOSS IF IT COSTS
10:42:33AM $125 EVERY TIME WE DO IT AND THERE IS A LOT, THAT PROBABLY
10:42:36AM COULD END UP BEING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
10:42:39AM SO WHILE WE HAVE A POLICY WHERE YOU WOULD GO OUT AND DO
10:42:43AM THAT, OBVIOUSLY IS A CUSTOMER SERVICE, ADDRESSING IT FROM A
10:42:49AM SERVICE -- BUT COSTING THE CITY WHERE WE ARE RUNNING A
10:42:52AM DEFICIT.
10:42:53AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: TO YOUR POINT, ON SERVICE DAYS, LET'S
10:42:55AM SAY YOUR COLLECTION WAS MONDAY OR TUESDAY AND YOU CALLED IN
10:42:58AM AND LET US KNOW, WE'LL HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL COME IN ON A
10:43:01AM WEDNESDAY AND COLLECT ALL THE HOMES THAT WERE REPORTEDLY
10:43:05AM MISSED TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR THE DEPARTMENT VERSUS
10:43:08AM HAVING TO GO BACK AND FORTH THROUGHOUT THE DAY OR PROVIDING
10:43:11AM COLLECTION FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY.
10:43:13AM WE DO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
10:43:14AM WE'RE NOT SENDING OUT EACH TRUCK TO GO BACK AND FORTH EVERY
10:43:21AM SINGLE TIME WE HAVE A CUSTOMER CALLING IN A MISSED PICKUP.
10:43:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND COUNCIL MEMBER
10:43:27AM CLENDENIN.
10:43:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ALL ARE OFF WEDNESDAYS.
10:43:30AM SO YOU'RE PAYING OVERTIME TO GET FOLKS -- SO IT'S DOUBLY BAD
10:43:37AM FOR US.
10:43:37AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: WE ARE NOT PAYING OVERTIME.
10:43:39AM WHAT WE DO IS WE SHIFT OUR SCHEDULES AROUND SO THE TEAM IS
10:43:43AM ON TEN-HOUR SHIFTS.
10:43:45AM CERTAIN DAYS TEN HOURS WORKING FROM START TO FINISH, USUALLY
10:43:48AM MONDAY AND TUESDAY, AND THEN THE WEEKS WEAN OFF OR THE
10:43:52AM COLLECTION WEANS OFF THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.
10:43:54AM SO WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR THIS TYPE OF
10:43:57AM COLLECTION.
10:43:58AM WE DON'T PAY OVERTIME FOR THAT.
10:43:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
10:44:01AM BUT WE'RE PAYING LABOR COSTS THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO IF
10:44:03AM PEOPLE --
10:44:06AM THE OTHER, YOU TOUCHED ON THE NEW SOFTWARE.
10:44:08AM THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO PAY FOR, CORRECT?
10:44:12AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: YES.
10:44:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SOFTWARE?
10:44:15AM NOW THE TRUCK HAS TO GO BACK, BUT THE NEW SOFTWARE --
10:44:19AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: PROVIDES -- SO THIS IS A TURN-BY-TURN
10:44:23AM BASE SOFTWARE.
10:44:24AM THIS IS GARBAGE COLLECTION SOFTWARE SPECIFICALLY FOR
10:44:27AM COLLECTION VEHICLES.
10:44:28AM WE'LL HAVE TURN BY TURN.
10:44:30AM IT ELIMINATES THE USER ERROR OF I WAS ON MY ROUTE.
10:44:35AM I WENT AND DISPOSSESSED OF THE -- DISPOSED OF THE PACKED OUT
10:44:40AM TRUCK.
10:44:40AM RECEIVED 11 TONS OF WASTE, NOW I HAVE TO GO TO THE FACILITY
10:44:43AM AND DISPOSE AND COME BACK.
10:44:46AM SOMETIMES WE HAVE OUR DRIVERS, LET'S SAY THEY ARE NEW OR
10:44:49AM FORGET.
10:44:50AM THEY FORGET WHERE THEY ARE AT IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE NOW WE
10:44:53AM HAVE MAPS, PAPER MAPS VERSUS HAVING A SYSTEM THAT SAYS TURN
10:44:56AM HERE, TURN HERE, TURN HERE AND USE RIGHT TURNS ONLY TO
10:45:04AM COLLECT.
10:45:05AM IT WILL PROVIDE TURN BY TURN SERVICE.
10:45:08AM AND IN ADDITION, SERVICE VERIFICATION.
10:45:10AM IT'S HARD TO SAY WE DID NOT SERVICE YOU WITHOUT THAT SERVICE
10:45:14AM VERIFICATION TOOL.
10:45:16AM NOW WE HAVE THAT.
10:45:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OR WE WILL HAVE IT.
10:45:20AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: YES, WILL, IN HAD AUGUST.
10:45:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT KIND OF GOES TO
10:45:25AM WHAT WE WERE HAVING THE ROUTES AND MAKING SURE THAT THE
10:45:30AM ROUTES MAKE SENSE AND YOU'RE SAVING MONEY AND TIME.
10:45:34AM WHEN I WAS RIDING WITH ONE OF THE COMMERCIAL DRIVERS WHO
10:45:36AM ACTUALLY THEY GO AND THEY PICK UP THE ENTIRE COMPACTOR, IT'S
10:45:42AM WILD.
10:45:42AM IT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THING.
10:45:44AM THEY LITERALLY WENCH IT UP AND TAKE THE WHOLE THING AND DUMP
10:45:48AM IT AND BRING THE WHOLE THING BACK.
10:45:50AM IT TOOK AN HOUR TO DO THAT.
10:45:54AM RIGHT NOW THE GUY I WAS DRIVING WITH WENT TO ONE SPOT,
10:45:57AM ACTUALLY, IRONICALLY, WE WERE AT HANNA CITY CENTER, WHICH
10:46:01AM THEY HAD TO COME BACK TO BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS PARKED IN
10:46:04AM FRONT OF THE COMPACTOR SO THEY COULDN'T SERVICE IT.
10:46:06AM THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE
10:46:09AM COMPACTERS WHEN PEOPLE PARK IN FRONT OF THE AREAS.
10:46:12AM THEN WE HAD TO GO ACROSS TOWN TO PICK UP THE NEXT ONE.
10:46:15AM IT WASN'T EVEN IN THE SAME GENERAL VICINITY AND THIS
10:46:18AM SOFTWARE IS GOING TO HELP THAT.
10:46:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOUR LEVEL OF EXCITEMENT WHEN TALKING
10:46:23AM ABOUT TRASH IS CONCERNING ME.
10:46:25AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:46:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S NOT TRASH.
10:46:27AM IT'S EFFICIENCY.
10:46:28AM IT'S SAVING MONEY.
10:46:31AM IT'S SAVING TIME.
10:46:33AM IT'S AN AMAZING SPACE TO FIX THIS.
10:46:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE JUST GIDDY.
10:46:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM.
10:46:38AM I LOVE IT.
10:46:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN I TOURED THE WASTE TO ENERGY
10:46:42AM FACILITY, I THOUGHT IT WAS AWESOME.
10:46:43AM I UNDERSTAND THE EXCITEMENT.
10:46:44AM IT'S ACTUALLY VERY FASCINATING.
10:46:46AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: WE APPRECIATE THE SOLID WASTE
10:46:48AM ENTHUSIASTS.
10:46:49AM IF I CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDE.
10:46:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE GOING TO SLIDE 19.
10:46:58AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: ADDITIONAL FEES.
10:46:59AM PLACING COMPACTERS IN ROLL-OFFS.
10:47:02AM THIS IS INDUSTRY STANDARD CHARGES THAT WE ARE NOT UTILIZING.
10:47:06AM WE'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, SO WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT THAT
10:47:09AM INTO OUR SYSTEM.
10:47:10AM MOVING SOUTH, SO WE HAVE CART SPECIAL CLEANING, OUR
10:47:14AM RESIDENTIAL CARTS.
10:47:14AM AT TIMES WE DO RECEIVE CALLS, HEY, I MIGHT HAVE MAGGOTS IN
10:47:19AM MY CONTAINER.
10:47:20AM LET'S SAY YOU PUT FOOD WASTE AND THERE'S SOME SPILLAGE OF
10:47:24AM WHATEVER YOU HAVE IN THAT BAG.
10:47:27AM IF YOU WANT -- WE GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS HOW TO
10:47:30AM CLEAN THEM, BUT IF YOU WANT TO ELECT FOR US TO COME OUT AND
10:47:33AM CLEAN YOUR CONTAINER, WE'LL HAVE THAT SERVICE.
10:47:35AM AND THERE IS A FEE.
10:47:37AM THIS IS NEW, YES.
10:47:38AM WITHOUT ADDING PERSONNEL.
10:47:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY GET MAGGOTS ARE
10:47:43AM THE SAME PEOPLE WHO MISS THE TRASH PICKUP DAY.
10:47:48AM I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ME.
10:47:49AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: WELL, KUDOS TO YOU.
10:47:53AM THEN WE HAVE OVERLOADED CONTAINERS AS WELL.
10:47:56AM IF YOUR CONTAINER IS OVERLOADED, WE'LL CHARGE YOU A FEE TO
10:48:00AM COLLECT IT.
10:48:00AM IT'S BY TON.
10:48:01AM USUALLY THAT IS YOUR COMMERCIAL CONTAINERS.
10:48:03AM IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL.
10:48:04AM THAT IS NOT RESIDENTIAL.
10:48:08AM AGAIN, MOST OF THESE ADDITIONAL FEES ARE NEW MISCELLANEOUS
10:48:12AM FEES, ARE FOR SERVICES ALREADY RENDERED.
10:48:16AM NOW WE'RE RECEIVING THE FUNDS FOR THESE SERVICES.
10:48:26AM >> INTERESTING.
10:48:27AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: THANK YOU FOR BEING INTERESTED.
10:48:28AM HOW OUR RATES AND SERVICES COMPARE TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
10:48:31AM AS YOU CAN SEE HIGHLIGHTED ABOVE, CITY OF TAMPA $34.91.
10:48:35AM GARBAGE PICKUP, RECYCLING PICKUP.
10:48:37AM YARD WASTE AS WELL AND THEN WE HAVE A SWEEP PICKUP AND
10:48:42AM RESIDENTIAL AS FAR AS THE BRUSH SITE, THE TRANSFER STATION.
10:48:46AM THESE ARE ALL OF OUR SERVICES LISTED.
10:48:49AM YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
10:48:52AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, YOU MENTIONED THAT WE'RE GOING TO
10:48:55AM REACH AROUND $50 IN ROUGHLY FIVE YEARS.
10:49:00AM MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, THEY HAVE ANNOUNCED THIS ALREADY, THEY
10:49:03AM HAVE A TENTATIVE INCREASE OF 7.3% AND THAT BRINGS THEM
10:49:06AM UPWARDS TO $45.42.
10:49:10AM THIS YEAR.
10:49:12AM NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
10:49:14AM THAT JUST SHOWS THAT THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA AS LISTED
10:49:19AM HERE IS MOVING TOWARDS MORE RATE INCREASES.
10:49:22AM AND THERE ARE OTHER INDIVIDUALS, OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE
10:49:24AM DOING THE SAME AS WELL.
10:49:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET IT.
10:49:27AM BUT I RAN ON THE PLATFORM OF DON'T TURN TAMPA INTO
10:49:30AM MIAMI-DADE.
10:49:31AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: JUST GENERAL EXAMPLE.
10:49:33AM I'LL PASS IT BACK OVER TO THE CFO.
10:49:41AM THANK YOU.
10:49:43AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:49:44AM YOU SEE, COUNCIL, HERE AN EXAMPLE OF OUR AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL
10:49:54AM TOTAL UTILITY BILL INCREASE ACCOUNTING FOR THE ANTICIPATED
10:49:57AM INCREASES IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT CHARGES AND
10:50:03AM SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT.
10:50:04AM INITIAL YEAR, $8.19.
10:50:08AM AGAIN, STAYS PRETTY CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS FOR A
10:50:11AM TOTAL OF $39 OVER THAT FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.
10:50:14AM ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO.
10:50:28AM AGAIN, ALL OF THIS -- OR ALL OF THESE EXERCISES HAVEN'T BEEN
10:50:35AM DONE IN A VACUUM.
10:50:36AM NOT ONLY ARE WE TRYING TO INCREASE FUND BALANCES, COVER
10:50:42AM OPERATING EXPENDITURES, FUND PROJECTS, BUT ALL OF THIS WITH
10:50:45AM AN EYE TO GOING TO THE BOND MARKET.
10:50:48AM AGAIN, THE BOND MARKET IS GOING TO GET THE BEST RATE.
10:50:53AM THEY, THE INVESTORS AND THE MARKET DEMAND CERTAIN THINGS.
10:50:57AM YOU SEE THIS SNIPPET FROM MOODY'S RATING METHODOLOGY.
10:51:01AM AGAIN, WE WILL ADHERE TO AND PROVIDE PRESENTATIONS TO
10:51:04AM MOODY'S, STANDARD & POOR'S AND FITCH RATING AGENCIES FOR
10:51:08AM THESE DEBT ISSUANCES.
10:51:11AM YOU SEE SOME OF THE CRITERIA HERE.
10:51:12AM I ALSO WANT TO GIVE SOME CREDIT TO RAFTELIS AND PUBLIC
10:51:18AM RESOURCES ADVISORY GROUP.
10:51:19AM RAFTELIS IS OUR THIRD-PARTY CONSULTANT.
10:51:22AM JUST A TREMENDOUS DEPTH AND BREADTH OF EXPERIENCE IN DOING
10:51:26AM THESE THINGS.
10:51:27AM WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM IN THE PAST.
10:51:29AM OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS, PUBLIC RESOURCES ADVISORY GROUP OR
10:51:32AM PRAG, OUTSTANDING FINANCE PROFESSIONALS.
10:51:36AM THANK YOU TO THEM.
10:51:37AM AGAIN, NONE OF IT HAS BEEN DONE IN A VACUUM IN TERMS OF TEAM
10:51:43AM WORKERS, LARRY AND MY SHOP.
10:51:46AM SYSTEM CHARACTERISTICS.
10:51:47AM HOW OLD ARE THE ASSETS AND WHAT'S THEIR CONDITION?
10:51:51AM WE'RE TAKING CARE TO A GREAT EXTENT OF THAT FIRST BULLET
10:51:56AM POINT.
10:51:57AM ASSET CONDITION.
10:51:58AM THE EXTENSIVE REFURB AND REHABILITATION ON THE WASTE TO
10:52:01AM ENERGY FACILITY.
10:52:03AM THAT IS GOING TO BE A BIG PLUS FROM THE MARKET'S
10:52:05AM PERSPECTIVE.
10:52:05AM WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT BORROW MONEY FOR SOMETHING
10:52:08AM THAT WILL COLLAPSE THE DAY AFTER THEY ISSUE THE DEBT.
10:52:11AM OUR SERVICE SIZE.
10:52:14AM OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE AND ANNUAL EXPENDITURES.
10:52:17AM YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE RANGE?
10:52:19AM IS OUR SERVICE SIZE 65 MILLION?
10:52:21AM IS OUR SERVICE SIZE 200 MILLION?
10:52:24AM OUR SYSTEM IS A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED MILLION.
10:52:27AM AGAIN, OF A DETERMINANT SUFFICIENT SIZE FOR THE DEBT SERVICE
10:52:33AM THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING.
10:52:36AM IF YOU'RE IN A VERY SMALL LOCALITY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE
10:52:39AM A VERY GOOD TIME REQUESTING A HUNDRED PLUS MILLION DOLLARS
10:52:43AM FOR SOMETHING.
10:52:43AM WE'VE GOT THAT OOMPH.
10:52:44AM WE'VE GOT THAT SIZE.
10:52:47AM OUR SERVICE AREA, OUR MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.
10:52:53AM ARE YOUR RESIDENTS FROM A STATISTICAL PERSPECTIVE GOING TO
10:52:58AM BE ABLE TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF THE RATE STRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE
10:53:03AM PROPOSING?
10:53:03AM AGAIN, THIS IS YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
10:53:05AM WE THINK IT IS VERY MODERATE AND MINIMAL.
10:53:08AM WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE RATING AGENCIES ARE GOING TO SAY THE
10:53:12AM SAME BASED ON OUR AREA MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.
10:53:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU MUST MADE A COMMENT.
10:53:17AM YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
10:53:20AM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF RAFTELIS TO THE
10:53:24AM CITY, NOT CITY COUNCIL PROPOSING THIS RATE STRUCTURE.
10:53:27AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
10:53:28AM THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
10:53:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE TELLING US.
10:53:32AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION.
10:53:34AM AGAIN, WE'LL COME BACK WITH DIFFERENT CRITERIA AND DIFFERENT
10:53:38AM SUBDIVISIONS BASED ON COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK.
10:53:41AM A COUPLE OF THE OTHER RATING CONSIDERATIONS, FINANCIAL
10:53:55AM STRENGTH.
10:53:56AM WHY DOES IT MATTER?
10:53:57AM IT MATTERS FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS.
10:53:59AM THIS IS DIRECTLY FROM THE MOODY'S RATING CRITERIA, THE
10:54:03AM FINANCIAL HEALTH OF A UTILITY DETERMINES ITS FLEXIBILITY TO
10:54:07AM RESPOND TO CONTINGENCIES, RESILIENCE AGAINST POTENTIAL
10:54:11AM SHORT-TERM SHOCKS AND CUSHION AGAINST LONG-TERM UNFAVORABLE
10:54:15AM TREND.
10:54:16AM OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT ONE RIGHT IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR, THE
10:54:20AM PANDEMIC.
10:54:21AM BUT AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, AS THEY SAY IN THE EMERGENCY
10:54:24AM MANAGEMENT PROFESSION, THINGS THAT HAVE NEVER HAPPENED
10:54:26AM BEFORE HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.
10:54:27AM SO WE HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE AND STRONG ENOUGH TO RESPOND TO
10:54:31AM UNFORESEEN CIRc*msTANCES.
10:54:33AM AND THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO SOME OF THOSE DETAILS I WAS
10:54:36AM TALKING ABOUT.
10:54:37AM THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE.
10:54:41AM TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE HIGHEST RATING AND THAT'S WHAT
10:54:44AM WE'RE SHOOTING FOR, THEY REQUIRE 200% OF NET REVENUE
10:54:49AM AVAILABLE TO COVER ANY DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS.
10:54:51AM OUR FORECAST PUTS US WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR CRITERIA.
10:54:55AM AGAIN, WE'RE SHOOTING VERY HIGH FOR OUR RATING BECAUSE
10:54:59AM THAT'S GOING TO TRANSLATE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU
10:55:03AM FIGURES FOR THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
10:55:04AM THAT'S GOING TO TRANSLATE INTO CONSIDERABLE SAVINGS SHOULD
10:55:08AM COUNCIL DECIDE TO ISSUE THIS DEBT.
10:55:10AM DAY'S CASH ON HAND.
10:55:14AM ANOTHER CRITERIA SEPARATE AND APART FROM DEBT SERVICE
10:55:17AM COVERAGE.
10:55:17AM HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE?
10:55:18AM A HUNDRED DAYS?
10:55:19AM 150 DAYS?
10:55:20AM 250 DAYS.
10:55:21AM WE'RE SHOOTING FOR 150 DAYS.
10:55:25AM SHOOTING FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT WOULD, OF COURSE,
10:55:28AM NECESSITATE AN INCREASE ABOVE WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED TO YOU.
10:55:32AM WE THINK THAT IS A HAPPY MEDIAN.
10:55:35AM DEBT TO OPERATING REVENUE, TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE HIGHEST
10:55:39AM RATING, THEY WANT TO HAVE LESS THAN -- WE MUST HAVE LESS
10:55:42AM THAN TWO TIMES OUR RATE PLAN ACCOUNTS FOR THAT UP TO THE
10:55:48AM SECOND HIGHEST RATING CRITERIA.
10:55:49AM I SAY THAT BECAUSE, AGAIN, SO MANY DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR
10:55:53AM THESE RATING AGENCIES, AND WE'LL GATHER MORE INFORMATION AS
10:55:57AM THEY GRILL US, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DO, BEFORE WE ISSUE THE
10:56:00AM DEBT.
10:56:01AM ALL THREE OF THEM WILL GET THEIR FEEDBACK, THEY WILL GET OUR
10:56:05AM FEEDBACK.
10:56:06AM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WEIGH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT
10:56:09AM CRITERIAS TO GET US THE BEST POSSIBLE RATING WITH THE
10:56:12AM FINANCE STRUCTURE AND RATE STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
10:56:15AM MANAGEMENT.
10:56:18AM WELL, WE'RE A LITTLE BIASED.
10:56:20AM WE THINK WE HAVE A GREAT OPERATION MANAGEMENT IN PLACE.
10:56:23AM WE REALLY DO.
10:56:24AM I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT OUR STRENGTHS OF OPERATING,
10:56:29AM MANAGEMENT, AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT ARE WHAT HAVE ALLOWED
10:56:32AM US TO GET TO THIS POINT SO FAR WITH SUCH A PLATEAUED RATE
10:56:36AM STRUCTURE.
10:56:36AM SO WE FEEL VERY, VERY STRONG THERE.
10:56:40AM REGULATORY COMPLIANCE AND CAPITAL PLANNING.
10:56:45AM THAT'S GOING TO BE -- THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE DID THE
10:56:49AM RATE STUDY, TO CHECK ALL OF THESE BOXES AND, OF COURSE, THE
10:56:52AM RATING AGENCIES AND THE MARKET WILL GO THROUGH THE RATE
10:56:56AM STUDY WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB.
10:56:59AM LEGAL PROVISIONS.
10:57:00AM THE RATING AGENCIES WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A LONG-TERM
10:57:03AM STRATEGY.
10:57:04AM I'VE SAID IT BEFORE.
10:57:05AM I'M SURE I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
10:57:06AM THE PIPES PROGRAM WAS A WONDERFUL TEMPLATE FOR THIS.
10:57:09AM COUNCIL APPROVED AN ONGOING, PROGRESSIVE RATE STRUCTURE INTO
10:57:14AM THE FUTURE THAT WE AND THE RATING AGENCIES AND OBVIOUSLY THE
10:57:18AM MARKET, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, FELT ACCOMMODATED
10:57:24AM ALL OF THOSE BIG PROJECTS THAT WE PLAN TO DO, AGAIN, 20
10:57:27AM YEARS, NEARLY $3 BILLION.
10:57:29AM SO THE RATING AGENCIES IN THE MARKET WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
10:57:34AM DOING THAT AGAIN, THAT WE'VE PLANNED FOR THAT.
10:57:36AM THE RATE COVENANT.
10:57:38AM THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN OUR BORROWING PROCESS.
10:57:40AM AGAIN, WE ARE OBLIGATING FUNDS TO PAY FOR THIS.
10:57:43AM THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE REQUIREMENTS.
10:57:46AM AGAIN, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT THE RATING
10:57:49AM AGENCIES AND THE MARKET WILL LOOK AT AS I'VE MENTIONED.
10:57:52AM THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT HAS NO DEBT NOW.
10:57:54AM SO THEY DON'T HAVE A DEBT SERVICE RESERVE REQUIREMENT, BUT
10:57:58AM THEY WILL.
10:57:59AM AGAIN, ALL PART OF BOLSTERING THAT FINANCIAL PICTURE NOT
10:58:03AM ONLY FOR OUR CONFIDENCE, COUNCIL'S CONFIDENCE, THE PUBLIC'S
10:58:06AM CONFIDENCE, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE BUYING OUR BONDS.
10:58:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
10:58:15AM YOU SAID SOLID WASTE HAS NO DEBT SERVICE RIGHT NOW.
10:58:17AM HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR THE WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY?
10:58:22AM WE HAVE TO TAKE OUT BONDS ON THAT BUT HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR
10:58:25AM IT RIGHT NOW?
10:58:27AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: RIGHT NOW WE ARE FLOATING THE MONEY FROM
10:58:29AM CASH.
10:58:29AM AND THAT'S PART OF THE REIMBURsem*nT RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL
10:58:34AM APPROVED.
10:58:35AM IT ALLOWED US TO START SPENDING MONEY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT
10:58:39AM WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNKNOWN SITUATION WITH THE TURBINE
10:58:43AM OUT THERE THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN SPEAK MUCH BETTER.
10:58:46AM WE WANTED TO GET A JUMP ON THAT.
10:58:48AM THE REIMBURsem*nT RESOLUTION WILL ALLOW US TO PAY OURSELVES
10:58:51AM BACK FROM THE DEBT SERVICE.
10:58:52AM VERY GOOD QUESTION.
10:58:53AM HOW WE'RE MANAGING TO KEEP BOTH THOSE BALLS IN THE AIR.
10:58:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: REALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THIS RATE
10:58:58AM INCREASE IS GOING TO PAY FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW PLUS
10:59:01AM WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
10:59:03AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
10:59:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
10:59:05AM THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.
10:59:06AM THANK YOU.
10:59:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:59:16AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS MANY TIMES.
10:59:19AM WE THINK AND HOPE WE DID A GOOD JOB OF TELEGRAPHING, AGAIN,
10:59:24AM THAT IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE WE WERE GOING TO
10:59:26AM HAVE TO BRING A PROPOSAL TO CITY COUNCIL.
10:59:30AM YOU SEE THE VARIOUS TIMES WE'VE DONE THAT.
10:59:32AM OF COURSE, THE NUMBERS CHANGED OVER TIME.
10:59:33AM WE'RE IN A DYNAMIC -- HAVE BEEN IN A DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT,
10:59:37AM BUT WE THINK WE'VE GOT A LOCK ON IT NOW, WHICH IS ONE OF THE
10:59:40AM REASONS WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU.
10:59:44AM OUR FINANCING PLAN, PREFERRED FINANCING PLAN, STEP ONE, IT
10:59:54AM WILL BE THIS MONTH -- EXCUSE ME, NEXT MONTH WE'LL ASK
10:59:57AM COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE A BANK NOTE FOR THAT WASTE TO ENERGY
11:00:01AM FACILITY PROJECT, ABOUT $120 MILLION.
11:00:04AM I WON'T GET TOO INTO THE DETAILS UNLESS YOU'D LIKE ME TO.
11:00:09AM ONE OF THE REASONS YOU SEE STEP ONE, BANK NOTE, STEP TWO,
11:00:12AM LINE OF CREDIT, A BANK NOTE WILL ALLOW US TO TAKE ALMOST ALL
11:00:16AM OF THE MONEY OR ALL THE MONEY IF WE NEED IT RIGHT THEN.
11:00:19AM BECAUSE THIS SHOULD BE A ONE-SHOT.
11:00:22AM A ONE-YEAR EXPENSE.
11:00:23AM WE DON'T WANT TO BORROW MONEY FOR PROJECTS TWO, THREE, FOUR
11:00:29AM YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND PAY INTEREST ON IT AND WE'RE NOT
11:00:32AM PAYING FOR YET.
11:00:33AM THAT'S WHAT A BANK NOTE WILL ALLOW US TO DO.
11:00:36AM NOW, REGARDING THE RELOCATION PROJECT, AGAIN, YOU'LL RECALL
11:00:40AM FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDES THAT'S GOING TO BE A MULTIYEAR
11:00:43AM PROJECT.
11:00:43AM WE DON'T WANT TO DRAW DOWN $130 MILLION AND BE PAYING
11:00:48AM INTEREST ON THAT.
11:00:49AM A LINE OF CREDIT WILL ALLOW US TO ONLY DRAW WHAT WE NEED
11:00:52AM WHEN WE NEED IT.
11:00:54AM SO WE'RE ONLY PAYING INTEREST ON THAT.
11:00:56AM THOSE ARE THE SHORT TERMS.
11:00:59AM IN A PERFECT WORLD WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IN AROUND 2027 IS TO
11:01:03AM CONSOLIDATE, AND WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, CONSOLIDATE THOSE
11:01:06AM TWO SHORT-TERM ISSUANCES INTO WHAT IS TYPICALLY RECOGNIZED
11:01:11AM AS GOVERNMENT FINANCE, A 30ISH YEAR BOND.
11:01:16AM ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS IN TOTAL.
11:01:18AM THAT'S SIMPLY THE COMBINATION OF STEP ONE AND STEP TWO.
11:01:22AM A COUPLE OF ADVANTAGES IN THAT, ONE, WE WOULD HOPE BY THAT
11:01:27AM TIME PERHAPS, BUT, AGAIN, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW, ESPECIALLY
11:01:30AM YEARS INTO THE FUTURE.
11:01:32AM WILL RATES BE LESS?
11:01:34AM AS I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT, RATES ARE STILL HISTORICALLY
11:01:38AM LOW BUT NOWHERE NEAR AS LOW AS WE HAVE ALL GOTTEN USED TO IN
11:01:42AM THE PAST FEW YEARS.
11:01:45AM BORROWING AND MONEY WAS VERY, VERY INEXPENSIVE.
11:01:47AM IT'S NOT AS INEXPENSIVE AS IT WAS.
11:01:50AM SO THAT'S OUR FINANCING PLAN.
11:01:52AM WANTED TO BREAK THAT DOWN.
11:01:53AM AGAIN, IT'S ILLUSTRATIVE.
11:01:57AM IT WILL CHANGE SOMEWHAT BASED ON TIME FRAMES AND AMOUNTS.
11:02:00AM BUT GENERALLY IN 2027 WE'LL BE LOOKING TO ISSUE $250 MILLION
11:02:04AM BOND.
11:02:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT INTEREST RATES
11:02:08AM AND HOW THEY WERE -- I MEAN, NOT FREE MONEY BUT YEARS AGO IT
11:02:11AM WAS VERY CHEAP.
11:02:12AM AND NOW WE SEE CAR LOANS AT 8% WITH GREAT CREDIT.
11:02:16AM MORTGAGES ARE HIGH.
11:02:18AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS GOING TO DO IN THE
11:02:21AM NEXT FEW YEARS.
11:02:22AM TALKING ABOUT SMALL REDUCTIONS BUT IT REALLY HASN'T
11:02:26AM HAPPENED.
11:02:26AM FROM NOW TO 2027, BEFORE WE ISSUE THAT $250 MILLION
11:02:31AM HOPEFULLY -- AND WE ARE HIGHLY RATED.
11:02:35AM YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THAT VERY PROUDLY AND FOR GOOD REASON.
11:02:41AM WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.
11:02:43AM BUT HOPEFULLY RATES COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND IT'S NOT
11:02:45AM GOING TO BE AS EXPENSIVE TO BORROW AND BOND THAT MONEY.
11:02:50AM TIME WILL TELL BETWEEN NOW AND THREE YEARS.
11:02:53AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, IT WILL.
11:02:55AM YOU'VE GOT ANY NUMBER OF GEOPOLITICAL AND U.S. POLITICAL
11:03:02AM THINGS GOING ON THAT COULD INFLUENCE IT TOMORROW.
11:03:06AM IT COULD INFLUENCE IT IN FIVE YEARS.
11:03:08AM BUT WE WOULD HOPE AND LOOK FOR OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS
11:03:14AM GENERALLY THE FEDERAL RESERVE RATE TO GO DOWN AND THEN
11:03:17AM SPECIFICALLY BORROWING COSTS.
11:03:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN YOU HAVE PROJECTED DEBT SERVICE,
11:03:22AM CORRECT?
11:03:24AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, IF I CAN HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE.
11:03:27AM WE THINK THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE PICTURE AT THIS TIME.
11:03:32AM AGAIN, YOU SEE THE INTEREST RATE, 4.5.
11:03:36AM FAR HIGHER THAN WE'VE EXPERIENCED RECENTLY, BUT NOT
11:03:40AM UNUSUALLY HIGH FOR THIS PARTICULAR ENVIRONMENT.
11:03:42AM AGAIN, IT'S ILLUSTRATIVE.
11:03:45AM WE'RE NOT ASKING TO GO OUT AND BORROW $250 MILLION RIGHT
11:03:48AM NOW, BUT YOU SEE AT THAT RATE FOR THAT TIME PERIOD, THE
11:03:52AM TOTAL INTEREST IS JUST ABOUT THE COST OF THE PROJECT.
11:03:55AM IN MY EXPERIENCE I'VE SEEN MANY PROJECTS WHERE THE INTEREST
11:03:59AM COST EXCEEDED THE COST OF THE PROJECT.
11:04:01AM AGAIN, PART OF IT IS THE MARKET.
11:04:04AM PART IS THE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT.
11:04:06AM ANNUAL BOND PAYMENTS YOU SEE THERE OF A LITTLE OVER
11:04:10AM $14.5 MILLION.
11:04:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME ASK YOU, CIT IS BEING TALKED
11:04:16AM ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S COMING UP.
11:04:18AM IS CIT MONEY ALLOWED TO BE SPENT ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS
11:04:23AM INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BOND OUT THE $250 MILLION, CAN WE USE
11:04:30AM CASH BOND LESS BECAUSE $248.5 MILLION JUST IN INTEREST.
11:04:34AM IS THERE A WAY TO APPLY CIT TO THAT OR NOT ALLOWABLE?
11:04:41AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU COULD.
11:04:42AM IT MAY BE A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX.
11:04:43AM I'LL PREFACE MY COMMENTS BY SAYING I THINK THE DEMANDS ON
11:04:46AM THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX AREN'T GOING TO ALLOW THAT.
11:04:49AM BUT FROM A CAPABILITY PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE WE ARE ENTERING
11:04:53AM INTO SHORT-TERM DEBT ISSUANCES --
11:04:57AM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
11:05:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT BORROWING THE
11:05:25AM LEAST AMOUNT POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE INTEREST IS RIDICULOUS.
11:05:30AM IT'S WHAT IS EXPECTED THE COST OF THE PROJECT.
11:05:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON THESE TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW
11:05:40AM HOW I FEEL ABOUT PAY GO, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS THE WAY TO GO.
11:05:42AM BUT THIS IS SOMETHING, IN MY VIEWPOINT, IS PERFECTLY
11:05:44AM APPROPRIATE FOR GENERATIONAL FINANCING, I.E., BONDING,
11:05:47AM BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING, ALL THESE PEOPLE WILL BE MOVING
11:05:51AM HERE.
11:05:51AM THEY NEED TO PAY THEIR SHARE AS WELL.
11:05:53AM WHEN THEY COME HERE, THEY CAN START PAYING THIS AS WELL.
11:05:56AM SO THE BURDEN ISN'T ALWAYS ON THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY
11:05:59AM HERE FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS.
11:06:01AM THAT DOESN'T CONCERN ME AS MUCH IN THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.
11:06:03AM I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT AND COMPRESSED INCREASE
11:06:09AM IN TIME.
11:06:09AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE SOME PROPOSALS OF WHAT THE IMPACT
11:06:12AM IF WE COULD MAYBE STRETCH OUT THAT FIVE-YEAR TERM FOR THE
11:06:16AM RATE INCREASES FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO MAKE THE CLIMB IN
11:06:21AM INCREASES LESS IMPACTFUL ON OUR RESIDENTS.
11:06:24AM MR. WASHINGTON, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THE NEED OF IN ABOUT
11:06:32AM 20 YEARS WE'LL HAVE TO REPLACE THE WASTE TO ENERGY PLANT.
11:06:36AM AND THIS IS FIVE YEARS INTO PROBABLY THAT 20-YEAR CYCLE.
11:06:39AM WE'RE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY TALKING ABOUT PLANNING TO BUILD --
11:06:44AM IN TODAY'S DOLLAR, A BILLION DOLLAR NEW FACILITY.
11:06:47AM THIS DEBT IS 34 YEARS.
11:06:52AM IF WE HAVE TO REPLACE THAT THING IN 20 YEARS, WE STILL OWE
11:06:57AM 14 YEARS OF THIS DEBT AND HAVE TO TAKE ON ANOTHER BILLION
11:07:00AM DOLLARS IN FISCAL YEAR 24 MONEY TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE THAT.
11:07:04AM I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT FACTOR INTO YOUR EQUATIONS?
11:07:08AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: WE WON'T HAVE TO REPLACE THE WASTE TO
11:07:10AM ENERGY FACILITY IN 20 YEARS.
11:07:11AM THE RETROFIT NOW IS GIVING US THE LIFE TO ENSURE THAT WE
11:07:15AM HAVE IT FOR 20 YEARS MOVING FORWARD.
11:07:18AM WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE INITIATIVES TO MANAGE THE WASTE COMING
11:07:20AM IN.
11:07:20AM WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO TRY TO BUILD ANOTHER WASTE TO
11:07:23AM ENERGY FACILITY.
11:07:24AM WE CAN MANAGE THE WASTE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
11:07:26AM WE CAN TAKE THE FOOD WASTE.
11:07:28AM FOOD WASTE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IS AROUND 40% OF THE WASTE
11:07:31AM GENERATED.
11:07:31AM SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WHERE WE HAVE COMPOSTING
11:07:34AM PROGRAMS WHERE YOU CAN ELECT TO TAKE A CLASS AND THEN AFTER
11:07:37AM YOU FINISH THE CLASS WITH OUR DEPARTMENT, WE CAN GIVE YOU A
11:07:40AM COMPOSTING BIN SO YOU CAN TAKE THAT FOOD WASTE AND USE IT
11:07:43AM AND HAVE A NUTRIENT DENSE --
11:07:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET IT.
11:07:47AM REALISTICALLY, THOUGH, THAT FACILITY, IN 20 YEARS FROM NOW
11:07:51AM IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING VERY PRETTY.
11:07:54AM EVEN WITH ALL THE RUBBER BANDS AND BAND-AIDS WE PUT ON IT
11:07:58AM TODAY, IF WE DIDN'T INVEST IN THAT NOW, IT WOULD BE BROKEN
11:08:03AM TODAY.
11:08:03AM THOSE INVESTMENTS WE HAD TO MAKE TODAY THEY WERE IMMEDIATE.
11:08:07AM THEY NEEDED TO HAPPEN.
11:08:08AM THAT'S GOING TO GET US TO THAT 20-YEAR LIFE CYCLE.
11:08:13AM I'M JUST CURIOUS, AGAIN, WE'RE FINANCING THIS FOR 34.
11:08:16AM I ACTUALLY EXPECT -- I'LL BE DEAD.
11:08:20AM IN 20 YEARS SOMEBODY WILL COME HERE AND SAYING, OKAY, WE
11:08:24AM HAVE $14 MILLION IN DEBT ON SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HAVING TO
11:08:27AM REPLACE 20 YEARS INTO IT.
11:08:29AM I'M CURIOUS HOW THAT WILL FACTOR INTO OUR FINANCES.
11:08:32AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: THERE IS PERIODIC MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED
11:08:36AM WITH THE UPKEEP OF THE WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY.
11:08:38AM WE DON'T ANTICIPATE IT GOING DOWN COMPLETELY BLACK AT ALL.
11:08:41AM WE'LL CONTINUOUSLY ADD MORE MONEY TO THE WASTE TO ENERGY
11:08:45AM FACILITY.
11:08:45AM THE REASON WHY WE HAD A LARGE PROJECT NOW, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY
11:08:48AM RAN BY A CONTRACTOR.
11:08:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS A MESS.
11:08:53AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: THERE WERE CHALLENGES.
11:08:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ALL INHERITED A MESS.
11:08:58AM ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT.
11:09:00AM WHEN YOU COME BACK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME WAY, AGAIN, GIVE
11:09:03AM US THE OPTIONS BECAUSE AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN YOUR PROGRAMS
11:09:08AM WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF RESERVES, THE DOLLAR
11:09:11AM FIGURE AND HOW THAT FILLS IN THE GAP BETWEEN PROJECTED
11:09:13AM REVENUE ON YOUR CHARTS.
11:09:15AM THE IMPLICATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE ON INTEREST RATES AND WHAT
11:09:19AM OUR OPTIONS ARE AS FAR AS MAYBE STRETCHING THIS RATE
11:09:23AM INCREASE OVER MAYBE A COUPLE OF EXTRA YEARS SO IT ISN'T AS
11:09:27AM DRAMATIC EACH YEAR TO RISE THE WAY IT IS THERE.
11:09:30AM BECAUSE I HAVE TO EXPECT THAT AFTER THIS PARTICULAR RATE
11:09:33AM INCREASE IN FIVE YEARS, DEPENDING ON THE ECONOMY, THIS
11:09:36AM TRAJECTORY IS GOING TO CONTINUE ON.
11:09:38AM I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE CRYSTAL BALL THAT WAS NOT -- SAY
11:09:46AM THAT ISN'T TRUE.
11:09:48AM IF WE COULD FLATTEN THE CURVE, KNOWING IT WILL CONTINUE TO
11:09:53AM GO.
11:09:54AM IF WE COULD HAVE IT GO LIKE THIS, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE
11:09:57AM BETTER.
11:09:59AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: POINT OUT ONE ADDITIONAL THING AS WELL
11:10:01AM WITH THE NEW MISCELLANEOUS FEES, WE HOPE TO TRY TO CURB THAT
11:10:10AM SOME WITHIN OUR SERVICES.
11:10:11AM WE'RE NOT ADDING ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL SO WE CAN TRY TO CURB
11:10:15AM --
11:10:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVE MY 100% SUPPORT ON ADDITIONAL
11:10:18AM FEES AND THINGS YOU'RE DOING WITH COMMERCIAL AND ADDITIONAL
11:10:20AM FEES -- IN A BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT AND THE TYPE OF ENTERPRISE
11:10:25AM FUND THAT YOU'RE RUNNING, 100% SHAMEFUL THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN
11:10:29AM DOING THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
11:10:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:10:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:10:35AM THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
11:10:36AM I DON'T DISAGREE THAT IT SEEMS A LITTLE STEEP AND WE'VE
11:10:38AM TALKED ABOUT THIS.
11:10:39AM SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE.
11:10:43AM I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY WRITTEN DOWN THE ASSISTANCE COST TO
11:10:46AM THE GENERAL FUND.
11:10:48AM WHAT DO WE PREDICT THAT WILL BE AT LEAST IN THE FIRST COUPLE
11:10:51AM OF YEARS.
11:10:52AM YOU GAVE US MIAMI-DADE, BUT YOU SAID ABOUT OTHER CITIES
11:10:55AM DOING INCREASES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE WHAT
11:10:58AM WE KNOW THERE AND IF THEY ARE DOING IT OVER A MULTIYEAR
11:11:01AM PERIOD, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL.
11:11:03AM I'M GONNA SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE THIS IS MY HOBBY HORSE.
11:11:06AM I REALLY STILL WANT A PILOT PROJECT FOR ONCE A WEEK PICKUP.
11:11:12AM I THROW ONE 13-GALLON BAG OF GARBAGE AWAY A WEEK.
11:11:20AM IT'S NEVER FULL BECAUSE I USE COMPOSTING AND RECYCLING, AND
11:11:24AM I DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
11:11:26AM AGAIN, I WAS TRAINED TO DO THIS BECAUSE IN THE CITY I CAME
11:11:30AM FROM OR GREW UP IN, WE HAD TO THROW AWAY GARBAGE BASED ON
11:11:34AM HOW MUCH WE USED.
11:11:35AM I LIKE THE WAY THAT YOU'RE HEADING TOWARD THAT WITH THE
11:11:38AM EXTRA BIN, BUT I DON'T THINK THE EXTRA BIN COST IS ENOUGH.
11:11:42AM I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE REDUCING THE COST FOR PEOPLE WHO
11:11:45AM THROW AWAY LESS GARBAGE AND INCREASING THE COST FOR PEOPLE
11:11:48AM WHO THROW AWAY MORE.
11:11:49AM I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERY HUMAN BEING INHERENTLY
11:11:54AM UNDERSTANDS.
11:11:54AM I USE MORE.
11:11:55AM I PAY MORE.
11:11:56AM IT'S WHAT WE DO FOR WATER.
11:11:58AM IT'S WHAT WE DO FOR WASTEWATER.
11:12:01AM I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE BUILT-IN FEES.
11:12:02AM BUT I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO WANT MORE SERVICE SHOULD BE
11:12:06AM PAYING FOR MORE OF THOSE FEES.
11:12:08AM IF YOU WANT YOUR GARBAGE PICKED UP TWICE A WEEK, GREAT.
11:12:11AM THEN IN ADDITION, YOU SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THE ADDITIONAL
11:12:14AM COST TO DO THAT FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO WANT JUST ONCE A WEEK
11:12:18AM PICKUP, I THINK ABOUT THE FOLKS WHO LIVE BY THEMSELVES.
11:12:21AM OUR COMMUNITY IS JUST BECOMING VERY DIFFERENT.
11:12:24AM AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT A PILOT PROJECT.
11:12:26AM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ONE IN THE NEXT YEAR JUST TO SEE WHAT IT
11:12:29AM WOULD BE, EVEN IF IT IS A SMALL PORTION OF THE CITY, WHAT
11:12:32AM THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
11:12:33AM HOW MANY PEOPLE MIGHT BE INTERESTED.
11:12:34AM WHAT WE COULD DO RATE-WISE FOR THOSE FOLKS.
11:12:38AM AND THEN I ALSO KNOW THAT YOU'RE RETOOLING THE SWEEP PROGRAM
11:12:42AM WHICH SHOULD HELP WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
11:12:47AM I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HOW THAT WILL BE REDONE AND
11:12:51AM HOPEFULLY COSTS LESS IN THINGS PEOPLE THROW AWAY AND THE
11:12:56AM AMOUNT OF TRUCK AND LABOR COSTS THAT GO INTO THAT AS WELL.
11:13:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:13:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:13:04AM I AGREE WITH THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
11:13:06AM IF I DO THAT, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WILL BE BROKE IN 15 MINUTES.
11:13:11AM THE PHILOSOPHY IS GREAT, BUT WHEN YOU APPLY IT TO THE
11:13:14AM PRINCIPLE, HAVEN'T HAD A KID -- NONE OF MY CHILDREN WENT TO
11:13:17AM PUBLIC SCHOOL.
11:13:18AM I DID AND I LOVED IT.
11:13:19AM I WENT TO JEFFERSON.
11:13:22AM IF I DO THAT, THE MONEY I PAY INTO MY TAXES IS ELIMINATED
11:13:28AM FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM BECAUSE I HAVE NONE IN SCHOOL.
11:13:31AM YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
11:13:32AM IN A DEMOCRACY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VALUE OF SOMETHING TO BE
11:13:35AM -- I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT, THOUGH.
11:13:37AM I REALLY DO.
11:13:38AM I HATE TO TELL YOU THAT YOU WERE A SCHOOLTEACHER AND A GREAT
11:13:41AM ONE.
11:13:41AM I WISH YOU HAD SCHOOLTEACHERS LIKE YOURSELF AND MY GOOD
11:13:44AM FRIEND FROM DISTRICT 5 BECAUSE YOU BOTH ARE VERY GOOD
11:13:48AM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:13:49AM BUT WHAT I'M SAYING, I CANNOT USE THAT PHILOSOPHY BECAUSE IF
11:13:52AM IT DOES, IT DOES NOT WORK MATHEMATICALLY.
11:13:55AM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WOULD BE BROKE IN 15 MINUTES.
11:13:58AM NOT THAT THEY ARE NOT BROKE NOW.
11:14:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
11:14:03AM YES, MA'AM.
11:14:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.
11:14:06AM IT IS A CATCH-22 BECAUSE IN THE SINGLE-STYLE FAMILY
11:14:11AM HOUSEHOLD WHERE YOU DON'T UTILIZE A LOT OF TRASH BUT YOUR
11:14:16AM NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR DOES, SO THE GAS AND COST TO BE OUT THERE
11:14:21AM ALREADY EXISTS.
11:14:21AM SO THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
11:14:23AM YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GET AROUND THAT.
11:14:25AM ONE NEIGHBOR WANTS IT.
11:14:26AM ONE NEIGHBOR DOESN'T.
11:14:27AM STILL OUT THERE ANYWAY.
11:14:28AM MIGHT AS WELL PICK IT UP BECAUSE IT IS JUST THERE.
11:14:31AM I DON'T SEE HOW WE COULD ELIMINATE THAT AND THEN WHEN YOU
11:14:34AM LOOK AT THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, MOST OF THEM HAVE TWICE A
11:14:41AM WEEK PICKUP.
11:14:42AM I THINK THERE IS A SENSE OF NORMALCY IN THAT AND IT'S NOT A
11:14:46AM NECESSARY CHANGE BECAUSE YOU'RE PRESENTING HOW THROUGH THIS
11:14:50AM ENTERPRISE BUSINESS, FACTORING IN THE COST WHERE WE CAN
11:14:53AM STILL PROVIDE THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE.
11:14:55AM IF YOU DO SPECIAL PICKUPS TWICE A WEEK IS FALLING INTO THE
11:15:00AM SAME CATEGORY FOR ME.
11:15:02AM IT'S ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE AS WELL.
11:15:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
11:15:08AM I DON'T SUPPORT THAT, BY THE WAY.
11:15:09AM I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
11:15:14AM THERE IS A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EXPECTATION.
11:15:17AM ALSO CLEANLINESS INVOLVED WITH TRASH BLOWING AROUND.
11:15:20AM THAT'S ALMOST SAYING I ONLY FLUSH THE TOILET TWICE A DAY.
11:15:24AM TAKE THE WASTEWATER OUT X AMOUNT OF TIME.
11:15:28AM IT'S A BASIC LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT IS EXPECTED.
11:15:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DO THAT.
11:15:36AM ONCE A WEEK, THEY THROW TRASH AWAY ONCE A WEEK.
11:15:40AM IN FLORIDA IT WORKS.
11:15:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT IN TAMPA.
11:15:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHY I WANT A PILOT.
11:15:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RIGHT NOW I THINK IF YOU DID IT, CUSTOMER
11:15:48AM SERVICE -- AMOUNT OF DAYS THEY WOULD WANT TWO DAYS.
11:15:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY.
11:15:54AM IT IS FASCINATING.
11:15:55AM THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU HEARD AT YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT MEETINGS.
11:15:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PUBLIC COMMENT --
11:15:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY HAD MEETINGS.
11:16:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SURVEY.
11:16:01AM 400,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:16:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THE PEOPLE AT THAT MEETING, QUITE A FEW
11:16:07AM OF THEM SAID THEY WANTED MORE.
11:16:12AM SOME PEOPLE WANTED MORE SERVICE AND SOME PEOPLE WANTED LESS
11:16:16AM SERVICE.
11:16:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP HERE?
11:16:22AM WILL YOU COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL THAT SHOWS DIFFERENT
11:16:26AM OPTIONS?
11:16:26AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN BROUGHT UP A VERY VALID POINT,
11:16:30AM INSTEAD OF SUCH A BIG IMPACT IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME
11:16:34AM CAN WE SPACE IT OUT?
11:16:35AM WE DIDN'T DO A RATE INCREASE FOR A DECADE, SO WE'VE BEEN
11:16:39AM VERY GENEROUS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN EATING THE COST.
11:16:41AM AGAIN, IF I COULD GO BACK IN TIME, I WOULD SAY 50 CENTS
11:16:45AM MORE, DOLLAR MORE BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
11:16:48AM HELP US CATCH UP.
11:16:49AM WILL YOU BE COMING BACK WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS PRICE-WISE,
11:16:52AM INCREASE-WISE FOR THE CONSUMER?
11:16:56AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, WE'LL COME BACK JUNE 6 AND WE CAN COME
11:16:59AM BACK WITH DIFFERENT SCENARIOS FOR YOU.
11:17:00AM I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH BOTH THE
11:17:04AM PROS AND CONS.
11:17:06AM BECAUSE, AGAIN, ANY DEVIATION WILL HAVE A REACTION,
11:17:12AM POSITIVE, NEGATIVE.
11:17:14AM AGAIN, WE ALWAYS WANT COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC TO SEE THE
11:17:16AM WHOLE PICTURE.
11:17:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I EXPECTED.
11:17:21AM IF YOU CAME BACK WITH X AMOUNT OF RATE INCREASE OVER X
11:17:24AM AMOUNT OF TIME, WHAT IMPACT THAT HAS ON RESERVES, WHAT
11:17:27AM IMPACT THAT HAS ON INTEREST RATES.
11:17:29AM ON SERVICE DELIVERY, ALL THE PROS AND CONS.
11:17:33AM YOUR RIGHT.
11:17:34AM PUSH HERE AND PULL THERE.
11:17:36AM I'D EXPECT THAT.
11:17:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU LOOK AT THE SAME PROJECT --
11:17:42AM [MICROPHONE NOT ON] -- [INAUDIBLE] -- THE INTEREST EQUALS
11:17:52AM TWO ALMOST THE SUMS OF THE PROJECT.
11:17:53AM SO IF YOU HAD MONEY, 50 CENTS A MONTH SOMEWHERE, YOUR BOTTOM
11:17:58AM LINE OF 248 WOULD INCREASE BY THOSE SUMS.
11:18:02AM AND YOU WOULD GET MORE BUCK.
11:18:03AM THAT'S WHAT THE PIPES PROJECT.
11:18:05AM THE PIPES PROJECT I BELIEVE IS 53% PAID FOR BY CASH AND 47%
11:18:11AM LATER ON.
11:18:12AM IF NOT, YOU DON'T GET 100% OF YOUR PROJECT DONE.
11:18:15AM YOU ONLY GET 50% OF YOUR PROJECT DONE BECAUSE THE OTHER
11:18:18AM MONEY YOU PAID IN INTEREST.
11:18:19AM THAT'S IT.
11:18:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEE YOU JUNE 6.
11:18:26AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:18:27AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:18:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM?
11:18:30AM YES, SIR.
11:18:30AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:18:37AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
11:18:39AM SOHO BUSINESS ALLIANCE.
11:18:41AM WE'VE SPOKEN TO SOLID WASTE ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES.
11:18:44AM THE SOHO DISTRICT IS UNDER A CONTRACT HAULER.
11:18:48AM AND WE FREQUENTLY HAVE PROBLEMS.
11:18:50AM AS YOU KNOW, THOSE RESTAURANTS ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO
11:18:54AM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
11:18:55AM SO IF WE END UP HAVING A MISSED PICKUP, IT IS CATASTROPHIC.
11:18:59AM IT'S NOT JUST AN INCONVENIENCE.
11:19:02AM THE FOOD WASTE AND ALL THAT THAT GOES INTO THE DUMPSTERS.
11:19:06AM SO I'M THANKFUL FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE I END UP
11:19:11AM HAVING TO CALL STEVE SWAN TO COME IN.
11:19:16AM USUALLY HAPPENS ON A FRIDAY BEFORE A HOLIDAY WEEKEND WHERE
11:19:19AM THEY HAVE MISSED PICKUPS AND THE GARBAGE IS COMING OUT OF
11:19:21AM THE TOP AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE ALL UPSET.
11:19:24AM AND UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:19:24AM THE GENERAL REQUEST HAS BEEN OVER SEVERAL YEARS TO TAKE THAT
11:19:29AM DISTRICT OUT OF THE CONTRACT HAULER AND TO PUT IT INTO THE
11:19:33AM CITY DISTRICT.
11:19:35AM I UNDERSTAND FROM THE FINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO
11:19:38AM YOU I'M NOT SURE HOW THE CONTRACT HAULERS INTERFACE WITH
11:19:42AM WHAT THE CITY IS TALKING ABOUT.
11:19:43AM THAT IS A REQUEST THAT'S COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.
11:19:49AM IT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO SOLID WASTE.
11:19:50AM IT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.
11:19:53AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN IN THAT REGARD.
11:19:57AM BUT IT ALSO INVOLVES CAPITAL EXPENDITURES FOR ROLLING STOCK
11:20:01AM OF EQUIPMENT THAT THE CITY MAY NOT HAVE.
11:20:04AM IT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT.
11:20:08AM HOWEVER, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN AT LEAST SOME
11:20:12AM REPORT ON HOW THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED.
11:20:15AM THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS, THE FREQUENCY OF PICKUPS FOR
11:20:21AM COMMERCIAL IS EVERY DAY.
11:20:24AM AND THERE ARE SAFETY -- HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE ISSUES
11:20:28AM THAT ARE NEGOTIATED WITH IT.
11:20:31AM I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS AND VERMIN AND
11:20:35AM STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS HEALTH CONCERNS
11:20:38AM REGARDING THOSE PICKUPS.
11:20:40AM AND WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS THE CITY HAS DISPATCHED A
11:20:45AM SMALLER TRUCK AND THEY HAVE HAND LOADED THE GARBAGE OUT OF
11:20:47AM THE DUMPSTERS INTO THE SMALLER TRUCKS TO HELP PREVENT THOSE
11:20:52AM KINDS OF PROBLEMS.
11:20:53AM IT WASN'T JUST THIS CONTRACT HAULER THAT WE'VE HAD ISSUES
11:20:58AM WITH.
11:20:59AM IT'S EACH OF THE OTHER SUCCESSIVE HAULERS THAT WE'VE HAD IN
11:21:04AM THE PAST.
11:21:05AM I REQUEST YOU LOOK INTO THAT OR AT LEAST HAVE SOLID WASTE
11:21:07AM COME BACK AND REPORT AS PART OF THEIR REPORT IN JUNE.
11:21:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:16AM >> HI.
11:21:17AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:21:18AM I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE PEOPLE WHO
11:21:22AM MOVE HERE NEED TO BE PAYING FOR IMPACT.
11:21:26AM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE SHOULD NOT BE PAYING FOR THAT.
11:21:30AM I HEAR, OH, IT WILL RAISE THE COST OF HOUSING.
11:21:35AM WELL, IT'S LIKE, SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS, THEY TALK ABOUT
11:21:39AM THE CONTAINERS ARE $55 EACH.
11:21:42AM THEY TALK ABOUT THE 8 YARD CONTAINER FOR COMMERCIAL IS 1580.
11:21:47AM THE NEW TRUCKS ARE HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.
11:21:49AM IF YOU HAVE AN INCREASE IN UNITS, THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY
11:21:55AM FOR THE ADDITIONAL CONTAINERS.
11:21:57AM IN OTHER WORDS, IF SOMEONE SELLS A HOUSE, THERE'S ALREADY A
11:22:00AM CONTAINER THERE.
11:22:01AM IT'S NO BIG DEAL.
11:22:02AM BUT I AM FAMILIAR WITH A LOT WHERE THERE WAS ONE HOUSE.
11:22:06AM NOW THEY ARE BUILDING SIX HOUSES.
11:22:08AM SO THAT'S TEN ADDITIONAL CONTAINERS AT $55 EACH.
11:22:14AM THOSE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE BUYING A NEW UNIT SHOULD HAVE TO
11:22:20AM PAY THE TWO $55 CONTAINERS.
11:22:23AM WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR IT?
11:22:25AM BECAUSE THEY ARE INCREASING MY FEES BECAUSE THE CONTAINERS
11:22:30AM COST $55 EACH AND THEY ARE PUTTING OUT A THOUSAND NEW ONES
11:22:33AM EACH MONTH.
11:22:34AM IF IT IS A NEW UNIT, YOU PAY FOR IT.
11:22:36AM A NEW BUSINESS THAT DIDN'T EXIST THERE BEFORE AND NOW NEED A
11:22:40AM COMMERCIAL CONTAINER, THEY SHOULD PAY THE $1600 FOR THEIR
11:22:43AM CONTAINER.
11:22:43AM THESE ARE START-UP COSTS FOR NEW.
11:22:45AM IF THERE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HAS FOUR UNITS AND NOW
11:22:48AM THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD 12 AND NEED MORE COMMERCIAL
11:22:51AM CONTAINERS, BIGGER ONE, WHATEVER, THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY
11:22:54AM THE START-UP COSTS.
11:22:55AM WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT THROUGH OUR INCREASE IN OUR
11:23:00AM RESIDENTIAL.
11:23:03AM THE SECOND TRIP.
11:23:04AM I THINK WE SHOULD CHARGE WHAT IT COSTS, THE $125.
11:23:07AM WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS WHEN SOMEONE CALLS AND SAYS, OH,
11:23:11AM YOU MISSED ME, TELL THEM, OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK AND PICK IT
11:23:14AM UP, BUT WE DO TAKE VIDEO WHICH WILL BE REVIEWED AND WHEN THE
11:23:18AM VIDEO IS REVIEWED, IF IT TURNS OUT THE CONTAINER WAS NOT
11:23:21AM PRESENT DURING THE FIRST, YOU WILL BE CHARGED $125.
11:23:24AM THAT WILL BE A DETERRENT IN AND OF ITSELF.
11:23:27AM PEOPLE WILL STOP CALLING BECAUSE THEY REALIZE THE VIDEO IS
11:23:30AM GOING TO SHOW I MISSED MY PICKUP AND NOW I'LL GET $125,
11:23:34AM THEY'LL STOP CALLING.
11:23:36AM THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO REVIEW EVERY VIDEO.
11:23:38AM INSTEAD OF A STICK ABOUT INCREASED RATES FOR TWICE A PICK,
11:23:45AM HOW ABOUT A PILOT PROGRAM THAT OFFERS A DISCOUNT IF YOU WANT
11:23:47AM TO OPT FOR ONCE A WEEK.
11:23:49AM NOT SAYING IT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO BUT MAYBE LOOK INTO IT.
11:23:53AM THERE'S TIME AND LABOR INVOLVED THAT IS A SAVINGS.
11:23:58AM THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKED INTO.
11:24:00AM ANOTHER THING ABOUT CHARLIE'S PHILOSOPHY OF SCHOOLS, I THINK
11:24:05AM IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IF YOU NEVER HAVE CHILDREN,
11:24:08AM YOU STILL BENEFIT FROM AN EDUCATED SOCIETY.
11:24:11AM EVERYBODY SHOULD BE PAYING FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
11:24:13AM AND BUSINESSES, WHEN THEY LOOK TO RELOCATE, WHAT IS THE
11:24:18AM QUALITY OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS?
11:24:18AM I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
11:24:21AM A CARROT INSTEAD OF A STICK, A DISCOUNT FOR MAYBE ONCE A
11:24:25AM WEEK INSTEAD OF --
11:24:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:27AM YES, MA'AM.
11:24:27AM GOOD MORNING.
11:24:28AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:24:29AM >> ALISON DATE.
11:24:31AM DO YOU NEED AN ADDRESS?
11:24:33AM SWORN IN?
11:24:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, YOU'RE GOOD.
11:24:36AM >> I JUST WANT TO BE SURE BECAUSE I ALWAYS FORGET THAT.
11:24:39AM WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, THERE WAS A PROTEST AGAINST DOING
11:24:42AM THIS FOR ECOLOGICAL REASONS BY SIERRA CLUB.
11:24:47AM I WENT TO ONE OF THE PROTESTS.
11:24:48AM I'M JUST SAYING THAT.
11:24:50AM AND THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS KIND OF ENERGY BECAUSE,
11:24:55AM YES, IT BURNS EVERYTHING BUT IT ALSO BURNS THINGS THAT
11:24:58AM SHOULDN'T BE BURNED THAT COULD BE RECYCLED ANOTHER WAY OR
11:25:04AM REUSED ANOTHER WAY OR GOTTEN RID OF ANOTHER WAY.
11:25:08AM BUT THERE IS TOXIC WASTE PRODUCED AND ALSO CO2 IS PRODUCED
11:25:19AM FROM THIS.
11:25:20AM THESE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT.
11:25:22AM I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO ALL THOSE DETAILS.
11:25:25AM BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE A GOOD EFFORT
11:25:30AM AT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HOW MUCH RECYCLING, BECAUSE WHEN
11:25:35AM EVERYBODY THINKS PLASTIC IS BEING RECYCLED, IT'S NOT BEING
11:25:39AM RECYCLED, BUT REUSING, LIKE SOME OF THE -- THERE ISN'T AN
11:25:44AM EFFORT TO MAKE COMPOST.
11:25:47AM WE SHOULD BE COLLECTING THE FOOD WASTE.
11:25:49AM WE SHOULD BE COLLECTING THE GARDEN WASTE AND PUTTING IT BACK
11:25:52AM INTO THE GROUND.
11:25:54AM WE REALLY NEED TO BE DOING THAT.
11:25:55AM IN SOME PLACES THEY DO THAT.
11:25:57AM WHEN YOU DO IT ON A REALLY BIG SCALE, IT GETS REALLY, REALLY
11:26:00AM HOT, AND IT CAN REALLY WORK VERY, VERY WELL.
11:26:04AM YOU CAN SELL IT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD
11:26:06AM THING TO DO.
11:26:07AM AND ALSO, I THINK IN ALL OF THIS, WE NEED TO EDUCATE THE
11:26:12AM PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW.
11:26:15AM I'M WALKING AND RIDING MY BIKE ALL THE TIME.
11:26:18AM EVERYBODY STILL THROWS GARBAGE OUT OF THEIR CAR OR WHEN THEY
11:26:22AM ARE WALKING ALONG, THEY THROW ONE LITTLE PIECE, WELL, THAT
11:26:26AM ADDS UP.
11:26:27AM I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THINGS THEY COULD DO
11:26:33AM AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.
11:26:34AM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DEALING WITH THIS, THE WASTE MANAGEMENT,
11:26:41AM REALLY NEED SOME SUPPORT FROM THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING THESE
11:26:46AM THINGS.
11:26:46AM MORE EDUCATION, WHICH I DON'T THINK THE CITY DOES A GOOD JOB
11:26:52AM ON.
11:26:52AM WE DON'T LET PEOPLE KNOW.
11:26:53AM AND SOMETIMES HAVING FINES AND MAYBE THEY'LL START USING
11:26:58AM THEIR RECYCLING BINS MORE IF THEY HAVE TO PAY A HIGHER RATE
11:27:04AM FOR HAVING MORE THAN ONE GARBAGE CAN.
11:27:07AM THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
11:27:08AM ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
11:27:10AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:11AM YES, MA'AM.
11:27:12AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:27:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:27:15AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:27:17AM MAN, I KEEP GETTING TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET TODAY.
11:27:21AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID SOMETIME IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
11:27:24AM WEEKS SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOLID WASTE IS AN
11:27:27AM ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENT.
11:27:28AM WELL, IT'S SUPPOSED TO MAKE MONEY.
11:27:32AM THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE ARE PULLING FUNDS FROM THE
11:27:35AM GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR GARBAGE PICKUP AT THIS POINT.
11:27:39AM THAT'S REALITY.
11:27:41AM I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY VERY FAVORITE EXAMPLE BECAUSE I'LL
11:27:45AM HARP ON THIS UNTIL THE DAY I DIE BECAUSE IT WAS SO ANNOYING.
11:27:49AM WE GAVE $5.5 MILLION OF ARPA MONEY TO SOLID WASTE.
11:27:54AM SOLID WASTE IS SUPPOSED TO KEEP THEIR OWN MONEY IN THEIR OWN
11:27:57AM POCKET.
11:27:58AM THAT MONEY WAS FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THAT
11:28:02AM MONEY NEVER GOT TO HOUSING.
11:28:06AM IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO HOUSING, SHOULD HAVE GONE TO
11:28:09AM HOUSING.
11:28:09AM WHEN MR. WASHINGTON AND HIS FRIENDS HAVE THEIR MONEY BACK,
11:28:12AM I'D STILL LIKE TO SEE IT GO TO HOUSING.
11:28:14AM YOU KNOW WHY?
11:28:15AM WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD GO TO HOUSING.
11:28:17AM I'M SORRY, SOLID WASTE.
11:28:20AM I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, EVERY PLACE I EVER LIVED
11:28:25AM HAD GARBAGE PICK UP ONE DAY A WEEK.
11:28:28AM I VERY RARELY HAVE A FULL GARBAGE CAN FOR THE TWO DAYS A
11:28:33AM WEEK.
11:28:34AM AND WHEN I DEAL WITH ALL THE MILITARY FOLKS WHO COME HERE
11:28:37AM FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD AND PLACE THEM IN HOUSING HERE, THEY
11:28:41AM SAY WHAT DAY IS GARBAGE DAY?
11:28:43AM I TELL THEM TUESDAYS AND FRIDAYS.
11:28:45AM AND THEY GO, WHAT?
11:28:46AM ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
11:28:47AM BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE A DIFFERENT PLANET TO MOST PEOPLE.
11:28:53AM IT'S THE EXCEPTION, NOT THE NORM.
11:28:55AM I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
11:28:57AM THE LACK OF AUTOMATIC INCREASES IS A CITYWIDE ISSUE, NOT
11:29:03AM JUST SOLID WASTE.
11:29:04AM I'VE COME UP HERE THREE TIMES IN A ROW TODAY TALKING ABOUT
11:29:07AM HOW WE HAVEN'T INCREASED OUR FEES AND HOW WE OPERATE IN A
11:29:11AM DEFICIT, WHICH WAS THE PATH SET FORTH BY THE PREVIOUS
11:29:16AM ADMINISTRATION.
11:29:17AM THAT'S NOT THIS ADMINISTRATION'S ISSUE.
11:29:19AM IT IS THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION SAID WE'RE NOT RAISING
11:29:21AM FEES FOR ANYTHING.
11:29:22AM WELL, HERE IS THE PROBLEM.
11:29:24AM NOW WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION WE
11:29:26AM WANT, TO HAVE THE HOUSING WE WANT, TO HAVE THE STAFF THAT WE
11:29:30AM NEED IN ORDER TO PROVIDE GOOD SERVICES.
11:29:32AM SO UNTIL WE GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW, AS A MATTER OF FACT,
11:29:38AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON GAVE THE EXACT SAME EXAMPLE.
11:29:41AM SHE SAID, LOOK, THE CONVENTION CENTER MAKES MONEY.
11:29:44AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
11:29:45AM THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS A PLAN LAID OUT FOR WHAT THEIR
11:29:48AM FEES WILL BE FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS.
11:29:51AM WHEN THIS PRESENTATION WAS PRESENTED TO THE BUDGET
11:29:54AM COMMITTEE, I ASKED, WHERE ARE WE GOING AFTER '26 OR '27?
11:29:58AM IT ONLY GOES OUT A COUPLE OF YEARS.
11:30:00AM WHY AREN'T WE DOING THIS ANNUALLY?
11:30:02AM EVERY TIME A BUDGET ITEM COMES BEFORE YOU GUYS, THERE IS A
11:30:05AM CPI INCREASE ATTACHED TO IT.
11:30:08AM VERY RARELY IS THERE NOT.
11:30:10AM WHY IS THE CITY NOT FOLLOWING THE SAME PROCEDURES IN ORDER
11:30:13AM TO CHARGE FOR THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING GIVEN.
11:30:17AM I'M NOT SAYING ROB ANYBODY.
11:30:18AM I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO HAVE REASONABLE INCREASES INSTEAD
11:30:22AM OF OPERATING IN A HOLE.
11:30:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:30:24AM WHEN WE MAKE THE MOTION FOR THE FOLKS TO COME BACK, CAN WE
11:30:29AM DO FOR JUNE 20 INSTEAD OF JUNE 6 BECAUSE IT IS A VERY, VERY
11:30:34AM FULL AGENDA.
11:30:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, COUNCIL, BEFORE YOU GET UP THERE
11:30:39AM -- YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY.
11:30:40AM BEFORE YOU SPEAK, I JUST WANT TO INFORM COUNCIL THAT HAS
11:30:44AM ALREADY BEEN PLACED ON THE JUNE 6 CALENDAR THROUGH OnBase
11:30:49AM AND IT IS GOING TO SHOW UP A RESOLUTION FOR CONSIDERATION ON
11:30:53AM YOUR CONSENT DOCK.
11:30:54AM THAT'S HOW IT IS CURRENTLY AGENDAED.
11:30:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:30:56AM WE'LL LEAVE IT AS IS.
11:30:59AM IT WAS A REQUEST FROM THE CLERK.
11:31:01AM NO MOTION NEEDS TO BE MADE.
11:31:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:31:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW IT WILL BE
11:31:06AM COMING FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ON JUNE 6.
11:31:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 6 IS WHEN WE WILL BE VISITING THIS
11:31:12AM UNDER OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
11:31:13AM IT'S A REGULAR MEETING.
11:31:14AM WE WILL SEE YOU THEN.
11:31:15AM HOW EXCITING.
11:31:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:17AM NEXT -- YES, MA'AM.
11:31:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE SOMETHING, THANK YOU.
11:31:22AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:31:24AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:31:25AM IS THIS THE TYPE OF PUBLIC COMMENT SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN
11:31:30AM RESPOND?
11:31:31AM NOT NECESSARILY, I WANT THE PUBLIC WHO IS LISTENING TO HEAR
11:31:37AM AFTER A PUBLIC COMMENT REGARD -- MR. WASHINGTON, I WANT YOU
11:31:41AM BACK UP HERE SO YOU CAN ADDRESS THIS.
11:31:43AM LET ME FIND MY WORDS.
11:31:45AM BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, ATTEND STAFF MEETINGS AND LEARN AND
11:31:51AM GROW, I WANT MS. POYNOR'S COMMENT TO BE ADDRESSED FROM THE
11:31:54AM STANDPOINT OF WHAT I LEARNED WHEN I QUESTIONED THE BOTTOM
11:31:59AM LINE OF WHY SOLID WASTE IS NOT PROFITABLE.
11:32:01AM YOU EXPLAINED THAT TO ME VERY THOROUGHLY YESTERDAY IN OUR
11:32:05AM STAFF MEETING.
11:32:06AM JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT, WHY
11:32:10AM THAT LOSS APPEARS FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, I THINK IT WAS,
11:32:14AM WHERE IT SHOWED AS A LOSS BUT PRIOR TO THAT WE WERE
11:32:17AM PROFITABLE AS AN ENTERPRISE BUSINESS AND WITH THE INCREASES
11:32:21AM IN FEES, WE CAN BE THAT WAY AGAIN.
11:32:23AM CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?
11:32:26AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: SIMPLY PUT, WE ACQUIRE THE WASTE TO
11:32:28AM ENERGY FACILITY.
11:32:29AM UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS IN DIRE CONDITION AND WE NEEDED TO
11:32:31AM MAKE A CHANGE.
11:32:33AM GOING BACK TO THE WASTE TO ENERGY RETROFIT, IF WE HAD TO
11:32:37AM HAUL ALL THE WASTE FROM OUR TRUCKS FROM TRANSFER STATION
11:32:41AM OVER TO WIMAUMA, WHICH IS THE LAND FILL THAT WE PARTNER WITH
11:32:44AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WITH, IT WOULD COST US 40 MILLION PER
11:32:48AM YEAR.
11:32:48AM OF COURSE, INCREASING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS WELL.
11:32:50AM SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ACQUIRED THE WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY.
11:32:55AM THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A DECREASE IN THE AMOUNT -- INCREASE IN
11:33:00AM EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, UPWARDS
11:33:04AM TO 50 PLUS, AND THEN CLEARLY WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE
11:33:08AM FACILITY.
11:33:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT ALWAYS HASN'T LOOKED LIKE THAT.
11:33:12AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: NO, IT HAS NOT.
11:33:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANTED CLARIFICATION BECAUSE IT IS A BIG
11:33:15AM NUMBER, THE DEFICIT IS LARGE AND I WANT THE PUBLIC TO
11:33:18AM UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY CLEARLY, AND I APPRECIATE YOU
11:33:21AM EXPLAINING THAT.
11:33:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:33:22AM YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
11:33:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I RAISE AN ISSUE FOR COUNCIL ABOUT
11:33:27AM TONIGHT'S MEETING, IF I CAN COME TO THE LECTERN, PLEASE.
11:33:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:33:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO MINUTES OF YOUR TIME.
11:33:40AM COUNCIL, MY APOLOGIES TO YOU AND THE PUBLIC FOR
11:33:55AM INTERPRETING.
11:33:56AM I WILL BE BRIEF, BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE A REQUEST BY THE
11:33:58AM ADMINISTRATION FOR A WALK-ON THAT IS GOING TO APPEAR ON YOUR
11:34:02AM AGENDA TONIGHT AT THE START OF YOUR 5:00 MEETING.
11:34:06AM THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO SET A SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING THAT
11:34:09AM IS REQUIRED AS PART OF THE PROCESS FOR PLACING THE COMMUNITY
11:34:14AM INVESTMENT TAX REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT.
11:34:17AM SO RATHER THAN GET INTO IT, I WANT TO ASK YOU, I'VE BEEN
11:34:21AM LOOKING AND WORKING WITH YOURSELVES AND YOUR STAFF REGARDING
11:34:24AM THE SCHEDULE AND THE BEST TIME TO SET THAT IS BETWEEN THE
11:34:28AM CRA MEETING AND THE 5:00 MEETING ON THURSDAY, THE 13th OF
11:34:35AM JUNE.
11:34:35AM NOW I'M TOLD LOOKING AT YOUR CRA AGENDA THAT YOUR CRA SHOULD
11:34:42AM BE DONE BY 12:30 P.M.
11:34:44AM COUNCIL CAN EITHER SET THE CRA -- EXCUSE ME, THE SPECIAL
11:34:48AM CALLED MEETING FOR THE CIT EITHER AT 1:00 OR 2:00 DEPENDING
11:34:52AM ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO TAKE LUNCH FIRST OR LUNCH AFTER.
11:34:56AM OF COURSE, YOU'LL HAVE A 5:00 MEETING.
11:34:58AM THAT IS THE BEST DAY THIS IS AVAILABLE.
11:35:00AM I WONDER IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBER -- I ALREADY, BY THE WAY, WAS
11:35:03AM ABLE TO CLEAR THAT WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S OFFICE.
11:35:06AM HE'S AVAILABLE THAT TIME TOO.
11:35:09AM HOPEFULLY YOU ARE.
11:35:09AM EACH OF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT ON THE OTHER AVAILABLE DATES.
11:35:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GOOD.
11:35:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST
11:35:19AM -- I KNOW WE ARE BUSY ON THE 6, THAT A MEMBER OF THE
11:35:22AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSION AND BODY-WISE, THE
11:35:25AM ADMINISTRATOR APPEAR JUNE 6, 2024, PROVIDE A PRESENTATION ON
11:35:30AM -- HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX.
11:35:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, BECAUSE I
11:35:37AM WASN'T AWARE.
11:35:39AM I WAS INFORMED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE COMING AT THE
11:35:43AM SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING.
11:35:44AM IF I CAN JUST HOLD MY COMMENTS.
11:35:46AM IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO SOMETHING BEING SET EITHER THE
11:35:49AM 6th OR THE 13th?
11:35:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE AN OBJECTION WITH JUNE 6.
11:35:53AM WE HAVE LIKE 18 ITEMS ON THAT AGENDA.
11:35:55AM I DON'T WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO JUNE 6.
11:35:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOMETHING WILL HAVE TO BE SET.
11:36:01AM JUNE 6 IS TOO SOON TO BE ABLE TO HAVE --
11:36:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M NOT THRILLED WITH THE JUNE --
11:36:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN --
11:36:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I TALKED TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND
11:36:12AM EVIDENTLY SOMEBODY ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION I WOULD ASSUME
11:36:16AM --
11:36:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE PURPOSES OF WHAT I'M ASKING ON THE
11:36:20AM BASIS -- I'M NOT REQUESTING THIS.
11:36:22AM THE ADMINISTRATION ISN'T REQUESTING THIS.
11:36:28AM THE COUNTY ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT EACH TAXING DISTRICT,
11:36:30AM WHICH ARE THE THREE MUNICIPALITIES, THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE
11:36:32AM COUNTY HAVE A -- WITHIN THEIR ORDINANCE A PUBLIC HEARING, AN
11:36:38AM ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING TO SEEK INPUT AS PART OF THE
11:36:41AM PROCESS TO GET THIS ON THE BALLOT.
11:36:42AM THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO BE WALKED ON.
11:36:44AM MY SUGGESTION TO YOU -- LET ME JUST -- RATHER THAN HAVE THIS
11:36:48AM DISCUSSION NOW, IF THAT TIME, IF NOT THE 6th, THEN THE
11:36:52AM 13th BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND
11:36:55AM STAFF COME IN AT 5:00 WITH THE WALK-ON.
11:36:58AM THEN YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTIONS.
11:36:59AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TIME, NOW THAT I HAVE YOU ALL HERE
11:37:02AM IS ACCEPTABLE.
11:37:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE TIME WORKS.
11:37:04AM MY QUESTION IS BETWEEN NOW AND THIS EVENING, CAN WE FIND OUT
11:37:07AM WITH BONNIE WISE AND THE COUNTY IF THEY ARE GOOD WITH JUNE
11:37:09AM 13th?
11:37:14AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
11:37:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID I SAY ANYTHING --
11:37:20AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YOU SAID NOTHING WRONG.
11:37:22AM I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON JUNE 6 VERSUS
11:37:25AM JUNE 13.
11:37:26AM I BELIEVE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND A COMMISSIONER WANTED
11:37:32AM TO COME AND JUST SORT OF BRIEFLY ADVISE COUNCIL WHAT YOU'RE
11:37:38AM BEING ASKED TO DO.
11:37:41AM THE THOUGHT WAS AND PLANT CITY APPARENTLY DID IT THIS WAY,
11:37:46AM IS THEY FIRST HAD JUST A SHORT BRIEFING FROM THE COUNTY
11:37:51AM COMMISSIONER AND STAFF PERSON, WHICH IS WHAT CHARLIE IS
11:37:57AM PROPOSING, SORRY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA I BELIEVE IS MAKING A
11:37:59AM MOTION FOR ON JUNE 6.
11:38:01AM AND THEN YOU FOLLOW THAT --
11:38:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH JUNE 13.
11:38:05AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WITH JUNE 13 WOULD BE THE ACTUAL MEETING
11:38:08AM WHERE YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED LIST WHICH WILL
11:38:12AM BE ON FILE IN ADVANCE, LOOKING AT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT,
11:38:15AM ACTUALLY MAKING DECISIONS, BUT NOT BEING HIT WITH IT ALL
11:38:19AM COLD ON THE 13th.
11:38:21AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
11:38:22AM I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE CONFUSED BY THAT.
11:38:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN YOU SAY BRIEF PRESENTATION, LIKE
11:38:27AM PLANT CITY AND EVERYBODY ELSE YOU MENTIONED, HOW LONG DO YOU
11:38:29AM THINK THEY WILL BE SPEAKING IF THEY COME JUNE 6?
11:38:32AM TEN-MINUTE OR HOUR-LONG --
11:38:34AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NO, NO.
11:38:36AM I THINK LIKE A TEN-MINUTE THING.
11:38:38AM I THINK IF WE ASK THEM TO, THEY WOULD WAIT AND COME ON JUNE
11:38:42AM 1.
11:38:43AM THE JUNE 6 OFFER WAS REALLY A COURTESY TO COUNCIL AND TO THE
11:38:47AM PUBLIC TO HEAR ON JUNE 6 WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO DO
11:38:50AM ON JUNE 13.
11:38:51AM THAT PART IS UP TO YOU.
11:38:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND COUNCIL MEMBER
11:38:57AM CLENDENIN.
11:38:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE JUNE 6 FOR MANY
11:39:00AM REASONS.
11:39:00AM IF THEY ARE COMING TO US, IT SHOULD BE IN OnBase.
11:39:05AM WHATEVER THEY ARE PRESENTING SHOULD BE THERE ALREADY FOR US
11:39:07AM TO REVIEW BECAUSE GETTING STUFF TO US COLD IS NOT USEFUL.
11:39:12AM THE PROBLEM IS ALSO THAT WE ARE A CHATTY GROUP.
11:39:21AM YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT FOR TEN MINUTES AND
11:39:24AM GO AWAY.
11:39:25AM WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
11:39:26AM I KNOW US.
11:39:27AM THAT'S WHO WE ARE.
11:39:28AM THE ONLY WAY THAT I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT IS IF WE TOOK
11:39:32AM ONE OF THE 15 STAFF REPORTS OR THREE COMMENDATIONS AND MOVED
11:39:36AM THEM.
11:39:36AM SO MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AT LUNCH AND COME BACK AT THE
11:39:41AM EVENING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S POSSIBLE TO BE
11:39:43AM MOVED.
11:39:44AM IF SO, I WOULD SUPPORT THE 6th AND THE 13th.
11:39:49AM BUT AS IT STANDS NOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST PACKED AGENDAS
11:39:52AM WE'VE HAD.
11:39:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OR WE CAN COMMIT TO NOT GETTING INTO A
11:39:56AM DISCUSSION ON JUNE 6 AND RESERVING IT FOR THE 13th.
11:39:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOVE THAT, LIKE, THOUGHT.
11:40:03AM WE COULDN'T EVEN GET THROUGH THE SOLID WASTE PRESENTATION
11:40:09AM AND FOR GOOD REASON.
11:40:10AM THERE IS A LOT TO TALK ABOUT WITH THE CIT.
11:40:14AM VERY IMPORTANT THING.
11:40:15AM I HUNDRED PERCENT THINK WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
11:40:18AM EVEN IF WE MINIMIZE WHAT COUNCIL DOES.
11:40:21AM I SEE IT AS EASILY A HALF AN HOUR THING.
11:40:24AM I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
11:40:25AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THE 6th WAS SIMPLY TO GIVE COUNCIL MORE
11:40:28AM TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
11:40:30AM IF YOU WANT TO CONSOLIDATE IT ON THE 13th, THAT'S FINE.
11:40:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD SUGGEST THE 13th.
11:40:35AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:40:37AM CLENDENIN.
11:40:37AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO CHECK WITH THE COUNTY
11:40:39AM TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN COME ON THE 13th.
11:40:42AM I BELIEVE THEY CAN.
11:40:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FIRST, SO LET'S GET REAL.
11:40:47AM JUNE 6 IS CRAZY.
11:40:48AM I WOULD URGE MAKERS OF MOTIONS THAT ASKED FOR THE 150 STAFF
11:40:54AM REPORTS ON THIS THING AND ALL THE OTHER ISSUES TO DELETE
11:40:58AM SOME OF THOSE ITEMS JUST TO BE ABLE TO FIT THE PRESENTATION
11:41:00AM BECAUSE NOTHING IS EVER JUST TEN MINUTES.
11:41:03AM NOTHING.
11:41:04AM IF WE CAN DISCUSS THE COLOR OF THE SKY, IT WILL BE MORE THAN
11:41:07AM TEN MINUTES.
11:41:08AM AND IT'S NOT JUST ME.
11:41:09AM JUNE 13, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
11:41:15AM HAVING.
11:41:18AM >> YES.
11:41:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO WE'VE GOT A CRA AND THEN YOU HAVE THE
11:41:21AM EVENING SESSION.
11:41:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
11:41:24AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:41:25AM I'VE CONFIRMED THAT FOR THE NIGHT MEETING, THERE ARE 13
11:41:29AM ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA.
11:41:33AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IF I MAY, I APOLOGIZE IF MARTY ALREADY SAID
11:41:36AM THIS BECAUSE I WAS COMING DOWN IN THE ELEVATOR.
11:41:39AM JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS ALREADY VOTED TO
11:41:45AM PUT THIS RENEWAL OF THE CIT TAX ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.
11:41:50AM AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING READY FOR THE SUPERVISOR OF
11:41:55AM ELECTIONS, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE APPROVED BY AUGUST 1st.
11:41:58AM SO WORKING BACKWARDS FROM THAT, WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY TOLD US
11:42:03AM WAS THAT ON JULY 17, THE COUNTY COMMISSION WOULD PUT ON
11:42:10AM THEIR MEETING AGENDA THE FINAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, WHICH
11:42:15AM IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO BE A PARTY TO AND THE
11:42:20AM PROJECT LIST OF HOW THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE SPENT BY THE
11:42:23AM CITY, THE COUNTY, THE VARIOUS CITIES AND THE COUNTY.
11:42:26AM THEY WERE GOING TO APPROVE ALL THAT ON JULY 17.
11:42:29AM SO WORKING BACKWARDS FROM THAT AND LOOKING AT YOUR CALENDAR
11:42:34AM WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A MEETING IN JULY UNTIL JULY 18, WE
11:42:37AM SAID, OKAY, LET'S GET IT ON THE CITY COUNCIL CALENDAR FOR
11:42:41AM JUNE 20th.
11:42:43AM WE ACTUALLY HAD ALREADY PREPARED A RESOLUTION SCHEDULING
11:42:45AM THAT AND ALL THAT, AND THEN THIS WEEK, I BELIEVE IT WAS
11:42:50AM MONDAY, THE COUNTY TOLD US, NO, WE WANT TO TAKE IT TO THE
11:42:55AM COUNTY JUNE 20.
11:42:56AM SO, CITY, YOU HAVE TO DO IT SOONER.
11:42:59AM THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THE SCRAMBLE WE ARE IN BECAUSE YOU ONLY
11:43:02AM HAVE MEETINGS -- WE CAN'T ADVERTISE IT AND DO IT ON JUNE 6.
11:43:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM NOT GOING TO SUBJECT MYSELF TO
11:43:11AM ANOTHER BRUTAL, HORRIBLE DAY OF TRYING TO SQUEEZE TEN POUNDS
11:43:16AM OF SUGAR INTO A FIVE POUND BAG.
11:43:20AM I WOULD BE WILLING TO ADD ANOTHER DAY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE
11:43:23AM THIS.
11:43:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'VE ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT, COUNCIL.
11:43:25AM I JUST LEARNED ABOUT THIS, BY THE WAY, AS THE CITY
11:43:28AM ADMINISTRATION HAS.
11:43:30AM I THANK THEM.
11:43:31AM THEY BROUGHT ME INTO THE PROCESS TO SEE HOW WE CAN BE ABLE
11:43:36AM TO EXPEDITE THIS.
11:43:37AM I TALKED TO EACH OFFICE, SOME PERSONALLY, SOME OF YOU HAVE
11:43:41AM APPOINTMENTS OR SOME OF YOU HAVE COMMITMENTS THAT YOU
11:43:42AM DON'T --
11:43:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M SURE EVERY ONE OF OUR DAYS ARE FULL.
11:43:45AM I CAN CLEAR SCHEDULES.
11:43:47AM I CAN CLEAR MEETINGS.
11:43:50AM I DOUBT SERIOUSLY I HAVE A SINGLE DAY THAT DOESN'T HAVE
11:43:50AM MEETINGS ON IT, BUT I CAN CANCEL THEM AND RESCHEDULE THOSE.
11:43:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING, SO WE CAN'T DO
11:43:57AM THAT.
11:44:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK YOU HAVE A COMMITTEE MEETING.
11:44:02AM HART DOES NOT MEET ON THE 10th -- I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE
11:44:09AM DOCTOR APPOINTMENTS.
11:44:10AM SOME PEOPLE HAVE ACTUAL EVENTS WHERE MULTIPLE PARTIES HAVE
11:44:16AM COMMITTED TO A PARTICULAR DATE, TIME AND PLACE THEY CAN'T
11:44:19AM MOVE AROUND.
11:44:20AM SOME PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE
11:44:23AM RESCHEDULED.
11:44:24AM THIS ALL HAS TO BE DONE, BY THE WAY, COUNCIL, IDEALLY IN
11:44:27AM ORDER TO MEET THE PUBLICATION DEADLINES, THAT'S WHY WE'RE
11:44:30AM REQUESTING OR THE ADMINISTRATION IS -- I AGREE WITH THEM IT
11:44:33AM IS NECESSARY -- TO HAVE A WALK-ON TONIGHT TO SET THE DATE.
11:44:38AM THEY REALLY NEED THE TIME NOW SO THEY CAN PREPARE THE
11:44:40AM DOCUMENTS FOR TONIGHT.
11:44:41AM THAT'S WHY I ASKED TO SPEAK.
11:44:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAD TWO ITEMS I CAN TAKE OFF THE AGENDA FOR
11:44:46AM THE 6th.
11:44:47AM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
11:44:47AM I ALREADY IDENTIFIED TWO.
11:44:49AM I SUGGEST WE DISCUSS THIS EVENING.
11:44:53AM IT'S 11:45 FOR WORKSHOP.
11:44:56AM I THINK WE CAN CLEAR THE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO.
11:44:58AM I STARTED BY GETTING RID OF TWO THAT I WILL ON 30th STREET
11:45:02AM AS WELL AS THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES.
11:45:04AM I'M GLAD TO DO THAT.
11:45:06AM THEN I THINK IF WE ON THE 6th HAVE RULES ON SPEAKING, FIVE
11:45:10AM MINUTES, THREE MINUTES FOR FOLLOW-UP, THAT'S IT.
11:45:13AM WE CAN GET IT DONE.
11:45:16AM WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS TONIGHT.
11:45:17AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THE ISSUE ISN'T THE 6th.
11:45:19AM THE 6th WAS A COURTESY THING.
11:45:22AM CRITICAL ISSUE IS THERE HAS TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON
11:45:25AM APPROVING THE PROJECT LIST AND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
11:45:28AM JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT THEY CALL THE PROJECT LIST, IT'S VERY
11:45:33AM SIMPLISTIC.
11:45:34AM AT THE RISK OF OVERSIMPLIFYING, IT'S NOT A CAPITAL
11:45:38AM IMPROVEMENTS PLAN PROJECT LIST TYPE LIST.
11:45:42AM THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES OF THINGS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SPEND
11:45:47AM THE CIT ON AND WE ARE PROPOSING THEY BE SPENT IN THESE
11:45:50AM PERCENTAGES.
11:45:51AM THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS, FRANKLY, THE RENEWAL OF THE ONE
11:45:54AM THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1996.
11:45:57AM I HOPE THERE WON'T BE THAT MUCH DISCUSSION, BUT THE CRITICAL
11:46:01AM THING IS UNDER THE COUNTY ORDINANCE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A
11:46:05AM PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO COMMENT
11:46:08AM BEFORE YOU APPROVE IT.
11:46:09AM AND WE HAVE TO DO IT BEFORE JULY 17.
11:46:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IT HAS TO BE NOTICED AND A TIME
11:46:16AM CERTAIN.
11:46:17AM IT CANNOT BE SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE JUNE 6 AGENDA.
11:46:23AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WE CAN'T DO IT ON JUNE 6.
11:46:25AM DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO ADVERTISE.
11:46:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ABOUT US CURTAILING -- I CAN SEE ONE
11:46:35AM ITEM HERE THAT IS MINE KIND OF THAT I COULD REMOVE FROM THAT
11:46:38AM AND THAT IS THE STREETCAR.
11:46:39AM MAYBE WE CAN COMPRESS THE CRA TO A TWO-HOUR MEETING AND THEN
11:46:47AM RECONVENE AS THE CITY COUNCIL.
11:46:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ONLY THING YOU CAN'T CONTROL ON THE CRA
11:46:54AM OR PERHAPS YOU CAN, THE CRA BOARD CAN DO IT IS PUBLIC
11:46:57AM COMMENT.
11:46:58AM IF YOU SPEND AN HOUR, HOUR AND 15 MINUTES, THAT DOESN'T GIVE
11:47:02AM YOU MUCH TIME LEFT.
11:47:05AM COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, YOU CAN DO A SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING FOR
11:47:08AM 11 A.M. ON THAT DAY AND YOU EITHER GET THROUGH THE CRA OR
11:47:12AM YOU GO INTO RECESS, AND WHEN EVERYTHING IS DONE YOU COULD
11:47:17AM EITHER TAKE LUNCH AND COME BACK OR GO BACK INTO THE CRA.
11:47:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OR CONTINUE EVERYTHING TO THE NEXT
11:47:26AM MEETING.
11:47:27AM WHY DON'T WE CONSIDER DOING THAT.
11:47:29AM ENDING THE CRA AT 11:00 AND RECONVENING THE CITY COUNCIL AND
11:47:33AM FINISHING THE BUSINESS.
11:47:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL THEN FOR
11:47:38AM TONIGHT TO HAVE THE WALK-ON COME BACK WITH IT SET ON JUNE
11:47:42AM 13, THURSDAY, 11 A.M. TIME CERTAIN AND ADVERTISED AS SUCH.
11:47:47AM >> YES.
11:47:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR THE GUIDANCE.
11:47:48AM THAT WILL BE DONE.
11:47:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'VE BEEN WAITING ALMOST 30 YEARS TO
11:47:54AM HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY IN
11:47:57AM MIDDLE SCHOOL, OUR TEACHER MADE US READ THE NEWSPAPER EVERY
11:47:59AM DAY.
11:48:00AM I FOLLOWED ALL THIS DISCUSSION.
11:48:02AM THE BUCS ARE GOING TO LEAVE, THE STADIUM WILL GET BUILT,
11:48:05AM THIS AND THAT.
11:48:06AM I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT IT, I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER.
11:48:11AM JUNE 13 WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT AND BRING IT BACK TONIGHT.
11:48:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR THAT GUIDANCE.
11:48:16AM SORRY TO THE STAFF AND PUBLIC FOR THE INTERRUPTION, BUT THIS
11:48:19AM IS A TIME SENSITIVE MATTER.
11:48:23AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WHAT TIME --
11:48:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 11 A.M., JUNE 13.
11:48:28AM YES.
11:48:29AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:48:31AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DO AWAY WITH THE 6th COURTESY
11:48:34AM PRESENTATION.
11:48:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:48:35AM JUST JUNE 13.
11:48:36AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: OKAY.
11:48:37AM THANK YOU.
11:48:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S ALMOST 12:00.
11:48:41AM WE STILL HAVE TWO ITEMS.
11:48:44AM COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO TAKE UP NUMBER 2 AND THEN
11:48:47AM BREAK FOR LUNCH AND COME BACK ON THE TREE CANOPY?
11:48:50AM ANY SUGGESTIONS OR JUST GO THROUGH IT?
11:48:53AM WE HAVE FOOD COMING TONIGHT.
11:49:00AM DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
11:49:02AM LET'S GO.
11:49:02AM ITEM NUMBER 2.
11:49:04AM ITEM NUMBER 2, MS. VAN LOAN.
11:49:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:49:12AM MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT.
11:49:15AM WE PROVIDED TO YOU, JUST A TWO-PAGE OVERVIEW OF THE APPROVAL
11:49:19AM PROCESS.
11:49:20AM IF CTTV CAN PULL THAT UP.
11:49:23AM I'LL BE QUICK.
11:49:23AM SO I AM NOT GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE ENTIRE ORDINANCE.
11:49:31AM I'M JUST GOING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS WHICH HAS BEEN
11:49:34AM THE FOCUS OF MOST OF THE DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL BACK IN
11:49:39AM DECEMBER AND JANUARY.
11:49:39AM SO OUR PROCESS INITIATION FOR HONORARY NAMING CAN EITHER
11:49:45AM START WITH AN APPLICATION BY SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC.
11:49:47AM WE DO HAVE A WRITTEN APPLICATION THAT THEY CAN SUBMIT TO OUR
11:49:50AM DEPARTMENT.
11:49:50AM WE ALSO CAN HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MOTION THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE
11:49:54AM BEEN ALREADY PARTICIPATING IN THIS PAST YEAR.
11:49:57AM AND THE MAYOR OR THE ADMINISTRATION CAN ALSO BRING FORWARD
11:50:01AM AND INITIATE IN AN HONORARY NAMING.
11:50:05AM ALL OF THE THREE WAYS YOU CAN BRING FORWARD AN HONORARY
11:50:07AM NAMING PROCESS AND REQUEST WOULD REQUIRE THE FULL BIO AND
11:50:12AM TYPE OF NAMING REQUEST THAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED.
11:50:15AM ONCE WE HAVE THAT, STAFF THEN CONFIRMS ELIGIBILITY PER YOUR
11:50:20AM ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL, AND WE ARE ONLY,
11:50:23AM AGAIN, LOOKING AT ELIGIBILITY PER THAT ORDINANCE AND THAT
11:50:26AM THE INFORMATION IS COMPLETELY AND CORRECT, AS MUCH AS WE CAN
11:50:31AM VERIFY THAT THROUGH PUBLIC DOCUMENTS.
11:50:33AM THEN WE TURN ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND RECOMMENDATION OVER
11:50:36AM TO THE AFFECTED DEPARTMENT.
11:50:39AM RECENTLY, THAT HAS MOSTLY BEEN THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT
11:50:43AM AND THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
11:50:44AM THEY WILL THEN COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF IT IS
11:50:47AM NOT THEN COMPLETELY SPECIFIC, WE'VE HAD SOME THAT SAID WE
11:50:51AM LIKE TO NAME SOMETHING AT THIS LOCATION WITHOUT IT BEING
11:50:54AM FULLY SPECIFIC.
11:50:55AM SO WE DO BRING THAT TO THE DEPARTMENT.
11:50:58AM I THEN COME BACK TO YOU -- CAN WE BRING IT BACK UP AGAIN?
11:51:10AM SO THEN I BRING BACK THAT REPORT.
11:51:13AM I COME BACK TO YOU AT A COUNCIL PRESENTATION.
11:51:16AM I PROVIDE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE BIOGRAPHY, TALKING ABOUT
11:51:20AM THE IMPACT OF THE HONOREE AND THE LOCATION AND WHAT THE
11:51:24AM RECOMMENDATION IS FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
11:51:25AM AT THAT TIME, IF IT'S THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL AND YOU
11:51:30AM SET A FIRST READING, AT THOSE MEETINGS I PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE
11:51:35AM TO EVERYONE LISTENING.
11:51:36AM SO IT'S REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES WHEN WE POST THE
11:51:39AM INFORMATION TO OUR WEBSITE, THE PowerPoint THAT I PRESENT
11:51:42AM TO YOU IS POSTED TO OUR WEBSITE.
11:51:45AM I PROVIDE THE DATE OF THE POSTING.
11:51:48AM BY THE ORDINANCE, MINIMUM 14 DAYS.
11:51:51AM AVERAGING OVER 21 DAYS OF LEAVING IT UP THERE FOR PUBLIC
11:51:55AM COMMENT.
11:51:56AM THEN AT OUR FIRST READING, I COME BACK AGAIN AND DO A
11:51:59AM MINI-OVERVIEW AND WE DO THE SAME THING AT THE SECOND
11:52:03AM READING, DEPENDING ON THE AVAILABILITY OF THE HONOREE AND/OR
11:52:06AM THEIR FAMILIES, THEY WILL ATTEND EITHER THE FIRST OR THE
11:52:09AM SECOND READING AT WHICH POINT IT IS APPROVED AND THEN WE
11:52:12AM MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AFFECTED DEPARTMENT WHO IS
11:52:15AM IMPLEMENTING THAT.
11:52:16AM AGAIN, VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW.
11:52:19AM WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE PAST 18
11:52:22AM MONTHS.
11:52:23AM AS YOU GO THROUGH WITH YOUR DISCUSSION, I AM HERE AND
11:52:26AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR IDEAS ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION.
11:52:31AM I'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING WITH SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS ABOUT HOW
11:52:33AM THEY MIGHT SUPPORT AND HOW WE MIGHT SUPPORT ANY CHANGES TO
11:52:37AM THIS ORDINANCE THAT MIGHT BE MADE BY CITY COUNCIL.
11:52:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:52:42AM THAT'S IT.
11:52:45AM THAT WAS VERY SHORT.
11:52:46AM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:52:47AM YES, MA'AM.
11:52:49AM GO AHEAD.
11:52:49AM THIS WAS YOUR MOTION.
11:52:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, IT WAS.
11:52:53AM HELLO, EVERYONE.
11:52:55AM FOR ME, WHEN I MADE THIS MOTION IT WAS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE
11:53:01AM OF A PARTICULAR NAMING WITHIN MY DISTRICT THAT HAD A LOT OF
11:53:08AM EMOTION CONNECTED TO IT.
11:53:10AM I DISCOVERED THAT WHEN A COUNCIL MEMBER MAKES A MOTION TO
11:53:16AM NAME SOMETHING AFTER SOMEONE, IT GETS A SECOND AND IT GETS
11:53:22AM GENERAL SUPPORT.
11:53:23AM NOTHING IS PRESENTED TO US IN ADVANCE.
11:53:26AM YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION HOW THE COMMUNITY FEELS
11:53:31AM ABOUT THAT.
11:53:31AM WE HAVEN'T TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IF THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE
11:53:33AM THAT MAY BE WORTHY OF THAT NAMING, AND IT DOES CREATE A
11:53:38AM PROBLEM BECAUSE IT PRESENTED ITSELF IN THIS CHAMBER BECAUSE
11:53:42AM OF IT.
11:53:43AM IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS A VERY SIMPLISTIC THING TO DO TO OFFER
11:53:49AM THE NAMING OF SOMETHING BECAUSE MAYBE SOMEONE HAS ASKED YOU
11:53:54AM TO.
11:53:54AM TO HIGHLIGHT, TO BE VERY SPECIFIC, THIS MORNING ON MY WAY TO
11:53:58AM COUNCIL I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM A MEMBER OF THE
11:54:01AM COMMUNITY ASKING WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO GET YOU TO REQUEST
11:54:05AM NAMING A STREET AFTER SOMEONE?
11:54:08AM THAT'S IT.
11:54:11AM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S JUST A REQUEST MADE TO ME.
11:54:16AM THAT'S LOBBYING ME TO DO SOMETHING.
11:54:18AM I DON'T KNOW THE PERSON.
11:54:20AM IT SOUNDS GOOD AND I COULD EASILY AGREE TO IT.
11:54:24AM IF I WERE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, I THINK IT IS A COURTESY THAT
11:54:28AM WE ALL SAY YES.
11:54:29AM BUT THE VETTING PROCESS HAS NOT HAPPENED WITH THE COMMUNITY
11:54:32AM BECAUSE SOMEONE COULD COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, 20 YEARS AGO,
11:54:36AM MY SUCH AND SUCH FAMILY CONTRIBUTED TO THE SAME VERY
11:54:38AM SITUATION AND YOU ALL DON'T OFFER US THAT OPPORTUNITY TO
11:54:41AM HAVE IT NAMED AFTER THAT PARTICULAR PERSON.
11:54:43AM SO THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO AVOID IS COUNCIL MEMBERS
11:54:47AM BEING LOBBIED FOR WHATEVER REASON.
11:54:50AM I KNOW I HAVE ACCEPTED THE FACT THIS IS A POLITICAL JOB, BUT
11:54:53AM I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE DOING THAT IF SOMEONE IS PRESENTING IT
11:54:56AM WITH ME BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
11:54:58AM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW A COUNCIL MEMBER ACTUALLY GETS TO THAT
11:55:02AM DECISION TO SAY YES, IS IT BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED YOU TO DO
11:55:06AM IT AND YOU THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE
11:55:12AM OTHER CONCERNS OR INTERESTS OF THE PUBLIC.
11:55:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN -- SORRY, VIERA
11:55:17AM THEN CLENDENIN.
11:55:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, NO, GO AHEAD.
11:55:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CONCUR WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON ON
11:55:23AM THIS.
11:55:23AM IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT WE'RE MISSING A LITTLE BIT IN THESE
11:55:26AM DECISIONS IS THE GRAVITAS OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR WHOEVER WE'RE
11:55:32AM RENAMING AFTER.
11:55:33AM I THINK A LOT HAS TO BE DONE BY THE RESEARCH AND STAFF
11:55:36AM REPORTS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT PERSON'S LIFE AND
11:55:42AM CONTRIBUTIONS AND WHY IT RISES TO A LEVEL OF RENAMING A
11:55:46AM PUBLIC FACILITY OR PUBLIC STREET.
11:55:50AM I FOUND IT INTERESTING IN THE ONE SITUATION, VERY DIFFICULT
11:55:57AM AND CREATED A LOT OF EMOTION, ANIMOSITY AND UNNECESSARY
11:56:01AM EMOTION AND ANIMOSITY THAT PROBABLY THROUGH PROCEDURE SHOULD
11:56:06AM HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AVOID.
11:56:09AM OBVIOUSLY, THIS -- SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAS TO HAPPEN.
11:56:14AM I'M NOT COMFORTABLE AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE WHO IS DOING
11:56:17AM ENOUGH OF THE RESEARCH.
11:56:20AM GETTING ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, THAT
11:56:23AM WE'RE MAKING GOOD DECISIONS.
11:56:25AM IS STAFF SATISFIED THAT THIS PROCEDURE WOULD BE WELL
11:56:30AM UTILIZED AND ADEQUATE TO MAKE SURE -- ENSURE THAT PEOPLE
11:56:33AM HAVE MET THAT LEVEL OF GRAVITAS?
11:56:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN I SPEAK BEFORE MS. VAN LOAN, PLEASE?
11:56:38AM BECAUSE WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
11:56:39AM WHAT MS. VAN LOAN'S OFFICE DOES IS WHAT WE ASK HER TO DO.
11:56:43AM WE MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN THEY DO THE VETTING.
11:56:48AM IT'S NOT THEIR OFFICE, PER SE.
11:56:50AM THEY ACTUALLY DO WHAT WE'RE ASKING.
11:56:53AM IT'S BEFORE IT GETS TO HER OFFICE IS THE PART THAT WE MUST
11:56:58AM ADDRESS THAT IS AMONG US.
11:56:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S SAY I WANT TO NAME A STREET AFTER MY
11:57:05AM DOG.
11:57:06AM EVERYBODY KNOWS I LOVE MY DOGS.
11:57:08AM I WOULD SUBMIT MY DOG'S NAME.
11:57:10AM MAYBE A PROCEDURE I SUBMIT MY DOG'S NAME TO THE STAFF FOR
11:57:14AM VETTING AND THEY COULD CREATE A REPORT ABOUT THAT, WHETHER
11:57:17AM MY DOG IS WORTHY OF THAT RENAMING AND THEN SUBMIT THE REPORT
11:57:21AM BACK TO US WHEN IT COMES BEFORE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL?
11:57:25AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE
11:57:28AM ARE CHARGED WITH, ARE THEY ELIGIBLE BASED UNDER THE
11:57:31AM ORDINANCE.
11:57:32AM WE ARE NOT JUDGING WORTHINESS.
11:57:35AM SO IF THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION BY CITY COUNCIL THROUGH A
11:57:40AM MOTION OR BY THE ADMINISTRATION, WE ARE NOT QUESTIONING THE
11:57:45AM JUDGMENT OF EITHER OF THOSE TWO ENTITIES COMING TO US TO RUN
11:57:49AM IT THROUGH A PROCESS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND TO IMPLEMENT IT.
11:57:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE THERE ANY CRITERIA?
11:57:55AM I READ SOME CRITERIA THAT PERSONS FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF
11:58:01AM THINGS, FIRST CRITERIA IS THEY NEED TO BE DEAD.
11:58:06AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: FOR MAJOR ASSETS.
11:58:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FIRST CRITERIA, YOU MUST BE DEAD.
11:58:11AM ARE THOSE CRITERIA WE ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE FOLLOWING AND
11:58:14AM INCORPORATE?
11:58:15AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I DON'T WANT TO SAY UNFORTUNATELY, OUR
11:58:18AM CONUNDRUM COMES UP IN A COUPLE OF WAYS.
11:58:21AM ONE, IT SAYS THEY MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
11:58:24AM I CANNOT JUDGE FOR YOU WHAT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE
11:58:28AM COMMUNITY.
11:58:28AM WHAT I MAY PERCEIVE TO BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, WHETHER I'M
11:58:31AM AN ENVIRONMENTALIST OR INTO RECYCLING OR INTO PARKS AND REC,
11:58:37AM FOR THE DIRT PEOPLE TO JUDGE WHAT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO
11:58:41AM THE COMMUNITY AND THERE IS, WHEN YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION,
11:58:46AM THAT YOU'RE ASKING US, YOU'RE NOT -- WE'RE ASKING ASKED TO
11:58:50AM PUT IT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE
11:58:53AM IS A RECOMMENDATION BY CITY COUNCIL TO NAME SOMETHING AFTER
11:58:58AM SOMEONE.
11:59:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M A CITY COUNCIL PERSON AND I SAY I WANT
11:59:03AM THE STREET RENAMED AFTER THIS BELOVED ANIMAL, THEODORE
11:59:08AM BARRINGTON BECAUSE HE MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, IT WOULD BE
11:59:11AM UP TO THE PEOPLE TO MY RIGHT AND LEFT ON THE DAY TOYS LOOK
11:59:14AM AT ME AND SAY YOU'RE FULL OF YOU KNOW WHAT, TO REJECT THAT.
11:59:20AM SO CITY STAFF WOULD NOT BE REJECTING.
11:59:22AM IT WOULD BE UP TO US TO SELF-REGULATE.
11:59:25AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WHAT WOULD HAPPEN -- WHAT HAS BEEN
11:59:29AM HAPPENING IS THE ORDINANCE SAYS WHEN YOU MAKE THE MOTION, A
11:59:31AM FULL BIO IS SUPPOSED TO BE AVAILABLE.
11:59:33AM WHAT NORMALLY HAPPENS IS THE MOTIONS ARE MADE AND THEN OUR
11:59:36AM STAFF IS WORKING WITH WHOEVER ASKED YOU TO MAKE THE MOTION
11:59:39AM OR ANYONE YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
11:59:42AM CHASE DOWN THE BIOS, WE GATHER THAT INFORMATION AND THEN WE
11:59:45AM TRY TO LOOK AT PUBLIC RECORDS THAT VERIFY THE INFORMATION
11:59:49AM PROVIDED.
11:59:49AM SO IF THEY SAY THEY DID X, Y, Z, WE GO AND LOOK DID THEY
11:59:54AM SERVE ON THESE BOARDS?
11:59:55AM DID THEY PARTICIPATE IN WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WAS SAID AND
11:59:58AM THE INFORMATION PROVIDED USUALLY BY THE REQUESTER.
12:00:01PM THEN WE PUT THAT TOGETHER AND BRING THAT BIO BACK TO YOU IN
12:00:06PM THAT FIRST PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL TO DECIDE, DOES THAT
12:00:10PM BIO LIVE UP TO YOUR LEVEL OF SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION.
12:00:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION, I'VE READ IT, DO
12:00:22PM THEY SPELL OUT EXAMPLES OF SIGNIFICANT --
12:00:26PM >> NO.
12:00:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S FOR OUR INTERPRETATION.
12:00:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
12:00:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:00:31PM IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE ONES WE'VE DONE RECENTLY, WE HAVE
12:00:34PM ONE COMING UP FOR SALVADOR MARTINEZ YBOR, THE GRANDSON OF
12:00:42PM THE FOUNDER OF YBOR CITY WHO UNBEKNOWNST TO MANY WAS KILLED
12:00:47PM IN ACTION IN WORLD WAR II.
12:00:49PM DR. WALTER SMITH.
12:00:50PM MIKE PHILLIPS, McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER.
12:00:56PM I DON'T THINK WE'VE ABUSED THE DISCRETION.
12:00:58PM THERE WAS ONE SITUATION THAT WAS TRAGIC, IT REALLY WAS,
12:01:01PM BECAUSE IT'S SAD TO SEE A DISPUTE OVER PERSON A AND PERSON
12:01:05PM B, BOTH OF WHOM HAVE PASSED ON.
12:01:07PM THAT'S SAD, BETWEEN PEOPLE THAT IT MEANS A LOT.
12:01:10PM I REALLY THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE THE BURDEN IS ON US
12:01:14PM AS COUNCIL, IF I'M GOING TO PROPOSE SOMETHING, I'M GOING TO
12:01:18PM VET IT.
12:01:18PM AND WE ALL HAVE TO VET IT.
12:01:21PM IF WE SEE A RED FLAG GOING, HEY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS
12:01:25PM SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.
12:01:27PM THERE IS A DIPLOMATIC WAY TO HANDLE IT.
12:01:30PM IT IS INCUMBENT ON CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO MAY MAKE THE
12:01:32PM PROPOSALS TO BE RESPONSIBLE WITH THEM.
12:01:34PM THAT'S IT.
12:01:35PM JUST TO BE VERY, VERY RESPONSIBLE WITH THEM BECAUSE ACUTE
12:01:39PM THINGS CAN HAPPEN.
12:01:40PM PEOPLE GET VERY EMOTIONAL, JUSTIFIABLY SO OVER THE LEGACY OF
12:01:47PM PEOPLE NO LONGER WITH US.
12:01:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WISH IT WERE THAT BLACK AND WHITE.
12:01:51PM FOR ME, WE JUST DON'T NEED THAT LEVEL OF POWER TO MAKE THE
12:01:56PM MOTION AT ALL.
12:01:57PM THE APPLICATION PROCESS ACTUALLY DOES EXIST FOR THE
12:02:01PM COMMUNITY, CORRECT?
12:02:02PM THEY CAN FILL OUT AN APPLICATION.
12:02:05PM JUST LIKE HOW WE DECIDE ON ZONING ISSUES, IT CAN BE
12:02:09PM PRESENTED BEFORE US AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION.
12:02:12PM WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE THE INITIATORS OF IT.
12:02:15PM WE SHOULD LET THE COMMUNITY PRESENT IT TO US AND THEN WE
12:02:19PM DECIDE.
12:02:19PM IT ACTUALLY CAN HAPPEN AND IT DID HAPPEN.
12:02:24PM I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE ONES WE VOTED ON FROM ALESSI TO
12:02:28PM WALTER SMITH AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT I'VE BEEN A
12:02:31PM PART OF, YES, IT IS GOOD WHEN IT'S GOOD.
12:02:35PM BUT WHEN IT'S NOT AND BECAUSE IT CAME FROM UP HERE, IT SHOWS
12:02:38PM A LEVEL OF POWER THAT WE HAVE THAT WE JUST DON'T NEED TO
12:02:41PM HAVE IT.
12:02:42PM WE JUST DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT LEVEL OF POWER.
12:02:44PM IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
12:02:45PM AND IT PUTS YOU -- IT CAN ACTUALLY PUT YOU IN AN
12:02:48PM UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION.
12:02:49PM YOU KNOW WHY?
12:02:50PM BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.
12:02:51PM I GOT THE PHONE CALL TODAY AND I WAS GIVEN A LITTLE PITCH,
12:02:55PM AND IT SOUNDED NICE, YOU KNOW, BUT IF I'M IN A POSITION
12:02:59PM WHERE THAT'S NOT UP TO ME, YOU ALL CAN MAKE AN APPLICATION,
12:03:04PM AND IT DOES COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND THE SEVEN MEMBER BODY
12:03:08PM CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.
12:03:09PM WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE THE INITIATORS.
12:03:11PM I KNOW THAT THAT TAKES AWAY POWER FROM THIS DAIS, BUT IT
12:03:18PM ALSO PUTS YOU IN A POSITION WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE
12:03:21PM LOBBIED AND FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE JUST BECAUSE THEY ASK DOESN'T
12:03:25PM MEAN YOU HAVE TO SAY YES.
12:03:26PM HAVE YOU EVER DECLINED ANYONE THAT'S APPROACHED YOU?
12:03:29PM HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN THAT POSITION?
12:03:31PM THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL.
12:03:35PM WHERE YOU WANT TO SAY NO.
12:03:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ABOUT IF INSTEAD OF DOING THE PROCESS
12:03:42PM WE DID NOW, IF -- INSTEAD OF EXCLUSIONARY LIKE THAT, LET'S
12:03:47PM SAY I WANTED TO HAVE -- WHICH I NEVER HAVE.
12:03:49PM DON'T FORESEE MYSELF DOING IT.
12:03:51PM LET'S SAY SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE I CAME ACROSS SOMEBODY
12:03:55PM WORTHY THAT I WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST STAFF
12:03:59PM PREPARE A REPORT AND A BIO TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL AND THEN
12:04:03PM LET THE PROCEDURE GO FROM THAT POINT INSTEAD OF HAVING US
12:04:09PM MAKE A MOTION AND STARTING BLINDLY.
12:04:13PM GENERALLY WHEN WE HEAR THIS, IT IS THE FIRST TIME WE HEARD
12:04:15PM IT AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION AND THEN IT STARTS THE
12:04:19PM CLOCK.
12:04:19PM BUT WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION FROM STAFF AHEAD OF TIME AND
12:04:22PM THEN WE CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION.
12:04:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT PUTS A LOT OF BURDEN ON THE STAFF.
12:04:29PM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
12:04:30PM NUMBER TWO IS IF ONE COUNCIL MEMBER SUGGESTS IT AND IT IS A
12:04:34PM MOTION OF COUNCIL TO TELL IT TO STAFF, THERE IS AN INFERENCE
12:04:40PM THERE, A VOTE OF COUNCIL BEHIND SENDING IT TO THE STAFF AND
12:04:44PM THE PROCESS.
12:04:47PM A LOT OF THOSE NAMES MAY OR MAY NOT BE.
12:04:49PM POSITION OF EITHER STAFF SAYING IT DOESN'T MEET CRITERIA AND
12:04:52PM THEN TELLING THOSE PEOPLE OR COUNCIL MAKING THAT DECISION IN
12:04:56PM A PUBLIC MEETING ON ITS OWN.
12:04:57PM THAT IS A VERY AWKWARD POSITION TO BE IN I WOULD THINK.
12:05:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:05:04PM I THINK THAT WE RISK CREATING A PROBLEM, IN SEARCH OF A
12:05:10PM SOLUTION, WHATEVER IT IS.
12:05:11PM I SAY THIS WITH TONS OF STUFF, INCLUDING RESOLUTIONS, WE CAN
12:05:14PM SAY NO, RIGHT?
12:05:16PM IF SOMEBODY COMES UP TO ME AND ASKS ME FOR A RENAMING I'M
12:05:19PM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, I SAY NO TO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME ON
12:05:23PM STUFF, RIGHT?
12:05:24PM THAT'S FINE.
12:05:25PM WE CAN ALWAYS SAY NO.
12:05:26PM IF WE LEAVE IT UP TO THE COMMUNITY TO COME TO US ON IT,
12:05:30PM NUMBER ONE, THAT'S GOING TO BE -- THE COMMUNITY IS IN CHARGE
12:05:33PM OF STREET RENAMINGS THROUGH US BECAUSE WE'RE ELECTED BY THE
12:05:37PM COMMUNITY AND WE ARE THE DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
12:05:40PM COMMUNITY.
12:05:40PM AND IF WE PUT IT OUT TO SOME PROCESS WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME,
12:05:43PM IT WILL STILL COME TO US AND STILL HAVE TO SAY YES OR NO.
12:05:47PM I JUST THINK AGAIN, MAYBE IF THERE'S MORE OF A BURDEN ON
12:05:52PM COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR VETTING THINGS.
12:05:53PM AGAIN, I WOULD QUESTION, WHEN HAS THIS BIT US IN THE PAST?
12:05:59PM ONE TIME IT HAS.
12:06:01PM AGAIN, THAT WAS VERY, VERY SAD.
12:06:03PM I HATED TO SEE THAT.
12:06:04PM I THINK IT BROKE EVERYBODY'S HEART BECAUSE FOLKS WHO WERE NO
12:06:07PM LONGER WITH US, PEOPLE GETTING EMOTIONAL ABOUT THAT, NOBODY
12:06:10PM WANTS THAT, BUT THAT CAN BE REMEDY, I THINK THROUGH PROPER
12:06:15PM VETTING AND WHATNOT.
12:06:16PM IF WE PUT IT OUT THROUGH SOME PROCESS WHERE PEOPLE IN THE
12:06:19PM COMMUNITY CAN UNILATERALLY PROCEED AND -- WE STILL HAVE TO
12:06:24PM SAY YES OR NO TO IT.
12:06:26PM WE WERE ELECTED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS IN CONSULTATION WITH
12:06:29PM THE COMMUNITY ON IT.
12:06:30PM BY THE WAY, I ACTUALLY HAVE HAD -- NOT GOING TO SAY WHO, BUT
12:06:34PM I HAVE PEOPLE COME UP TO ME AND ASK ME AND I GO I WISH YOU
12:06:38PM WELL, GO IN THE PEACE OF OUR LORD, I MUST DECLINE.
12:06:42PM I HAVE SAID NO BEFORE.
12:06:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:06:46PM THE DIFFERENCE, THOUGH, IS RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST CAUGHT
12:06:50PM UNAWARE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE BACKGROUND.
12:06:52PM IT COMES DURING NEW BUSINESS INSTEAD OF -- I THINK
12:07:00PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S IDEA IS HONESTLY THE BEST OF
12:07:04PM SOMEBODY COMES TO YOU, HEY, LOVE A STREET NAMING.
12:07:07PM GREAT, HERE IS THE PROCESS.
12:07:08PM FILL THIS OUT.
12:07:09PM THEY'LL DO THE BACKGROUND WORK OR WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP
12:07:16PM WITH SOME RULES THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW.
12:07:22PM PASS THIS TEST, THAT TEST, WHATEVER, BUT WE COULD COME UP
12:07:25PM WITH THAT AND THEN THEY COULD BRING IT TO US.
12:07:27PM BUT BY THEN, I WOULD HAVE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
12:07:30PM I WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
12:07:32PM RIGHT NOW, WE SIMPLY APPROVE IT BECAUSE MOST OF US DON'T
12:07:36PM KNOW WHO THE PERSON IS AND THEN WE'RE JUST AUTOMATICALLY
12:07:41PM SORT OF FORCED TO SAY YES BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW.
12:07:47PM I UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS COMING FROM.
12:07:50PM I AGREE THAT THE PROCESS COULD BE BETTER.
12:07:52PM I SUPPORT YOU IN THE APPLICATION.
12:07:56PM IF IT ALREADY EXISTS, GREAT.
12:07:58PM IF NOT, CREATING ONE.
12:08:00PM >> IF I MAY, WE DO HAVE AN APPLICATION.
12:08:02PM WHEN YOU PASSED YOUR OWN ORDINANCE THAT APPLIES TO YOUR
12:08:08PM POLICY, CREATING A POLICY FOR YOURSELF, IT ALSO AS MR.
12:08:12PM SHELBY POINTED OUT PUTS US IN THE POSITION OF HAVING TO VERY
12:08:18PM POLITELY AND DIPLOMATICALLY REMIND YOU WHAT YOUR POLICY SAYS
12:08:23PM SO IT IS FOLLOWED.
12:08:26PM CURRENTLY THE POLICY SAYS WHEN A MOTION IS MADE IT IS THAT
12:08:29PM COUNCILPERSON'S RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE THE BIO.
12:08:33PM SO YOU CAN ASK OF EACH OTHER THAT BEFORE MOTIONS ARE MADE
12:08:38PM THAT YOU PROVIDE THROUGH OUR PROPER CHANNEL AND THROUGH
12:08:42PM OnBase, YOU REQUIRE STAFF TO HAVE EVERYTHING ON OnBase
12:08:47PM PRIOR TO IT BEING BROUGHT TO YOU, THAT CAN ALSO BE SHARED
12:08:51PM PRIOR TO THE MOTION BEING MADE.
12:08:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, THAT IS A GREAT CHANGE TO BE MADE
12:08:58PM BECAUSE WE COULD PROPOSE SOMETHING OF SOMEONE AND YOU DON'T
12:09:01PM WANT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL AND VOTE NO, RIGHT?
12:09:04PM BECAUSE THAT'S PATENTLY OFFENSIVE.
12:09:06PM MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHEN WE BRING IT UP, WE HAVE THE
12:09:09PM BIO, AND MAYBE YOU PRESENT IT TO CITY COUNCIL AND YOU GO,
12:09:12PM LISTEN, I WILL BE MAKING THIS MOTION IN TWO WEEKS.
12:09:16PM YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION AT THE TIME AND PEOPLE
12:09:18PM HAVE TIME TO VET IT.
12:09:19PM THAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL CHANGE.
12:09:21PM I THINK THAT'S MARVELOUS.
12:09:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S NOT REALLY ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE
12:09:26PM APPLICATION.
12:09:27PM I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THE MOTION OUT OF IT, JUST, PERIOD
12:09:29PM AND GO STRAIGHT TO THE APPLICATION.
12:09:31PM THAT'S GOING TO BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
12:09:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
12:09:43PM WOMEN ARE JUST A LOT TOUGHER UP HERE, EVEN ON THE DAIS.
12:09:47PM WE COULD SAY NO VERY EASILY AND IT'S JUST NOT IMPACTFUL TO
12:09:51PM US.
12:09:53PM I THINK FOR ME, I JUST MADE A GENERAL RULE WITHIN MYSELF
12:09:56PM THAT I'M JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT AND I'M GOING TO DECLINE
12:10:00PM WHEN A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY ASKS ME TO DO IT.
12:10:03PM I WAS WATCHING A MEETING WHERE A COUNCIL MEMBER MADE A
12:10:06PM MOTION TO NAME SOMETHING AFTER SOMEONE AND THE PERSON HAD
12:10:10PM ONLY BEEN DEAD A WEEK AND THE RULE IS FOR A YEAR.
12:10:13PM BUT IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
12:10:16PM RIGHT UP HERE.
12:10:17PM WE CAN -- IF WE ELIMINATE TAKING OURSELVES OUT OF IT AND
12:10:22PM THEN WHEN IT'S PRESENTED TO US, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE A
12:10:27PM LOT EASIER ON US AS INDIVIDUALS, BEEN ELECTED, I UNDERSTAND
12:10:33PM THAT, IT'S JUST THERE'S TOO MUCH POLITICS BEHIND IT.
12:10:39PM HAVING TO HAVE READ ALL THE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE MEMBERS
12:10:43PM OF THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THE ONE IN MY DISTRICT, REGARDING
12:10:47PM A PARK, WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH.
12:10:49PM YOU KNOW WHAT?
12:10:50PM I'M LIKE, YOU CAN GET A BENCH AND GET A TREE OR YOU WANT THE
12:10:54PM TREE AND HAVE THE BENCH BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE THE NAME OF THE
12:10:56PM PARK.
12:10:56PM THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY SOLUTION TO BOTH FAMILIES.
12:10:58PM LIKE NOTHING CAN BE NAMED AFTER YOUR PARENTS, BUT YOU CAN
12:11:02PM GET A BENCH AT THE PARK AND YOU CAN GET A BENCH AT THE PARK.
12:11:05PM THAT'S HOW I FELT ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BE PUT
12:11:08PM IN THE POSITION TO DECIDE ONE OVER THE OTHER.
12:11:11PM IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO ANY OF US OR EVEN TO THEM, BECAUSE
12:11:16PM YOU'RE DECIDING WORTHINESS.
12:11:19PM IT'S JUST AN UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION TO BE IN.
12:11:23PM I WOULD RATHER SAY THAT RIGHT NOW WHILE I DON'T HAVE
12:11:25PM ANYTHING IN FRONT OF ME.
12:11:26PM IT IS EASY FOR ME TO TELL A PERSON, NO, THAT THAT'S NOT THE
12:11:31PM PROCESS RIGHT NOW RATHER THAN BE PUT IN A POSITION.
12:11:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:11:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST VERY BRIEFLY, COUNCIL.
12:11:39PM JUST A REMINDER THAT, OF COURSE, IF SOMEBODY DOES APPROACH A
12:11:43PM COUNCIL MEMBER AND ASKS FOR THIS AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAYS
12:11:45PM NO, IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE SOMEBODY FROM GOING TO LOBBY OTHER
12:11:50PM COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GET SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YES.
12:11:53PM OF COURSE, YOU CAN'T EVEN DISCUSS HAVE YOU BEEN APPROACHED
12:11:58PM BY BECAUSE SOMETHING LIKELY TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR A
12:12:01PM VOTE WHICH WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW.
12:12:03PM I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
12:12:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M GOING TO PULL OUT MY MAN CARD.
12:12:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, BOY.
12:12:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S BETTER THAN THE OTHER ONE.
12:12:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON BEHALF OF MEN EVERYWHERE, I CAN SAY NO.
12:12:17PM I HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING NO.
12:12:19PM ASK ANY OF MY KIDS OR MY DOGS.
12:12:21PM I THINK THE THING IS, THIS IS POLITICAL, RIGHT?
12:12:25PM WE ARE HIRED TO BE POLITICIANS.
12:12:27PM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
12:12:29PM I DO LIKE PROCEDURE.
12:12:31PM I'M A PROCEDURE GUY.
12:12:33PM I THINK HAVING THIS, THE BIOS AHEAD OF TIME, I THINK THE
12:12:39PM SUGGESTION OF HAVING THAT SUBMITTED IN OnBase SO THAT WE
12:12:41PM ARE BETTER PREPARED AND BETTER UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITAS OF
12:12:46PM THAT PARTICULAR REQUEST IS IMPORTANT.
12:12:48PM I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY WELL MADE DISCUSSION.
12:12:52PM I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID THAT OR STAFF, I CAN'T
12:12:56PM REMEMBER WHICH ONE FIRST BROUGHT IT UP.
12:12:58PM I THINK COUNCILMAN VIERA ECHOED IT.
12:13:00PM I THINK HAVING THAT GRAVITAS IN FRONT OF US PRIOR TO THE
12:13:04PM FIRST VOTE BECAUSE I DO SEE AND SOMETIMES I THINK TO THE
12:13:09PM FRUSTRATION OF STAFF AND OTHERS, ON THIS AND OTHER ISSUES,
12:13:13PM WE OUT OF COURTESY TO FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE GENERALLY WILL
12:13:17PM SECOND MOTIONS OR PUSH THINGS ALONG OUT OF COURTESY AND
12:13:21PM MAYBE IF WE HAVE THIS IN ADVANCE WE WOULD BE BETTER PREPARED
12:13:24PM TO SAY NO.
12:13:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT DOESN'T DETERMINE WORTHINESS.
12:13:28PM THAT'S THE ISSUE.
12:13:29PM IT MAY BE, YES, THIS PERSON IS GOOD, BUT NOTHING ELSE HAS
12:13:35PM BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU.
12:13:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE MAYBE EITHER NEED TO HAVE IN
12:13:41PM WRITING FROM COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE WHAT WORTHINESS LOOKS
12:13:44PM LIKE SO A BETTER PROCEDURE.
12:13:46PM THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THESE PEOPLE HAVE MADE, MAYBE THAT NEEDS
12:13:50PM TO BE, AND THEN WE CAN COMPARE WHAT IS BROUGHT BEFORE US
12:13:54PM BEFORE OUR PREDETERMINED LIST OF WHAT WOULD BE WORTHY AND
12:13:58PM THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT QUANTITATIVE
12:14:03PM INFORMATION.
12:14:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ON THE
12:14:05PM RIVERWALK, THE BUSTS THAT ARE THERE, I THINK THE CRITERIA
12:14:08PM WAS THE PERSON HAD TO BE DEAD 15 YEARS.
12:14:10PM THEY WERE VERY SPECIFIC.
12:14:13PM PERHAPS LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE MATRIX, AND THEN
12:14:17PM THAT CAN BE HELPFUL.
12:14:18PM MR. SHELBY.
12:14:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO TAKE TWO MINUTES, COUNCIL.
12:14:22PM YOU ARE ABOUT TO ADOPT RULES WITH REGARD TO PRESENTATIONS
12:14:26PM AND COMMENDATIONS THAT ARE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THAT.
12:14:29PM I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
12:14:32PM THESE ARE RULES THAT YOU WILL BE TALKING ABOUT ON JUNE 6 OR
12:14:35PM ADOPTING.
12:14:36PM WITH REGARD TO AN IN-PERSON COMMENDATION NOT RELATED TO CITY
12:14:40PM BUSINESS, YOUR RULE WILL BE THAT CITY COUNCIL SHALL REQUIRE
12:14:43PM A MEMORANDUM RECEIVED IN ADVANCE OF A MOTION SEEKING AN
12:14:46PM IN-PERSON COMMENDATION THAT IS NOT RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS,
12:14:49PM EXPLAINING THE BACKGROUND OF THE PERSON FOR WHOM THE
12:14:52PM COMMENDATION IS SOUGHT AND WHY AN IN-PERSON COMMENDATION IS
12:14:55PM REQUESTED INSTEAD OF BEING PRESENTED OFF-SITE BECAUSE YOU
12:14:58PM SAID AND I ADDED, IT IS THE PREFERENCE OF CITY COUNCIL THAT
12:15:01PM SUCH COMMENDATION NOT RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS ARE PRESENTED
12:15:04PM OFF-SITE.
12:15:05PM WITH REGARD TO PRESENTATIONS, RULE STATES CITY COUNCIL SHALL
12:15:09PM REQUIRE A MEMORANDUM RECEIVED IN ADVANCE OF A MOTION SEEKING
12:15:12PM A PRESENTATION ON A MATTER THAT IS NOT RELATED TO CITY
12:15:16PM BUSINESS EXPLAINING THE SUBJECT OF THE PRESENTATION, WHO
12:15:18PM WILL BE PRESENTING, AND WHY THE PRESENTATION AT THE MEETING
12:15:21PM IS NECESSARY.
12:15:22PM SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE SETTING THAT UP NOW FOR PRESENTATION
12:15:25PM AND COMMENDATIONS TO DO THAT IN ADVANCE.
12:15:28PM COUNCIL RECEIVING THAT IN ADVANCE OF MAKING THE MOTION UNDER
12:15:31PM NEW BUSINESS.
12:15:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING CURED OR ADDRESSED
12:15:39PM THROUGH A RULE OF PROCEDURE.
12:15:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CERTAINLY CAN.
12:15:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: DOES TWO THINGS.
12:15:45PM NUMBER ONE, GIVES PEOPLE TIME.
12:15:47PM THEN ALSO PUTS A BURDEN ON A COUNCIL MEMBER HAVING TO WRITE
12:15:50PM A MINI-BIOGRAPHY ON SOMEBODY AND EXPLAIN WHY THEY ARE WORTHY
12:15:53PM FOR THIS.
12:15:54PM SO THAT PUTS A BURDEN ON SOMEONE.
12:15:56PM I CAN'T FLIPPANTLY GO, HEY, I WANT TO DO SOMETHING AFTER SO
12:16:00PM AND SO.
12:16:01PM MAYBE RULES OF PROCEDURE COULD DEAL WITH THIS IN A GOOD WAY.
12:16:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:16:06PM ANYTHING ELSE?
12:16:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WITHIN MY OWN POLICY, IN ORDER FOR ME TO
12:16:14PM SAY, WELL, IF YOU WANT ME TO DO THIS, THEN I NEED SEVERAL
12:16:17PM LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OTHER PEOPLE, ORGANIZATIONS
12:16:20PM OR OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTING WHAT YOU'RE
12:16:25PM REQUESTING, IF I'M -- AM I ENTITLED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE
12:16:28PM THAT?
12:16:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO GO BEYOND THE RULES?
12:16:30PM YOUR CRITERIA IS YOUR CRITERIA.
12:16:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS IT LEGAL FOR ME TO DO THAT FROM A
12:16:36PM STANDPOINT --
12:16:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE SHOULD JUST PUT THAT AS PART OF
12:16:40PM OUR RULES.
12:16:40PM I LIKE THAT.
12:16:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN'T JUST COME FROM ME.
12:16:44PM HAS TO BE A PROCESS WHERE IF YOU'RE GOING TO LOBBY ME FOR
12:16:48PM IT, THEN I NEED TO HEAR FROM OTHER PEOPLE BESIDES YOU.
12:16:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FAIR.
12:16:54PM I'VE HAD REQUESTS LIKE THAT IN THE PAST, SO AND SO WILL COME
12:17:00PM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, TO GIVE IT CREDIBILITY OR VOUCH FOR THE
12:17:03PM SAID INDIVIDUAL.
12:17:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF MS. VAN LOAN WOULD BE WILLING TO DO
12:17:08PM THIS, MAYBE I CAN GET IDEAS FOR LANGUAGE AND BRING IT BACK
12:17:11PM NEXT WEEK ON THE 6th.
12:17:14PM JUNE 6.
12:17:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM A TEACHER.
12:17:20PM I LIKE COMING UP WITH IDEAS ON THE SIDE.
12:17:22PM THE OTHER THING THAT WOULD BE GREAT IS THE DAY YOU MAKE A
12:17:26PM MOTION, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY IN PUBLIC COMMENT BACKING
12:17:29PM YOU UP BESIDES JUST YOUR PAPERWORK, HEY, YOU NEED TO BRING
12:17:35PM AT LEAST ONE OR TWO PEOPLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL.
12:17:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WORK WITH MS. VAN LOAN.
12:17:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SHE HAS A LOT ON HER PLATE.
12:17:44PM DO YOU HAVE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES OUTSIDE OF WHAT
12:17:49PM THE ORDINANCE SAYS?
12:17:50PM IS THERE A CHECKLIST OR A PROCESS THAT YOU FOLLOW?
12:17:53PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MY CHECKLIST IS ALL BASED ON WHAT'S IN
12:17:56PM THE ORDINANCE.
12:17:56PM THE ONLY THING THAT GOES BEYOND THAT IS WE DO SOME VERY
12:18:02PM BASIC ONLY BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE PUBLIC REALM OF BACKGROUND
12:18:06PM SEARCH.
12:18:07PM THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE NOT WHAT'S IN THE
12:18:10PM ORDINANCE THAT'S ON OUR CHECKLIST.
12:18:12PM OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF CHECKLIST THAT
12:18:14PM DEFINES WORTHINESS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
12:18:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT CODIFIED IN MUNICODE?
12:18:24PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: IT IS AN ACTUAL ORDINANCE.
12:18:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S CODIFIED?
12:18:28PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: IT'S GOT NUMBERS DOWN THE SIDE.
12:18:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT SECTION OF THE CODE IS IT?
12:18:31PM WHAT CHAPTER WOULD THAT BE IN, RON, IF YOU KNOW, PLEASE?
12:18:39PM >> SECTION BEGINS ON SECTION 2 -- RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL
12:18:42PM DEPARTMENT.
12:18:44PM SECTION 2-828.
12:18:45PM CONTINUES ON.
12:18:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'LL UPLOAD THAT TO COUNCIL OR SEND BY
12:18:51PM E-MAIL SO YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU.
12:18:53PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THEY ALL HAVE IT.
12:18:54PM I BELIEVE IT WAS POSTED WITH TODAY'S AGENDA.
12:18:56PM IT WAS SENT TO YOU BY THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE WHEN THEY
12:19:01PM SENT THE PowerPoint.
12:19:02PM IT WAS AN ATTACHMENT WITH THE PowerPoint.
12:19:04PM EVERYONE WHO GOT THAT GOT A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE.
12:19:06PM THE OTHER THING, I KNOW WE SORT OF ONCE THIS ORDINANCE WAS
12:19:12PM CREATED THAT HAS SORT OF BEEN THE BANDWAGON AND THE
12:19:16PM AUTOMATIC GO-TO.
12:19:17PM SOME OF THE COMMENTS I RECEIVED BACK FROM SOME OF THE
12:19:19PM DEPARTMENTS ARE HONORARY NAMINGS, SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION
12:19:24PM SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS BIG AND IMPACTFUL.
12:19:29PM IT SHOULD BE THE EXCEPTION AND NOT THE RULE THAT EVERYBODY
12:19:34PM GETS HONORED WITH A STREET NAME OR EVERYONE GETS HONORED
12:19:37PM WITH A PARK NAME.
12:19:38PM THERE ARE OTHER WAYS AND OTHER NAMINGS THAT WE CAN DO THAT
12:19:43PM ARE MINOR.
12:19:45PM I USE MINOR WITH A SMALL M.
12:19:48PM THERE ARE MAJOR ASSETS AND MINOR ASSETS.
12:19:50PM AND THEN WE HAVE ASSETS THAT ARE SMALLER THAN WHAT IS IN
12:19:53PM HERE.
12:19:53PM WE JUST TALKED ABOUT BENCHES, BUT THERE CAN BE OTHER THINGS.
12:19:57PM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE ITS OWN POLICY FOR THE
12:20:00PM SMALLER THINGS IF IT IS ABOUT THE PARKS.
12:20:02PM I'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING AND STAFF HAS DONE A LOT OF SORT OF
12:20:06PM BRAINSTORMING ABOUT WHAT ARE IDEAS AND PARKS AND REC IS
12:20:11PM POSSIBLY LOOKING AT HISTORICAL INTERESTING MARKERS THAT WE
12:20:16PM MIGHT PUT THAT WE MIGHT RECOGNIZE SOMEBODY'S CONTRIBUTION IN
12:20:19PM AN AREA WITHOUT OFFICIALLY NAMING SOMETHING AFTER THAT
12:20:22PM PERSON.
12:20:23PM SO WE WANT TO ALSO JUST REMIND YOU, THERE ARE OTHER
12:20:29PM OPPORTUNITIES.
12:20:29PM IF YOU FEEL SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE RECOGNIZED BUT MAYBE IT
12:20:32PM DOESN'T COME TO THAT FULL LEVEL OF HAVING SOMETHING AS BIG
12:20:36PM AS A STREET NAMED OR A FULL ASSET NAMED AFTER THEM.
12:20:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN'T NAME THAT PART OF THE DAIS AFTER
12:20:46PM YOU, MR. SHELBY.
12:20:47PM SO SORRY.
12:20:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION
12:20:53PM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE IT BETTER.
12:20:55PM IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT NOW AND TODAY AND CHECKING OUR EGOS, BUT
12:20:59PM EVEN FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS PUTTING A GOOD POLICY IN PLACE
12:21:03PM SO EVEN THAT ONE TIME DOES REALLY MATTER BECAUSE THINK ABOUT
12:21:07PM IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED BEFORE US.
12:21:11PM THAT COULD HAVE BEEN RACIALIZED.
12:21:15PM IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH BIGGER HAD WE BEEN FORCED TO MAKE
12:21:19PM A DECISION.
12:21:20PM WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
12:21:22PM WE HAVE TOO MANY OTHER THINGS IN CITY BUSINESS TO ADDRESS
12:21:25PM NOT TO GET CAUGHT UP IN THE WEEDS OF IT BECOMING A
12:21:28PM BLACK-AND-WHITE ISSUE OR BLACK AND HISPANIC ISSUE OR ANY
12:21:32PM KIND OF ISSUE REGARDING RACE BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE
12:21:35PM DEFINITELY HAPPENED ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
12:21:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:21:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT WE MAKE A MOTION
12:21:42PM TO HAVE RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT FOR ANY -- I'M NOT MAKING
12:21:46PM THEM.
12:21:46PM JUST SUGGESTING THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY ITEM.
12:21:48PM THAT FOR ANY HONORARY RENAMING THERE BE AT LEAST TWO OR
12:21:52PM THREE LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION TO BE PRESENTED WITH IT AS
12:21:55PM WELL AS A MEMORANDUM TWO WEEKS BEFORE MAKING THE MOTION, THE
12:21:58PM COUNCIL MEMBER MUST SUBMIT AT THE COUNCIL MEETING AND THAT
12:22:02PM COMES BACK TO US PROMPTLY BECAUSE I'M WORKING ON ONE RIGHT
12:22:06PM NOW THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME, BY THE WAY.
12:22:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:22:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, THE PUBLIC COMMENT, HAVING SOMEBODY
12:22:13PM HERE SPEAKING, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT RESPECTFULLY.
12:22:17PM BUT THE OTHER TWO I'M GOOD WITH.
12:22:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAKE A MOTION THAT MARTY SHELBY WORK
12:22:24PM WITH STAFF TO --
12:22:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
12:22:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT YOU TO DO IT WITH STAFF.
12:22:33PM I WANT YOU TO CALL ALL OF THE CITY STAFF TOGETHER.
12:22:37PM EVERYBODY.
12:22:37PM INCLUDING THE MAYOR.
12:22:37PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:22:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THE OLD MAYOR.
12:22:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APOLOGIZE FOR CALLING THE MEN ON THE
12:22:50PM DAIS NICE.
12:22:52PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:22:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAKE A MOTION THAT MARTIN SHELBY WORK ON
12:22:57PM LANGUAGE BASED ON THE INFORMATION HE HEARD AT THIS MEETING
12:23:00PM AND REPORT BACK AT THE WORKSHOP ON --
12:23:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
12:23:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, TOO MUCH.
12:23:08PM I'M THINKING SEPTEMBER 26.
12:23:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:23:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
12:23:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM WILLING TO TAKE OFF TWO ITEMS FROM JUNE 6
12:23:19PM TO GET THIS DONE ON JUNE 6.
12:23:21PM YOU HAVE MY WORD OF HONOR AS A GENTLEMAN.
12:23:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TWO?
12:23:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS OTHER ITEMS -- LOOK AT
12:23:30PM YOUR CALENDAR FOR JUNE 6, THE NAME OF THE MAKER OF THE
12:23:33PM MOTION NOW APPEARS SO WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER --
12:23:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE OF THE PERSONS WHO HAS MOST OF THE
12:23:41PM STUFF IS NOT HERE TODAY.
12:23:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH.
12:23:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'LL BRING IT TO HIS ATTENTION.
12:23:49PM HE CAN DO IT BY MEMO, PERHAPS.
12:23:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:23:55PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: DON'T THINK STAFF IS WRITING A MEMO.
12:23:58PM JUST KIDDING.
12:23:58PM WHILE DECEMBER AND ALL OF THAT WAS UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT, I
12:24:04PM JUST, WHATEVER WE PUT IN, IN ALL OF THIS, WE'RE NOT IN A
12:24:10PM POSITION TO GO OUT AND RESEARCH WHO ELSE MIGHT BE ATTACHED
12:24:14PM TO.
12:24:14PM THAT COMES OUT TO YOUR CONNECTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND
12:24:18PM THEIR SUPPORT AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE
12:24:21PM IT GETS TO THAT LEVEL.
12:24:22PM AGAIN, THAT WAS VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT WE ENDED UP IN THAT.
12:24:27PM BUT EVERYTHING IS BASED ON WHOEVER IS THE PERSON BEING
12:24:30PM CONSIDERED.
12:24:31PM WE DON'T HAVE -- IT WOULD BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY OF
12:24:34PM US TO GO OUT AND TRY AND RESEARCH WHO ELSE OUT THERE MIGHT
12:24:37PM BE ASSOCIATED WITH SUCH AN ASSET, UNLESS IT WAS SOMETHING
12:24:40PM SUPER FAMOUS.
12:24:42PM AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PREVENT THAT FROM EVER
12:24:47PM HAPPENING AGAIN.
12:24:48PM HOPEFULLY ENOUGH DISCUSSION AHEAD OF TIME WOULD BRING SOME
12:24:51PM OF THOSE POTENTIAL ISSUES TO LIGHT SO THAT THEY CAN BE
12:24:56PM DISCUSSED AND ADDRESSED BEFORE IT EVER GETS TO A FORMAL
12:25:00PM ACTION.
12:25:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EVEN WITHIN THE DISTRICT, FOR ME, IF THIS
12:25:05PM WAS THE CASE FOR ME NOT JUST GETTING THE LETTER OF
12:25:08PM RECOMMENDATION, BUT I WOULD ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE WITH THE
12:25:10PM COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY TO SAY, HEY,
12:25:14PM THIS IS HAPPENING.
12:25:15PM IF YOU ALL HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT IT OR
12:25:18PM IF YOU ARE COSIGNING ON IT, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, JUST
12:25:22PM TO MINIMIZE ANY PARTICULAR CONTROVERSY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE
12:25:27PM MORE EYES ON IT.
12:25:28PM HE TOLD ME TO TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
12:25:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU DID.
12:25:34PM YOU'RE GOOD.
12:25:35PM YES.
12:25:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY, THAT IS A GOOD POINT AND SOMETHING
12:25:39PM BROUGHT UP WITH THAT ISSUE IS THAT THE COMMUNITY WASN'T
12:25:43PM NOTIFIED.
12:25:44PM I THINK ALONG WITH THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT THE
12:25:47PM COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULD BRING FORWARD INFORMATION BASICALLY
12:25:52PM CERTIFYING THAT THEY HAVE SPOKEN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
12:25:56PM WOULD BE AFFECTED, WHETHER IT BE A STREET OR A PARK OR
12:25:59PM WHATEVER.
12:26:00PM I THINK THAT HAS TO BE PART OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE,
12:26:03PM MR. SHELBY, THAT BASICALLY -- YEAH, THAT THAT CERTIFIES THAT
12:26:08PM THAT COUNCIL MEMBER AND THEN NAME THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:26:11PM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GET A LETTER OR SOMETHING FROM THE
12:26:14PM NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING WE KNOW ABOUT THIS.
12:26:17PM WE'RE OKAY WITH IT.
12:26:18PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
12:26:19PM MAYBE THAT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION.
12:26:22PM HAS TO BE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE AREA FOR WHICH THE
12:26:27PM NAMING IS GOING TO OCCUR.
12:26:29PM AND ABSENT THAT, IT WOULD GO TO THAN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS
12:26:34PM THAT DON'T HAVE REPRESENTATION.
12:26:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OH, MY GOODNESS.
12:26:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST SAYING.
12:26:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN I WANT TO RENAME TAMPA CHARLIE-VILLE.
12:26:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BETTER HAVE IT VETTED BY THE POLICE
12:26:47PM DEPARTMENT.
12:26:47PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:26:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHARLIE-VILLE BUCCANEERS.
12:26:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SECOND WITH A MOTION IF JUNE 6.
12:27:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUNE 6.
12:27:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY TELL ME THEY'LL GO THROUGH THIS AND
12:27:07PM CULL THE SCHEDULE.
12:27:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
12:27:08PM AYE.
12:27:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUNE 6 IS TO FULL FOR ME.
12:27:14PM I CAN'T DO IT.
12:27:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU'RE JOKING, RIGHT?
12:27:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY TELL ME HE WILL CALL ONE OF THE
12:27:25PM COUNCILPERSONS NOT HERE.
12:27:26PM THE MOTION IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTS ATTORNEY MARTY
12:27:31PM SHELBY TO COME BACK ON JUNE 6 WITH A PROPOSED RULES OF
12:27:39PM PROCEDURE FOR RENAMING, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE INPUT THEY
12:27:43PM HAVE RECEIVED FROM CITY COUNCIL ON THIS DAY, MAY 23.
12:27:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
12:27:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO
12:27:52PM WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
12:27:53PM IT IS 12:30, IF YOU ALL WANT TO KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING.
12:27:57PM YES, MA'AM.
12:27:58PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
12:28:00PM I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO START
12:28:03PM DELEGATING MORE TASKS TO US THAT WE NEED AN ASSISTANT.
12:28:09PM I AGREE.
12:28:10PM I THINK THAT HAVING MULTIPLE RECOMMENDATIONS IS ALWAYS A
12:28:14PM GOOD THING.
12:28:15PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MAKE THIS CONVERSATION TAKE
12:28:17PM PLACE, BUT WHEN TEACHERS OR OTHER FOLKS IN THEIR PARTICULAR
12:28:22PM INDUSTRY WIN AWARDS, THEY HAVE TO GET MULTIPLE
12:28:25PM RECOMMENDATIONS.
12:28:26PM AND SO HAVING MORE PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS IS
12:28:31PM ALWAYS GOOD.
12:28:35PM I'M NEW HERE, SO I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
12:28:38PM GOTTEN THINGS NAMED AFTER THEM.
12:28:40PM THE ONLY PERSON I EVER MET IN THE CITY THAT I THOUGHT WAS
12:28:43PM WORTHY OF HAVING SOMETHING NAMED AFTER HER WAS LISA CHESHIRE
12:28:46PM WHO DID A LOT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND A LOT FOR VETERANS.
12:28:51PM I KNOW I COULD PROBABLY HAVE A HUNDRED LETTERS OF
12:28:53PM RECOMMENDATION FOR HER.
12:28:54PM I THINK THAT IS A VERY REALISTIC EXPECTATION TO HAVE TEN, AT
12:29:00PM LEAST, BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY IS WORTHY OF US CHANGING THE NAME
12:29:05PM OF A STREET FOR, THEY HAVE TOUCHED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE'S
12:29:11PM LIVES, NOT JUST TEN.
12:29:12PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THEM THE HONOR THEY SERVE
12:29:15PM AND WE CAN'T EXPECT STAFF TO BE THE FBI, BUT IF YOU'RE
12:29:20PM GETTING THAT MANY RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE ARE GOING TO BE
12:29:23PM ENOUGH PEOPLE TOUCHING ENOUGH OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE --
12:29:27PM THAT IF THERE IS SOMETHING IN AN UNDERCURRENT, IT'S GOING TO
12:29:30PM COME UP.
12:29:31PM THANK YOU.
12:29:31PM I LOOK FORWARD TO MY ASSISTANT.
12:29:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:29:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:29:35PM AYE.
12:29:36PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:29:37PM COUNCIL, WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO GO.
12:29:49PM GO AHEAD, MR. REMER.
12:29:50PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:29:51PM I THINK WE CAN DO THIS IN LESS THAN TEN MINUTES.
12:29:53PM WHIT REMER, SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE OFFICER.
12:29:58PM ITEM THREE TODAY, AND I WILL BE JOINED BY BRIAN KNOX.
12:30:03PM I'LL TAKE THE FIRST PART OF THE PRESENTATION AND BRIAN WILL
12:30:05PM TAKE THE SECOND PART.
12:30:07PM IF WE COULD HAVE THE SLIDE SHOW PULLED UP, PLEASE.
12:30:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREAT, GREAT.
12:30:11PM >> IF HE CAN HAVE THE SLIDE SHOW PULLED UP, PLEASE.
12:30:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS MY MOTION?
12:30:17PM >> YOUR MOTION.
12:30:17PM WE WILL TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS TODAY.
12:30:19PM WE WILL TALK OF EXTREME HEAT AND TALK ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF
12:30:22PM EXTREME HEAT IN RELATIONSHIP WITH THE URBAN TREE CANOPY.
12:30:28PM THIS MOTION IS GREAT TIMING BECAUSE THE CITY OF TAMPA IS
12:30:31PM WORKING ON FINALIZING A NEW POLICY PLAYBOOK FOCUSED ON
12:30:36PM EXTREME HEAT.
12:30:37PM AND -- LET'S SEE --AND EXTREME HEAT IS A REAL PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT.
12:30:45PM IMPORTANTLY, HEAT IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF WEATHER-RELATED
12:30:52PM DEATHS.
12:30:52PM SO STORM SURGE AND FLOODING TEND TO BE WHAT COME TO MIND
12:30:57PM WHEN WE THINK OF NATURAL DISASTERS AND LOSS OF LIFE.
12:31:01PM AND ALSO TORNADOES AND EXTREME HEAT.
12:31:04PM ESPECIALLY DURING MAJOR HEAT WAVES CAUSES MORE LOSS OF LIFE
12:31:09PM THAN ANY OTHER EXTREME WEATHER EVENT CITY PLAYS AN IMPORTANT
12:31:16PM ROLE IN REDUCING THOSE DEATHS AND IMPACT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
12:31:19PM SO WORKING ALONGSIDE PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS AND CITY
12:31:25PM DEPARTMENTS THAT PLAY A ROLE IN THIS, THE CITY OF TAMPA IS
12:31:28PM WORKING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE WHICH, EVEN JUST A COUPLE OF
12:31:31PM YEARS AGO HAD NOT SEEMED TO RISE TO THE LEVEL OF
12:31:35PM SIGNIFICANCE THAT IT IS NOW WITH -- WITH THE AMOUNT OF
12:31:37PM DEATHS THAT WE ARE SEEING ESPECIALLY ACROSS EUROPE, THE
12:31:40PM SOUTHWEST, AND WE KNOW THAT HERE IN FLORIDA, YOU KNOW,
12:31:45PM WEATHERIZATION OF HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WILL PLAY A
12:31:48PM VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ROLE TO STOP THE WARMING CYCLE.
12:31:51PM I WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT I MEAN FOR THAT IN A
12:31:54PM MOMENT.
12:31:54PM WHAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, THE CITY PLAY AS VERY IMPORTANT
12:31:58PM ROLE ESPECIALLY IN OUR PUBLIC SPACES REDUCING IMPACTS TO THE
12:32:02PM COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE POPULATIONS.
12:32:04PM A COUPLE OF INTERVENTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT SEE CITIES AROUND
12:32:08PM THE COUNTRY STARTING TO IMPLEMENT ARE INCREASING THE URBAN
12:32:14PM TREE CANOPY.
12:32:16PM WE TALKED BEFORE UP HERE OF HOW DIFFICULT IT CAN BE TO PLANT
12:32:23PM TREES ON APPEAR URBAN CONTEXT.
12:32:25PM TREES MAY NOT ALWAYS BE THE ANSWER AND BUILD SHADE AS A
12:32:29PM GREAT TOOL.
12:32:29PM ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS HOSTING FIVE
12:32:32PM INTERNATIONAL CITIES TO DISCUSS SUSTAINABILITY AND
12:32:34PM RESILIENCE PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT HOUSTON, PHOENIX, NEW
12:32:44PM YORK, TORONTO, AND MEXICO CITY ARE ALL IMPLEMENTING.
12:32:47PM I LEARNED YESTERDAY FROM THE CITY OF PHOENIX, THEY ACTUALLY
12:32:50PM HAVE LITERALLY A BUILT SHADE DEPARTMENT WITHIN THEIR
12:32:56PM DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND REC.
12:32:58PM NOT EVEN URBAN FORESTERS, BUT BUILT TRADE FOR TREES WHEN
12:33:03PM SHADE IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
12:33:04PM HYDRATION, SPLASH PADS, MISTERS.
12:33:11PM THEY HAVE BENEFITS BUT OFTENTIMES THEY ARE NOT THE RIGHT
12:33:15PM FIT.
12:33:15PM WE LOOKED AT CITIES THAT OPENED UP COOLING CENTERS BEFORE.
12:33:18PM WE DID THAT LAST SUMMER FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER.
12:33:21PM THE PARKS AND REC SUPPORTED THAT.
12:33:23PM WE HAVE A STEADY FLOW OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THOSE COOLING
12:33:29PM CENTERS.
12:33:29PM WHAT WE LEARNED THAT THEY DON'T COME THROUGH THE COOLING
12:33:33PM CENTERS BUT GO TO WALMART INSTEAD.
12:33:37PM HOW DO WE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITIES AND STAND UP A COOLING
12:33:40PM CENTER MA THAT I SEEM LIKE A POLICY.
12:33:42PM AS MISS POYNOR POINTS OUT A LOT, SOMETIMES COMMON SENSE
12:33:48PM MAKES SENSE AS WELL.
12:33:49PM WE ARE TRYING TO ADAPT THESE THINGS TO SEE WHAT WORKS.
12:33:55PM CITY OF TAMPA IS EXPECTED TO SEE MORE THAN 100 DAYS OF THE
12:33:59PM HEAT INDEX GOING OVER 100 DEGREES IN THE NEXT DECADE.
12:34:07PM IT IS REALLY GOING TO BE A PROBLEM AND WE GOT TO GET AHEAD
12:34:11PM OF THIS AS A CLIMATE CHANGE THREAT.
12:34:16PM SO WITH SUPPORT FROM THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCE, THE
12:34:19PM CITY OF TAMPA SERVED IN A -- IN A PARTNER ROLE, BUT THE
12:34:22PM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE RESILIENT CITY CATALYST
12:34:26PM HOSTING THOSE FIVE CITIES HELP US DEVELOP THIS TAMPA HEAT
12:34:29PM RESILIENCE PLAYBOOK.
12:34:31PM FOCUSED ON EAST TAMPA WHERE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON MADE THE
12:34:35PM MOTION.
12:34:35PM ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THE POLICIES AND
12:34:39PM TOOLS EXPLORED FOR THE HEAT PLAYBOOK COULD BE USED AT EVERY
12:34:43PM CITY OF TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD AND FRANKLY, IN EACH CITY THAT
12:34:46PM WANTS TO START LOOKING AT THIS.
12:34:47PM THIS WAS DEVELOPED FOR TAMPA SPECIFICALLY.
12:34:50PM I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FOUR OVERARCHING GOALS.
12:34:57PM A PREVIEW OF THAT TODAY.
12:34:59PM THE FOUR GOALS ARE UP HERE ON THE SCREEN.
12:35:01PM REDUCED HEAT -- HEAT RISK FOR TAMPANIAN.
12:35:07PM REDUCE AUTO HEAT, MAXIMIZE THE TREE CANOPY AND MINIMIZE
12:35:13PM IMPACT FOR THE HEAT.
12:35:15PM >> WE SEE TAMPANIANS.
12:35:18PM IT IS TAMPINOS.
12:35:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I LIKE TAMPANIAN.
12:35:26PM >> DEPENDS ON WHAT SIDE OF THE RIVER.
12:35:29PM I LIKE TO SAY PEOPLE FROM TAMPA.
12:35:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHOA, WHOA, WHOA!
12:35:34PM [LAUGHTER]
12:35:36PM THEY ARE ALL PEOPLE.
12:35:36PM BUT GOOD NOTE.
12:35:37PM THANK YOU.
12:35:38PM I PULLED OUT A COUPLE OF THE POLICIES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN
12:35:42PM THESE CHAPTERS TO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU ALL.
12:35:44PM NUMBER ONE, POLICY 1.3, EXPAND ACCESS TO THE WEATHERIZATION
12:35:49PM WEATHER EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS.
12:35:51PM I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY I TALKED OF THE WARMING CYCLE.
12:35:54PM WHAT WE SEE IS INCREASE TEMPERATURES OUTSIDE.
12:35:57PM YOU KNOW HUMANS CAN THEN GO INSIDE AND SEEK REPRIEVE FROM
12:36:01PM THAT.
12:36:01PM AND IN DOING SO, THEY ARE GOING INTO AN AIR-CONDITIONED
12:36:05PM SPACE.
12:36:05PM THAT AIR CONDITIONING IS RUNNING OFF ELECTRICITY.
12:36:08PM OFTEN THAT ELECTRICITY IS BEING FUELED BY FOSSIL FUELS WHICH
12:36:12PM IS INCREASING THE GREENHOUSE GAS EFFECT.
12:36:15PM WE SEE THIS ENDLESS CYCLE.
12:36:16PM TRANSITION TO RENEWABLE ENERGY WHEN IT MAKES SENSE.
12:36:21PM AND OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAM.
12:36:23PM THANKFULLY THE CITY HAS OUR FIRST ENERGY MANAGER AND WORK ON
12:36:28PM LOOKING AT OUR OVER 2,000 ACCOUNTS AND THE $25 MILLION THAT
12:36:32PM WE SPEND A YEAR ON TECO BILLS.
12:36:34PM I LIKE TO GIVE THE ANALOGY THAT WE HAVE A WATER CONSERVATION
12:36:38PM DEPARTMENT.
12:36:38PM WE SELL POWER TO PEOPLE.
12:36:40PM WE MAKE MONEY DOING THAT AND SIX PEOPLE ON OUR WATER
12:36:46PM MANAGEMENT TEAM.
12:36:46PM NOBODY FOCUSING ON ENERGY AND WE BUY THAT FROM A THIRD-PARTY
12:36:51PM COMPANY.
12:36:51PM I'M EXCITED TO HAVE A ENERGY MANAGER TO GO INTO HANNA AVENUE
12:36:55PM AND GO INTO OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS, WORKING WITH THE MOBILITY
12:36:58PM DEPARTMENT WITH EV CHARGING.
12:37:00PM HAD RENEWABLE ENERGY UNDER THE ACT.
12:37:03PM A HUGE POSITION THAT PAYS FOR ITSELF IN A MATTER OF MONTHS.
12:37:07PM THAT IS GREAT.
12:37:07PM THAT 123478 ONE.
12:37:08PM NUMBER TWO, INCREASING ACCESS TO COOLER SPACES.
12:37:11PM WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANS.
12:37:13PM OPENING PARKS AND REC AS COOLING CENTER.
12:37:17PM WORKING WITH TAMPA HOPE AND OTHER UN SHELTERED GROUPS DURING
12:37:25PM THE HOT DAYS THAT WE ARE PROVIDING SPACES.
12:37:27PM EVEN AS A KIND OF BRIDGE BACK TO NUMBER ONE.
12:37:30PM LAST YEAR WE USED OUR ALERT TAMPA SYSTEM FOR THE FIRST TIME
12:37:34PM EVER TO ALERT FOLKS OF AN EXTREME HEAT DAY.
12:37:36PM WE DON'T WANT TO OVERUTILIZE THAT SYSTEM BUT THE TOOL TO
12:37:40PM REACH THOSE VULNERABLE POPULATION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
12:37:43PM MAXIMIZING THE BENEFIT OF THE TREE CANOPY.
12:37:46PM EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT STANDING UNDER A TREE IS MUCH MORE
12:37:50PM COMFORTABLE THAN UNSHADED AREAS.
12:37:52PM ADAPTING OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT TO THE IMPACTS OF EXTREME
12:37:55PM HEAT.
12:37:56PM WE ARE STILL LEARNING OF THE COOL STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.
12:37:58PM THERE ARE DIFFERENT PAINTS, DIFFERENT MATERIALS.
12:38:01PM SOME OF THEM ARE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN OTHERS.
12:38:03PM SOME OF THEM GIMMICKY.
12:38:05PM WE WANT TO FOCUS ON PROVEN TECHNOLOGIES.
12:38:08PM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT WASTING MONEY ON THINGS THAT
12:38:11PM DON'T WORK.
12:38:12PM BUT WE WANT TO EXPLORE THAT.
12:38:13PM THIS IS A PREVIEW OF WHAT THE HEAT PLAYBOOK WILL LOOK LIKE.
12:38:17PM I -- I SHOWED THIS SLIDE TO YOU ALL BEFORE, BUT THIS IS --
12:38:22PM THIS IS WHERE WE KIND OF USE DATA TO DRIVE DECISION MAKING.
12:38:26PM EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE IT IS HOT AND NOT HOT.
12:38:30PM AND WE HAVE FUNDING TO GO IN AND DO SOME OF THIS VERY
12:38:33PM DETAILED RESEARCH AND LOOK AT SOCIAL VULNERABILITY IN
12:38:36PM ADDITION TO THE TREE CANOPY.
12:38:39PM WE ARE LOOKING AT PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS, AGE, FOLKS THAT
12:38:42PM DON'T DRIVE, THE ELDERLY, AND OVERLAYING THOSE IMPACTS
12:38:45PM ESPECIALLY IN EAST TAMPA CAN THE TREE CANOPY AND MAKE SURE
12:38:50PM IF THERE ARE CERTAIN PARTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
12:38:53PM POPULATIONS THAT WE SHOULD BE TARGETING AND I AM REALLY
12:38:56PM EXCITED -- AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A MOCK RENDERING.
12:39:01PM WE ARE WORKING TO APPLY A MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GRANT
12:39:05PM FOCUSED ON EXTREME HEAT.
12:39:07PM PUBLIC SAFETY AND FOOD ACCESS TO AN EXTENT ALONG EAST TAMPA
12:39:12PM AND THE 22nd STREET CORRIDOR AND THIS WILL BE A MAJOR, I
12:39:15PM THINK, SIGNAL THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS TAKING THIS
12:39:17PM SERIOUSLY AND PROVIDING SOLUTIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND
12:39:21PM HOPEFULLY WE CAN TAKE THIS TYPE OF EXAMPLE FOR FUNDING AND
12:39:26PM REPLICATE IT OVER THE CITY SUCCESSFULLY.
12:39:28PM THAT'S -- THAT IS THE CONCLUSION OF MY PRESENTATION.
12:39:30PM BRIAN KNOX WILL COME UP AND TALK ABOUT A SPECIFIC STUDY THAT
12:39:35PM THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATED IN TO SHOW WITH
12:39:39PM ACTUAL DATA HOW -- HOW CITY FOREST ACTUALLY DO CONTRIBUTE TO
12:39:45PM COOLING.
12:39:45PM BUT I JUST WANT TO PAUSE THERE.
12:39:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PAUSE FOR A SECOND.
12:39:48PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:39:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:39:51PM THIS -- THIS IS GREAT AND I HOPE THAT SOME OF THIS IS ACTUALLY
12:39:58PM -- I HAVE WRITTEN A NOTE HERE.
12:39:59PM I HOPE SOME OF THIS MAKES INTO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
12:40:05PM DISCUSSION, BECAUSE BUILDING HOUSES TO FOCUS ON CLIMATE
12:40:07PM CHANGE.
12:40:07PM MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 2007.
12:40:11PM SOUTH-FACING WINDOWS ARE TEENY TINY.
12:40:16PM ALL OTHER WINDOWS IN MY HOUSE ARE COVERED BY A PORCH.
12:40:18PM I NEVER PAID $100 FOR AN ELECTRIC BILL.
12:40:21PM IT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.
12:40:23PM STUFF LIKE THAT WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE.
12:40:28PM I AM CURIOUS ABOUT SOME OF THE GRANTS WE ARE GETTING A GRANT
12:40:37PM FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HELP WEATHERIZE PEOPLE'S
12:40:40PM HOMES OR ARE REDOING THAT OURSELVES.
12:40:43PM >> A GREAT QUESTION AND WHAT I HAVE WORKED ON IN FOUR YEARS
12:40:47PM IN MY ROLE.
12:40:47PM A STATE FUNDED PROGRAM BY TAMPA HILLSBOROUGH ACTION PLAN.
12:40:52PM THAT RELATIONSHIP NO LONGER EXISTS WITH THE STATE AND THE
12:40:58PM WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM WAS SHIFTED TO A ENTITY BASED IN
12:41:02PM ORLANDO.
12:41:06PM I'M FRUSTRATED THERE IS NOT.
12:41:07PM STATE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR WEATHERIZATION THAT GOES THROUGH
12:41:10PM THE NONPROFIT APPLICATION AGENCIES.
12:41:12PM THEY NEED TO DO BETTER OF GETTING INTO EAST TAMPA AND
12:41:15PM PROVIDING THESE RESOURCES A LOT OF MONEY AND MORE MAID
12:41:24PM POSSIBLE FOR WEATHERIZATION AND NOT MAKING IT INTO OUR
12:41:26PM COMMUNITY.
12:41:26PM AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO PUT PRESSURE ON OUR AGENCIES TO GET
12:41:30PM INTO OUR COMMUNITIES.
12:41:30PM THERE IS ALSO NOW A SOLAR FOR ALL PROGRAM THAT THE CITY --
12:41:35PM THAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA -- A GROUP -- NOT THE STATE OF
12:41:40PM FLORIDA, BUT A GROUP OF ENTITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA
12:41:42PM WERE AED $156 MILLION TO DO LOW INCOME SOLAR AND ROOF
12:41:49PM REPLACEMENT.
12:41:49PM PARTIAL ROOF REPLACEMENT.
12:41:53PM SOME OF THAT MONEY IN THOSE PROGRAMS ARE STARTING TO MAKE
12:41:55PM THEIR WAY HERE.
12:41:56PM A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.
12:41:58PM A LOT OF MONEY IN THE STATE FOR THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS IN
12:42:01PM FACT.
12:42:01PM THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS INCLUDING A
12:42:05PM $356 MILLION GRANT FOR -- FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY REBATES THAT
12:42:12PM PREVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN RECORDED BY THE PRESS THAT THE STATE
12:42:14PM HAVE DECLINED.
12:42:15PM IT THAT APP THAT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF N IS PULLING
12:42:20PM THOSE FUNDS AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
12:42:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WONDERFUL.
12:42:27PM HOME REHAB.
12:42:28PM WE DO ROOFS AND ACs.
12:42:31PM BUT TO SAY WHILE WE ARE HERE, HELPING YOU REPLACE YOUR
12:42:34PM WINDOWS WOULD BE --
12:42:35PM >> THE OWNER-OCCUPIED PROGRAM IS DOING THAT.
12:42:38PM WE SUPPLEMENTED WITH A FEDERAL GRANT THAT IS LOOKING AT MOLD
12:42:41PM AND AS BUSINESS TOES.
12:42:43PM I PUSHED HARD TO DO EMERGENCY EFFICIENCY ON THIS.
12:42:47PM AND WE DO BLOW TESTS THAT DETECT WHERE THE LEAKS ARE.
12:42:51PM I SHOULD MENTION THAT FICO HAS A FREE WEATHERIZATION AUDIT
12:42:57PM AND WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND DO THE PROGRAMS.
12:42:59PM STATE WEATHERIZATION, UTILITY WEATHERIZATION AND
12:43:03PM OWNER-OCCUPIED.
12:43:04PM THERE ARE RESOURCES AND WE NEED TO BETTER GETTING THE
12:43:07PM INFORMATION OUT AND HOPING THAT THE PLAYBOOK WILL GIVE
12:43:10PM RESOURCES FOR THAT.
12:43:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN WE ARE IN SOMEONE'S HOUSE, SAYS THERE A
12:43:15PM FEDERAL GRANT TO HELP THIS PERSON REPLACE THE WINDOWS.
12:43:18PM NOT PART OF OUR THING BUT LET'S HELP YOU GET THERE.
12:43:21PM >> GLAD YOU SAID THAT.
12:43:23PM ANOTHER GRANT TO, GRANT PROGRAM CALLED THE MY SAFE FLORIDA
12:43:26PM HOME PROGRAM.
12:43:26PM GET THIS.
12:43:27PM LAST YEAR OPEN TO ANYONE.
12:43:28PM NOW INCOME ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.
12:43:30PM THE STATE OF FLORIDA WILL PAY YOU $2 FOR EVERY $1 OF
12:43:35PM MITIGATION RELATING TO ENERGY MITIGATION AND HURRICANE
12:43:39PM PROOFING.
12:43:39PM HURRICANE STRAPS ON OR IMPACT RESISTANT WINDOWS.
12:43:44PM LET'S SAY THE WINDOWS COST $5,000.
12:43:47PM THE STATE OF FLORIDA WILL WRITE YOU A CHECK FOR $10,000.
12:43:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOW ALREADY THAT IS GREAT.
12:43:53PM LET'S GET THE INFO.
12:43:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AS EXCITED ABOUT TRASH?
12:43:58PM >> I GET EXCITED ABOUT TRASH TOO.
12:44:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.
12:44:02PM AS WE ARE LOOKING TO EXPANDS OUR OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB
12:44:08PM PROGRAM, THINGS CAN PERSIST IN A WAY THAT WE AREN'T FUNDING
12:44:11PM BUT LEVERAGE FEDERAL FUNDING.
12:44:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:44:15PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:44:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, WE -- WE
12:44:20PM DISCUSSED, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE THE TASK OF TRYING TO FIND
12:44:23PM PLACES TO PLANT TREES IN THE CITY.
12:44:25PM HOW DIFFICULT THAT IS.
12:44:26PM AND WE TALKED OF THE IDEA OF YOU -- YOU ALL WORKING WITH
12:44:29PM MOBILITY.
12:44:30PM HAS THERE BEEN ANY PROGRESS IN THAT FRONT?
12:44:34PM >> I CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT AND THE
12:44:38PM PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT TO FIND PLACES TO PLANT TREE.
12:44:41PM WE ARE TRYING TOO GET BETTER OF INCLUDING THOSE THINGS
12:44:45PM UP-FRONT IN THOSE PROJECTS AND THE WEST RIVER PROJECT IS
12:44:49PM PLANTING HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF TREES.
12:44:51PM SO THERE ARE -- THERE ARE SYNERGIES THAT HAPPEN THERE.
12:44:54PM YES, SIR.
12:44:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
12:44:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:44:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THE
12:45:00PM PAST AND WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO.
12:45:02PM WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, FIRST OF ALL, THE TREES.
12:45:05PM DECISION MAKING FROM THE COUNCIL WHEN WE APPROVE OR
12:45:08PM DISAPPROVE SOMETHING AND SO MANY TREES THAT HAVE TO BE
12:45:10PM REMOVED.
12:45:11PM AT THAT TIME, I THINK SOMEHOW, THE CITY OR WHOEVER DEVELOPED
12:45:15PM IT SHOULD HAVE A PLAN WHERE THE TREES ARE GOING TO EVERYBODY
12:45:18PM KNOW WHERE IS THEY ARE AT AND HOW MUCH TIME YOU HAVE BEFORE
12:45:20PM YOU PLAN THEM AND WHO CAN TAKE CARE OF THEM FOR THE NEXT
12:45:25PM FIVE TO SIX MONTHS.
12:45:26PM WE DON'T CHECK IN THE TREE LIVES OR DIES?
12:45:31PM I DON'T THINK WE DO.
12:45:32PM HOW DO WE TELL.
12:45:33PM NUMBER ONE.
12:45:34PM NEW CONSTRUCTION, TECO HAS A GREAT PROGRAM WHERE THEY PUT 13
12:45:39PM THINGS IN YOUR HOUSE IN THE ATTIC AND YOU PUT THE NEXT FIVE
12:45:44PM AND IT WORKS VERY WELL.
12:45:46PM NUMBER THREE THEN, ON NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHAT DO WE HAVE
12:45:51PM WITHOUT INCENTIVES OR FOR INCENTIVES TO MAKE THE BUILDINGS
12:45:56PM APPLICABLE TO THE FUTURE OF WHAT IS COMING.
12:45:58PM NEXT, WE ARE BEYOND THE 8-PAUL.
12:46:01PM IT AIN'T MOVING AND PLAYING POOL WITH AND WE ARE NOT HITTING
12:46:04PM IT.
12:46:04PM WE NEED SOMETHING THAT FIXES EXISTING HOUSES AND NEW
12:46:08PM CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME.
12:46:09PM BECAUSE THE NEW ONES ARE NOT HAVING IT.
12:46:11PM I SEE -- I HAVE FRIENDS OF MINE.
12:46:13PM I DON'T CARE IF THEY DON'T LIKE ME OR NOT AND COME HERE AS
12:46:16PM AN ENVIRONMENTALIST AND THEY TELL YOU WHAT THEY WANT BUT
12:46:21PM THEY THEMSELVES HAVEN'T DONE IT.
12:46:23PM THAT BOTHERS ME.
12:46:24PM LIKE HAVING A BALL TEAM WITHOUT A BALL.
12:46:27PM >> MAYBE I CAN WORK BACKWARDS.
12:46:30PM NUMBER THREE, YOU FUNDED LAST TIME IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET --
12:46:34PM ON THE BOOKS SINCE 2008 --
12:46:36PM -- A REBATE REFUND PROGRAM FOR COMMERCIAL OR MIXED USE,
12:46:40PM FAMILY THAT ACHIEVED THE ELITE SILVER RATING OR
12:46:45PM CERTIFICATION JUST LIKE -- JUST LIKE THE CITY HOLDS ITSELF
12:46:49PM TO.
12:46:49PM THERE IS A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET THAT YEAR.
12:46:52PM I AM -- I AM ACTIVELY REACHING OUT TO THOSE PERMITS THAT
12:46:56PM WERE APPROVED THAT INDICATED LEAD CERTIFICATION.
12:47:01PM NOT $250,000 WORTH OF REBATES THAT I CAN REFUND RIGHT NOW.
12:47:06PM THAT IS THE GAP BETWEEN -- BETWEEN FOLKS DOING REGULAR
12:47:09PM CONSTRUCTION AND TO LEAD.
12:47:10PM SO WE HAVE GOT TO GET THE WORD OUT THAT THE REBATE IS
12:47:13PM AVAILABLE AND THE LEAD CONSTRUCTION PAYS FOR ITSELF.
12:47:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOMETHING WE CAN TIE INTO SOMETHING ELSE
12:47:19PM THAT MAKES IT FEASIBLE.
12:47:20PM I AM NOT ASKING ANYBODY TO TAKE CONTROL OF IT AND PAY WITH
12:47:23PM THEIR OWN MONEY.
12:47:24PM BUT GOT TO BE A WAY THAT YOU SAY, IF YOU DO THIS, YOU GET
12:47:27PM SOMETHING HERE.
12:47:28PM AND EVEN IN BUILDING HOUSES, WE SAY WE WANT 10%.
12:47:31PM GET THE 10%.
12:47:33PM 20 BILLION OR WHATEVER IT IS.
12:47:35PM I AM JUST -- I AM TALKING.
12:47:37PM AND IF YOU HAVE -- IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF HOUSING THAT IS
12:47:41PM AFFORDABLE, THE CITY -- THEY WANTS YOU TO PAY SO MUCH
12:47:44PM BECAUSE OF THE 30-YEAR LOAN AND HOW TO PAY IT BACK.
12:47:47PM BUT MAYBE WE CAN CHANGE THAT WITHOUT PAYING MONEY AND GIVE
12:47:49PM THEM ANOTHER 20 OR 30 UNITS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT SO IT PAYS
12:47:53PM FOR THE COST.
12:47:53PM THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS AND IDEAS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
12:47:56PM DISCUSSED.
12:47:56PM >> I THINK THE ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT
12:47:59PM YOU ASKED ABOUT WAS CHECKING ON TREES.
12:48:01PM J.C. REPORTED IN OUR LAST DISCUSSION THAT THERE IS ROOM IN
12:48:07PM THE CODE TO ALLOW THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO GO BACK, UP TO
12:48:11PM A YEAR AFTER THOSE TREES WERE PLANTED, TO MAKE SURE THEY
12:48:17PM WERE STILL ALIVE.
12:48:17PM AGAIN, A QUESTION OF -- OF -- OF HOW WE KIND OF ADMINISTER
12:48:22PM THAT SPOT-CHECK AUDIT PROGRAM.
12:48:24PM I KNOW THAT THIS MORNING, SOME VERY VALID ISSUES AROUND, YOU
12:48:28PM KNOW, KIND OF A LANDSCAPE PLANS AND FEASIBILITY OF WHETHER
12:48:32PM THE TREES BELONG THERE OR NOT.
12:48:34PM WE HAVE GOT SOME WORK TO DO ON THIS, BUT THE EXCITING THING
12:48:37PM IS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT.
12:48:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:48:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:48:40PM YES, SIR?
12:48:42PM YOU HAVE THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION?
12:48:44PM >> YES, SIR.
12:48:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:48:45PM >> ALL RIGHT.
12:48:46PM GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
12:48:47PM BRIAN KNOX, CITY PLANNING.
12:48:49PM THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK OF THE
12:48:53PM PROJECT WE DID BACK IN 2022.
12:48:55PM AND IT WAS THE COOLING CITIES CAMPAIGN.
12:48:57PM WE DID IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH FOREST AND CITIES AND NATURAL
12:49:03PM AREA CONSERVANCY IN NEW YORK CITY.
12:49:06PM SO WE WENT THROUGH THESE BULLETS EARLIER IN THE PREVIOUS
12:49:09PM PRESENTATION, BUT JUST TO RECAP, THERE HAS BEEN A RETURN OF
12:49:13PM RECORD HEAT IN THE UNITED STATES THAT HAS TYPICALLY BEEN TWO
12:49:15PM TO TEN DEGREES HOTTER THAN IN RURAL AREAS.
12:49:19PM AND SO EXTREME HEAT, ONCE AGAIN, IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF
12:49:23PM WEATHER-RELATED DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES.
12:49:25PM BUT WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT BY PLANTING TREES AND EXPANDING
12:49:29PM GREEN SPACE ARE KNOWN TO COMBAT THAT, BUT THE MAGNITUDE OF
12:49:33PM THE BENEFITS HAVE NOT BEEN QUANTIFIED AND THAT IS ONE OF THE
12:49:35PM REASONS WE DECIDED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS STUDY.
12:49:38PM WE JOINED -- WE JOINED THE FOREST AND CITY NETWORK IN 2018.
12:49:44PM AND NOW THERE ARE ABOUT 11 -- 12 CITIES INCLUDING OURSELVES,
12:49:49PM EACH ONE OF US PARTICIPATED IN THIS STUDY.
12:49:51PM AND FROM THERE, WE FOCUSED ON THREE AREAS IN THE TAMPA
12:49:57PM HILLSBOROUGH AREA.
12:49:58PM WE DID THIS STUD IN CONJUNCTION HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
12:50:00PM THE THREE AREAS WERE ROCKY CREEK PARK, TOWN AND COUNTRY, AND
12:50:04PM IN SOUTH TAMPA, MacDILL.
12:50:07PM SO WHAT WE DID WAS PLACE THREE SENSORS ON EACH ONE OF THOSE
12:50:13PM PARKS AND A TOTAL OF NINE SENSORS WERE PLACED.
12:50:16PM THREE CATEGORIES THAT WE PLACED THESE SENSORS IN.
12:50:18PM ONE WAS A LANDSCAPED AREA.
12:50:21PM THE OTHER WAS ARRESTED AREA AND THE THIRD ONE ARRESTED AREA
12:50:26PM AS WELL AND A DEGRADED FORESTED AREA.
12:50:28PM WHAT THAT MEANS MAYBE DEFICIENT OF THREE CRITERIA THAT YOU
12:50:32PM TYPICALLY HAVE WITH ARRESTED AREA AND MAY HAVE INNOVATIVE
12:50:36PM SPECIES AND GAPS AND MAY BE OTHER ISSUES SURROUNDING IT THAT
12:50:40PM WILL LEND IT TO BE DEGRADED.
12:50:42PM AND SO, TYING THIS INTO OUR ECOLOGICAL ANALYSIS WE COMPLETED
12:50:49PM IN 2021, THERE WAS A -- THAT WE LOOKED AT MEETING LAND
12:50:53PM SURFACE TEMPERATURE.
12:50:54PM AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT TREE CANOPY PERCENTAGE AND WE
12:50:57PM DISCOVERED THAT, OF COURSE, AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP WITH
12:51:01PM TREE CANOPY IN RELATION WITH LAND SURFACE TEMPERATURE AND
12:51:05PM TWO AREAS WHERE IT SPELLS OUT WHERE THE ISSUES ARISE.
12:51:08PM ONE IS NEW TAMPA WHERE WE HAVE PLENTY OF GREEN SPACE.
12:51:11PM WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF TREES AND ALSO THE TEMPERATURES ARE
12:51:14PM LOWER IN THAT AREA IN COMPARISON TO THE WEST PART OF TAMPA.
12:51:18PM LOOKING AT WEST SHORE AND THE AIRPORT AREA.
12:51:22PM VERY HOT BECAUSE INTO THE A LOT OF TREES.
12:51:24PM AND SO WE ALSO COMPLETED AN EQUITY ANALYSIS IN OUR -- IN OUR
12:51:32PM ECOLOGICAL ANALYSIS AND WHAT WE LEARNED IS -- WE LOOKED AT
12:51:36PM SEVERAL METRICS.
12:51:37PM WE LOOKED AT NINE OR TEN OF THEM.
12:51:39PM BUT I PULLED OUT A FEW OF THEM TO SORT OF DESCRIBE WHAT
12:51:42PM URBAN HEAT AND CORRELATIONS ARE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:51:48PM WHAT WE LEARNED THAT BOTH NEIGHBORS ARE SUBJECT TO LOWER
12:51:52PM TEMPERATURES.
12:51:52PM LOWER SUMMERTIME TEMPERATURES.
12:51:54PM AND SOME OF OUR -- SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT -- THAT MEET
12:51:59PM THE DEFINITION OF IN POVERTY EXPERIENCE AN INCREASE IN
12:52:04PM SUMMERTIME TEMPERATURES.
12:52:06PM MEANWHILE, RENTERS OR AREAS WITH HIGH CONCENTRATION OF
12:52:11PM RENTERS, THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE LESS TREE CANOPY AND ARE
12:52:15PM LIKELY TO HAVE EXTREME HEAD EVENTS.
12:52:18PM SO THE LAST SLIDES TALKS ABOUT HISPANIC POPULATION.
12:52:27PM WE FUNDS A CORRELATION THOSE WHO IDENTIFY AS HISPANIC HAVE
12:52:31PM LESS TREE CANOPY THAN WITH YOUR HISPANIC RESIDENTS.
12:52:36PM TYING THIS BACK INTO THE STUDY, WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE
12:52:39PM LOWEST AIR TEMPERATURES AND ACROSS THE BOARD, FORESTED AREAS
12:52:46PM HAVE THE LOWEST LANDS SURFACE TEMPERATURES.
12:52:47PM BUT ALSO, WE NOTICED THAT THERE WAS OCCASIONALLY, LIKE, SOME
12:52:51PM BLIPS WHERE WE HAD REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK FROM OUR LANDSCAPED
12:52:55PM AREA.
12:52:56PM SO IT AFFORDED US TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON SOME OF OUR
12:53:01PM LANDSCAPE AREAS BECAUSE THAT CAN KIND OF CREATE A COOLING
12:53:05PM EFFECT IN AREAS WHERE THERE AREN'T ANY TREES AT ALL.
12:53:08PM SO CREATING THOSE COOL CORRIDOR ALSO BE REALLY IMPORTANT.
12:53:11PM AND HOPEFULLY AT THE END OF THIS SLIDE -- THE END OF THIS
12:53:14PM PRESENTATION, I CAN TIE THE LANDSCAPED AREA WITH THE
12:53:17PM FORESTED AREAS ALL TOGETHER TO SUMMARIZE, WHAT OUR ACTIONS
12:53:21PM ARE.
12:53:22PM AND SO -- I DID A BRIEF ANALYSIS OF OTHER CITIES IN THE
12:53:27PM NETWORK.
12:53:28PM THIS IS THE CLOSEST I CAN GET TO OUR TEMPERATURES WITH --
12:53:31PM WITH MIAMI, HOUSTON AND AUSTIN.
12:53:33PM AND SO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR TEMPERATURES, LIKE OUR AVERAGE
12:53:37PM SUMMERTIME TEMPERATURES OF 90 DEGREES, I ALSO PICK THE
12:53:42PM AFTERNOON BECAUSE IT IS AN AREA WHERE YOU ENCOUNTER THE
12:53:45PM HIGHEST EXTREMES OF HEAT.
12:53:48PM AND IN LOOKING AT THAT THE, WE SAW SIGNIFICANT DROPS IN THE
12:53:51PM FORESTED AIR GLASS TEMPERATURES.
12:53:52PM AND THAT WAS -- THAT WAS A VERY, VERY EXCELLENT FIND.
12:53:56PM ONE OF THE AREAS -- WE NOTICE THERE WAS A SIX TO
12:54:00PM EIGHT-DEGREE TEMPERATURE CHANGE.
12:54:01PM AND ONE AREA WE FOUND IT EVEN LOWER THAN THAT AND WE
12:54:05PM COULDN'T REALLY CONCLUDE WHY THAT WAS HAPPENING SO WE DIDN'T
12:54:08PM PUT IT IN AS PART OF THE STUDY.
12:54:11PM THE TAKE-HOME IS THE FORESTED AREA ARE DOING THEIR JOB IF
12:54:15PM THEY ARE DEGRADED FOREST OR HEALTHY FOREST.
12:54:18PM AND IT IS GOING TO BE VERY MORN THAT WE START TO SAVE THOSE
12:54:21PM POCKETS OF AREAS IN TAMPA THAT HAVE HEAVILY FORESTED AIRBNB
12:54:27PM AREAS.
12:54:28PM STARTING TO LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF THOSE FORESTS WILL BE
12:54:31PM VERY IMPORTANT IN OUR ANALYSIS WHEN WE ARE DOING REVIEWS.
12:54:34PM WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT SITES PLANS.
12:54:36PM WHEN WE ARE IN REZONINGS AND OTHER PROCESSES THAT WOULD
12:54:39PM INVOLVE LIKE REVIEWS.
12:54:42PM SO THE TAKEAWAYS ARE THE NATURAL AREAS ARE THE COOLEST GREEN
12:54:46PM SPACES IN THE CITY.
12:54:47PM WE EXPERIENCE LOWER SURFACE TEMPERATURES, LOWER AVERAGE AIR
12:54:51PM TEMPERATURE, THE MAX AIR TEMPERATURES ARE LOWER.
12:54:53PM BUT WE ALSO DO BELIEVE THAT A WELL DESIGNED LANDSCAPE
12:55:00PM STREETSCAPE ASKING HAVE A COOLING EFFECT DURING THE HEAT OF
12:55:03PM THE DAY.
12:55:03PM AND SO ESPECIALLY IN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE TRANSITIONS FROM
12:55:07PM FORESTED AREAS TO ANOTHER FORESTED AREA.
12:55:09PM SOMETIMES WE HAVE TWO FORESTED AREAS AND THERE IS A GAP -- I
12:55:13PM THINK LANDSCAPE TREES CAN REALLY, REALLY PLAY A SIGNIFICANT
12:55:16PM ROLE IN BOOSTING THE COOLING EFFECT OF THOSE FORESTED AREAS.
12:55:21PM AND SO OUR NEXT STEPS.
12:55:23PM WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THE -- THE COOLING -- THE COOLING
12:55:27PM CITY STUDIES WITH FOREST AND CITY.
12:55:30PM WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT FOREST ATTRIBUTES CONTRIBUTE TO THE
12:55:34PM MOST COOLING AND LOOK AT THE RELATIONSHIP OF SURFACE
12:55:37PM TEMPERATURE, GREEN SPACE AND SOCIOECONOMIC FACTORS THAT COME
12:55:40PM WITH THAT.
12:55:40PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
12:55:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:55:44PM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
12:55:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUBLIC COMMENT?
12:55:48PM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA?
12:55:50PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:55:51PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:55:53PM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
12:55:54PM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MAY REQUIRE SOME CODE
12:55:57PM CHANGES.
12:55:58PM FOR EXAMPLE, ENCOURAGING GREEN WALLS -- THAT'S NOT ME.
12:56:03PM ROOFTOP GARDENS.
12:56:13PM MINI PARKS.
12:56:14PM RELAXATION OF THE TREE PLANTING PROGRAM.
12:56:17PM YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, WE AUTHORIZED TREES TO BE A AVAILABLE TO
12:56:22PM RESIDENTS WHO WANTED A TREE.
12:56:23PM A $100 FEE.
12:56:25PM YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SITE PLAN.
12:56:26PM TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE
12:56:30PM TREE.
12:56:30PM JUST GIVE THE TREES AWAY.
12:56:32PM THIS MAKES -- YOU KNOW, YOU MADE THE PROCESS COMPLICATED.
12:56:35PM AND SO WE HAVE THE TREES IN THE TREE BANK THAT CAN'T GET OUT
12:56:40PM INTO THE PUBLIC WHERE PEOPLE WANT THEM.
12:56:41PM POTENTIALLY, YOU USE CRA FUNDS FOR CREATING THESE MINI
12:56:47PM PARKS.
12:56:48PM AND YOU HAVE MONEY IN THE ACCOUNT.
12:56:49PM PREVIOUSLY, THERE WAS OVER $3 MILLION IN THE TREE TRUST FUND
12:56:54PM THAT BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS PAID INTO THE TREE TRUST FUND
12:56:57PM THAT NO ONE COULD ACCOUNT FOR.
12:56:58PM THEY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE THE MONEY WENT.
12:57:00PM IT DIDN'T GO FOR TREES.
12:57:02PM SO ANYWAY, I AM JUST SAYING THAT FREQUENTLY, THE BUILDERS
12:57:07PM GET BLAMED FOR NOT PLANTING TREES OR NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE
12:57:12PM GREEN SPACE THAT IS REQUIRED AND NEEDED.
12:57:14PM AND IT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
12:57:17PM THE MONEY GOES INTO THE ACCOUNT.
12:57:18PM I SPOKE WITH ONE OF OUR ARBORISTS YESTERDAY, AND HE TOLD ME
12:57:23PM HE IS NOT AWARE OF A SINGLE APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN
12:57:26PM PROCESSED FOR THE FREE PLANTING PROGRAM THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO
12:57:29PM BE FREE.
12:57:30PM BECAUSE OF THE -- ALL OF THE COMPLICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH
12:57:35PM THE APPLICATION.
12:57:35PM LASTLY, I WILL THROW THIS OUT.
12:57:38PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO GO BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY,
12:57:41PM INCLUDING THE -- THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION TO HELP WORK IN
12:57:45PM PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY TO CREATE AN ARBOR DAY.
12:57:47PM WHERE THE TREE ALSO BE GIVEN AWAY.
12:57:50PM WHERE, YOU KNOW, SIMPLY PARTNERING UP AND GET THE TREES OUT.
12:57:55PM CREATE THE DAY.
12:57:56PM MAKE IT HAPPEN.
12:57:57PM AND GET THE TREES OUT.
12:58:01PM IT IS JUST -- IT HAS BECOME TOO COMPLICATED TO GIVE AWAY
12:58:05PM TREES AND SIMPLY WHEN YOU ADD THE EPC ON THE MALL THE OTHER
12:58:09PM DAY.
12:58:10PM I THINK THEY HAD LIKE 100 TREES.
12:58:12PM THEY WERE GONE WITHIN 20 TO 30 MINUTES.
12:58:17PM IF THEY DIE, THEY DIE.
12:58:18PM THEY CAN BE REPLACED.
12:58:19PM LET THEM GET OUT AND DON'T SIT IN THE TREE BANK FOREVER.
12:58:23PM ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY SUGGESTIONS FOR YOU AND MY COMMITMENT
12:58:27PM TO GO AND HELP RAISE IN THE BUILDING COMMUNITY A.
12:58:30PM I CO-SPONSORSHIP WITH THE CITY TO CREATE AN ARBOR DAY.
12:58:35PM THANKS.
12:58:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A GREAT IDEA.
12:58:36PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:58:37PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:58:38PM >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
12:58:40PM I WOULD LIKE A LETTER OF COMMENDATION FOR AGREEING WITH
12:58:44PM MICHELINI TODAY.
12:58:44PM [LAUGHTER]
12:58:46PM THE -- THE -- THE BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS PAY ALL THIS MONEY
12:58:53PM INTO THE TREE FUND.
12:58:54PM AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO IT.
12:58:56PM AND SO DO I.
12:58:58PM WHAT HAPPENS TO IT?
12:58:59PM THERE SHOULD BE A SEMI ANNUAL ACCOUNTING.
12:59:02PM HOW MUCH MONEY WENT IN.
12:59:04PM AND EXACTLY HOW THE MONEY WAS SPENT.
12:59:06PM WHY IT WASN'T SPENT.
12:59:08PM WE ARE 100% IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
12:59:12PM IT IS A BIG PROBLEM.
12:59:14PM ALSO, I AM THRILLED THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO START
12:59:18PM EXERCISING ITS OPTION TO FINE THE TREE CUTTERS.
12:59:21PM HAVE YOU EVER GONE TO BE GIVE A CHILD A BATH AND WENT TO
12:59:24PM FILL UP THE BATHTUB.
12:59:25PM THE FIRST THING YOU DO IS CLOSE THE DRAIN.
12:59:27PM IF YOU LEAVE THAT DRAIN OPEN, WHAT HAPPENS?
12:59:30PM NOTHING HAPPENS AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
12:59:35PM 30,000 TREES PLANTED IN -- BY 2030.
12:59:39PM THE TREE GIVEAWAY, THE TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM.
12:59:44PM THE TREE FUND IS MEANINGLESS IF WE DON'T PUT THE STOPPER IN
12:59:49PM THE BATHTUB.
12:59:49PM ALL THESE TREES THAT WE ARE LOSING, LOST 3300 ACRES OF TREES
12:59:54PM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN A TEN-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME FROM 2011
12:59:58PM TO 2021.
12:59:59PM NOW 2024 AND MORE THAN THAT.
01:00:02PM WE CAN NOT PLANT OUR WAY OUT OF THIS PROBLEM.
01:00:04PM GREEN SPACE.
01:00:07PM THERE ARE WAYS TO -- TO -- FOR THE -- FOR THE INTEREST OF
01:00:14PM INTERESTING AND COOLING AND HEALTH AND GREEN SPACE AND AIR
01:00:17PM QUALITY AND CLIMATE MITIGATION TO DOVETAIL WITH THE HOUSING
01:00:22PM CRISIS.
01:00:23PM MORE UNITS.
01:00:24PM IT DOES NOT HAVE THE TO MEAN MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
01:00:29PM FOR INSTANCE, IF -- AND I AM JUST THROWING SOME IDEAS OUT
01:00:32PM THERE.
01:00:33PM IF -- LET'S SAY THE SETBACKS WERE CHANGED ON BUILDING.
01:00:36PM YOU CAN BUILD THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS, AND THEY ARE MORE
01:00:40PM AFFORDABLE, BUT NOW I HAVE PLACED -- A ROOM FOR A TREE AND I
01:00:44PM HAVE A PLACE FOR LANDSCAPING.
01:00:45PM I WAS IN D.C. YESTERDAY.
01:00:47PM MAJOR CITY BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE BUILDINGS.
01:00:51PM THERE IS AS SMALL BUFFER OF GREEN SPACE.
01:00:55PM BEAUTIFUL CITY TREES PROVIDING ALL THIS SHADE.
01:00:59PM AND IT MADE THE CITY SO WONDERFUL AND PROVIDED SO MANY
01:01:02PM BENEFITS.
01:01:02PM WE CAN DO THAT HERE.
01:01:05PM THE TREE CUTTER FINES.
01:01:06PM WE HAVE GOT TO ACTUALLY DO IT.
01:01:09PM AND WE NEED TO HIT THEM HARD.
01:01:11PM THE STATE SAYS $15,000.
01:01:13PM FINE THEM $15,000.
01:01:15PM IF THEY THINK THAT IS TOO MUCH, THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO
01:01:18PM APPEAL TO THE TREE MAGISTRATE.
01:01:20PM AND IF THE TREE MAGISTRATE AGREES IT IS TOO MUCH, THEY CAN
01:01:23PM LOWER IT.
01:01:24PM HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THEY
01:01:26PM STOP ILLEGALLY CUTTING TREES.
01:01:28PM THEY WILL SAY TO THE HOMEOWNER.
01:01:30PM DO OFF TREE PERMIT?
01:01:32PM YOU DON'T, I WILL GET YOU ONE.
01:01:33PM YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT.
01:01:35PM IT IS LIKE A KID IN A CANDY AISLE.
01:01:37PM HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU SAY NO BEFORE YOU LEARN NOT TO ASK
01:01:42PM ANYMORE.
01:01:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
01:01:43PM YES, MA'AM, NEXT SPEAKER.
01:01:44PM YES, MA'AM.
01:01:48PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
01:01:49PM >> I AM ALISON DATE.
01:01:52PM I'M HERE BECAUSE I LOVE THE TREES.
01:01:55PM AND I -- I SPEND A LOT OF TIME OUTSIDE.
01:01:59PM AND IT REALLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU ARE WALKING
01:02:01PM DOWN THAT STREET AND THERE IS A TREE THERE TO GIVE YOU SOME
01:02:03PM SHADE.
01:02:04PM AND I -- AND I -- I THINK THAT THE IDEA THAT WE ARE ENTERING
01:02:10PM A TIME IN OUR LIVES WHERE THERE IS MORE HEAT THAN THERE IS
01:02:14PM NOW IS REALLY SORT OF SCARY.
01:02:16PM SO LET'S DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SAVE THE TREE.
01:02:22PM ESPECIALLY THE LARGE GRAND TREES THAT WE HAVE.
01:02:25PM AND THERE ARE STILL COMING DOWN.
01:02:27PM AND THERE IS A LOT -- THERE IS ALSO A LOT OF PLACES WHERE WE
01:02:31PM COULD BE PLANTING TREES THAT -- THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING
01:02:35PM PLANTED.
01:02:35PM I GO UP AND DOWN BAYSHORE THREE TIMES A WEEK ON A MY BIKE.
01:02:39PM AND THERE ARE A LOT OF SPACE THERE IS THAT NEW TREES COULD
01:02:42PM BE BEING PLANTED BECAUSE THE OLD ONES ARE GOING TO BE TOO
01:02:46PM BIG AND THEY ARE GOING TO DIE EVENTUALLY OR THEY ARE RUNNING
01:02:49PM INTO THE STREET OR THEY CAN GET HIT OR WHATEVER.
01:02:53PM WE NEED TO FILL IN THOSE SPACES AND TO IT BE PUTTING IN
01:02:56PM PLACE WHERE IS THERE AREN'T ANY TREES.
01:02:58PM AND I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.
01:03:00PM I MEAN, THERE IS -- I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL
01:03:04PM PLANTING AREAS AS THIS SHOWS.
01:03:06PM AND THAT WHEN THEY GAVE THEIR PRESENTATION ON THE URBAN TREE
01:03:10PM ANALYSIS, THAT IS WHAT THE PEOPLE SAID.
01:03:12PM AND THIS IS GOING FROM THEIR BOOK THAT, YES, THERE ARE A LOT
01:03:17PM OF POTENTIAL PLACES TO PLANT.
01:03:19PM ONE OF THE REASONS THEY ARE NOT BEING PLANTED, WE DON'T HAVE
01:03:22PM ENOUGH RESOURCES.
01:03:23PM IN OTHER WORDS, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO GO OUT THERE
01:03:26PM TO HELP PLANT THEM AND THEY HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED.
01:03:29PM YOU CAN'T JUST PUT IT OUT THERE AND IT IS GOING TO SURVIVE.
01:03:32PM THOSE ARE COMPLICATIONS.
01:03:34PM SO JUST PLANTING A BUNCH OF TREES AND NOT GIVING THEM THE
01:03:38PM RIGHT ATTENTION OR PLANTING THEM WHERE THEY ARE IN A PLACE
01:03:41PM WHERE THEY CAN THRIVE DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
01:03:44PM ANOTHER THING THAT HAS COME UP RECENTLY IS THAT WE HAVE --
01:03:49PM WE NOW HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY TO REPORT TREES GETTING CUT
01:03:52PM DOWN.
01:03:52PM BUT PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.
01:03:55PM WHEN THEY ARE REPORTING SOMETHING, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT
01:03:59PM THEIR NEIGHBOR NEXT DO ARE TO THEM KNOW THAT THEY ARE REPORT
01:04:02PM BEING THIS OR WHOEVER IS EVER GOING TO BE THERE.
01:04:04PM SO IN OUR LITTLE ORGANIZATION, THEY KEEP SAYING, WELL, YOU
01:04:09PM REPORT IT FOR US.
01:04:10PM BUT WHY ISN'T THE CITY RESPONSIBLE FOR GOING TO LOOK TO SEE,
01:04:15PM IS IT LEGAL?
01:04:17PM THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT RIGHT AWAY.
01:04:19PM WHY DO THE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED?
01:04:22PM BECAUSE I THINK IT MAKES IT A VERY -- VERY TRICKY SITUATION.
01:04:27PM EVEN DANGEROUS SITUATION.
01:04:29PM SO I -- I WOULD LIKE SOMEHOW MAYBE THE TREES COULD BE
01:04:34PM IDENTIFIED THAT ARE -- THAT ARE -- ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CUT
01:04:38PM DOWN.
01:04:38PM THAT THEY ARE PERMITTED.
01:04:40PM THAT THERE COULD BE A SIGN OUT IN FRONT OF THEM.
01:04:42PM THIS IS PERMITTED TO CUT DOWN -- TO BE CUT DOWN AND THE
01:04:47PM OPPOSITE.
01:04:47PM THIS TREE CANNOT BE CUT DOWN MAYBE SOME SIGNS THAT ARE UP
01:04:54PM FOR THE VARIANCE REVIEW, VARIANCE BOARD THAT HAVE SIGNS PUT
01:04:59PM OUT TO IDENTIFY THEM TO THE PUBLIC.
01:05:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:05:02PM YES, MA'AM.
01:05:04PM >> PAGE 69 OF THE TREE REPORT.
01:05:06PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
01:05:12PM BOB WHITMER MADE BEAUTIFUL SIGNS.
01:05:17PM THEY ARE VERY FUNNY.
01:05:18PM THE CITY SHOULD ADOPT THEM.
01:05:20PM IF YOU BUY A CAR, EVEN IF YOU PAY CASH FOR A CAR, YOU HAVE
01:05:24PM TO PUT GAS THAT IT, DO OIL AND MAINTENANCE ON IT.
01:05:27PM I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE TREE FUNDS WHICH HAVE SUBSTANTIAL.
01:05:31PM I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THEM SINCE LAST SEPTEMBER.
01:05:33PM AND I JUST TRIED TO LOOK THEM UP IN THE BUDGET AND I
01:05:36PM COULDN'T FIND THE PAGES ON THERE THAT IGNORES THE CRAP OUT
01:05:40PM OF ME, BUT ANYWAY, YOU GOT ALL THIS MONEY FROM THE TREE FUND
01:05:43PM WE ARE GETTING FROM DEVELOPERS WHERE THEY CAN'T PLANT WHERE
01:05:46PM THEY ARE AT.
01:05:47PM SO I WOULD A THAT TREE FUNDS MONEY SHOULD ALSO BE AT LEAST
01:05:52PM IN SOME PART SUPPORTING THE TREES.
01:05:56PM LET'S GET A WATER TRUCK.
01:05:57PM A GUY WHO WATERS -- WHO DRIVES THE WATER TRUCK AND MAKE SURE
01:06:01PM THAT THOSE TREES GET WATERED.
01:06:03PM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. REMER, THE 100 X 100 LOT YOU NEED TO
01:06:10PM PLANT A GRAND TREE BLOWS MY MIND.
01:06:13PM BECAUSE.
01:06:18PM WHERE ARE THE TREE POLICE IF HE PLANTS IT IN A SMALLER
01:06:22PM PLACE.
01:06:22PM I WANT THAT TREE POLICE TO SHOW THEM LIKE I SHOWED ALL OF
01:06:27PM YOU AT ONE POINT OR THE OTHER WHERE THEY PLANT AND OAK -- A
01:06:31PM LAUREL OAK ON A PIECE OF GROUND THAT WAS NO MORE THAN 3
01:06:36PM FOOT X 3 FOOT.
01:06:38PM I WANT THE TREE POLICE TO COME TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND TELL
01:06:41PM US HOW THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
01:06:43PM MR. REMER CAN'T FIND ENOUGH SPACE TO PLANT THE TREES WE
01:06:47PM HAVE.
01:06:47PM GASTON PARK.
01:06:48PM GOOD EXAMPLE.
01:06:49PM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE PARKING LOT ON THE NORTH
01:06:53PM SIDE OF GANDY, THEY ALSO PLANTED BRAND-NEW TREES IN A
01:06:59PM 3-FOOT X 3-FOOT SPACE.
01:07:01PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
01:07:02PM WHERE ARE THE TREE POLICE.
01:07:04PM WHO WILL CHECK WITH HIM ON THE 100 X 100 AREA VERSUS THAT.
01:07:09PM I WANT TO POINT OUT, YOU MUST COMMUNICATE TO EDUCATE.
01:07:13PM I LEARNED SOME NEW THINGS TODAY BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME I
01:07:16PM HEARD SOMEBODY SAY THEM OUT LOUD.
01:07:19PM YOU ARE NOT COMMUNICATING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU CAN'T
01:07:23PM GET ANYTHING DONE IN THE CITY.
01:07:24PM WE ARE HERE TO COMMUNICATE AND EVERYBODY HERE LOVES A TREE.
01:07:28PM I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A FRICKEN TREE
01:07:33PM FOR THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
01:07:34PM WHY CAN'T I HAVE A TREE?
01:07:36PM WE AGREED TO WATER IT AND WE SAID WE WOULD TAKE TREES.
01:07:40PM WE WERE TOLD FOR OUR SU-1 TO PUT TREE BUFFERS IN AND NOBODY
01:07:47PM WOULD GIVE US A TREE.
01:07:48PM YET WE STILL DON'T HAVE A TREE.
01:07:50PM I ASKED FOR IT HALF A DOZEN TIMES.
01:07:52PM JUST SAYING.
01:07:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GIVE HER A TREE.
01:07:56PM I WANT A TREE.
01:07:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO GIVE HER A TREE.
01:07:59PM >> I AM NOT EVEN A TREE HUGGER.
01:08:00PM THOSE PEOPLE BACK THERE.
01:08:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STEVE, WILL YOU GIVE HER A TREE.
01:08:04PM >> I WILL WORK ON GETTING HER A TREE.
01:08:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I -- ONE OF THE THINGS -- I AM GOING TO PUT
01:08:13PM TOGETHER A LITTLE PRESENTATION OF WHAT I SAW IN CINCINNATI
01:08:16PM AND WHAT I DID AT THE CONGRESS OF URBANISM.
01:08:19PM I DID GO TO A RESTORATIVE URBAN FORESTRY SESSION THAT WAS
01:08:25PM REALLY INTERESTING.
01:08:25PM AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I RECOMMEND FOLKS TO LOOK AT IS
01:08:29PM RE RELEAF CEDAR RAPIDS.
01:08:35PM R-E-L-E-A-F, RELEAF.
01:08:44PM TORNADO CAME THROUGH AND TOOK OUT THE TREE CANOPY AND HOW TO
01:08:48PM GO FORWARD AND GET THE TREE CANOPY BACK.
01:08:51PM IT WAS INTERESTING WITH THE PRINCIPLES AND PLANS.
01:08:54PM ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING WAS THE
01:08:57PM AVAILABLE OF TREES.
01:08:58PM APPARENTLY HARD TO GET TREES AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY
01:09:01PM INTERESTING.
01:09:01PM I THOUGHT TREES WERE PRETTY EASY OOZY EASY.
01:09:04PM WE HAD OUR OWN LITTLE NURSERY GROWING OAK TREES AND THEY ARE
01:09:08PM PRETTY SMALL.
01:09:09PM BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY LOVED AND WE HAVE NOT
01:09:11PM DONE VERY MUCH OF, BUT T-TAG HAS OFFERED MANY TIMES IS A
01:09:18PM TREE PROPRIETORSHIP WHERE YOUNG TREES ARE CARED FOR BY
01:09:22PM VOLUNTEERS.
01:09:22PM LIKE PEOPLE IN A NEIGHBORHOODS.
01:09:24PM AND THEN THEY ARE TRANSFERRED TO AFTER THEY ARE ESTABLISHED.
01:09:28PM THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF REALLY GREAT IDEAS IN THIS.
01:09:30PM AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SHARING THAT WITH YOU ALL, BUT I
01:09:35PM COULDN'T JUST BELIEF SOME OF THE REALLY PHENOMENAL IDEAS
01:09:39PM THAT -- THAT WERE OUT THERE.
01:09:41PM AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND PEOPLE LOOK UP THE RELIEF CEDAR
01:09:48PM RAPIDS OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND HOW THEY CAME ABOUT DOING
01:09:50PM THAT AND SOMETHING WE CAN USE IN OUR CITY.
01:09:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOMETHING ELSE, WE CAN WITHHOLD THE NEW
01:09:58PM BUSINESS UNTIL THIS EVENING.
01:09:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I HAVE THREE MINUTES ON SOMETHING REALLY
01:10:04PM FAST.
01:10:04PM JUST PRETEND I AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:10:07PM I DID WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING BROUGHT IN PUBLIC COMMENT
01:10:12PM THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR US GOING HERE ON OUT WITH THE
01:10:17PM RACIAL RECONSIDERATION COMMITTEE.
01:10:19PM IT IS IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISH THE HISTORY ON WHAT WE HAVE
01:10:21PM DONE THE HISTORY ON THIS.
01:10:23PM BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS STAYS ON TRACK.
01:10:26PM AND MY OFFICE IS PUTTING A TON OF WORK.
01:10:29PM I WAS ONE THAT ORIGINALLY MADE THE MOTION.
01:10:32PM BRANDON, MY AIDE.
01:10:33PM MARTY SHELBY PUT A TON OF WORK ON THAT.
01:10:37PM I WANTED TO BRIEFLY IN ONE MINUTE TO GO OVER THE HISTORY OF
01:10:42PM THIS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND VERY
01:10:45PM CRITICAL.
01:10:45PM SEVERAL MONTHS WE WERE LOBBIED FEBRUARY 22, 2024.
01:10:49PM I MADE THE MOTION WHERE I STATED THE SAME -- SUBSTANTIALLY
01:10:53PM THE SAME RESOLUTIONS THERE TODAY.
01:10:58PM THREE AND A HALF MONTHS AGO.
01:10:59PM TALK OF COMMUNITY INPUT.
01:11:01PM I WOULDN'T MAKE A MOTION LIKE THAT WITHOUT SPEAKING WITH THE
01:11:04PM COMMUNITY.
01:11:04PM I SPOKE TO THE NAACP, TOBA.
01:11:07PM I WENT TO WFLA AND SPOKE TO A CROWD OF 60 PEOPLE AND STATE
01:11:12PM REPRESENTS DIFFICULT DRISCOL, LEWIS AND OTHERS.
01:11:15PM FLORIDA RISING, MR. HITE.
01:11:19PM WMNF.
01:11:21PM MANY OTHER ADVICE CAME BACK ON APRIL 4.
01:11:24PM I DID A DETAILED MEMO THAT CAME TO CITY COUNCIL DETAILING
01:11:28PM WHAT WOULD BE BE IN THAT RESOLUTION WHICH WAS SUBSTANTIALLY
01:11:32PM IN THAT RESOLUTION AND CAME BACK AND APRIL 18 OF 2024 TO
01:11:35PM DISCUSS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AS TO THEIR INVOLVEMENT.
01:11:38PM WE FUNDS OUT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL MAKE NO
01:11:41PM APPOINTMENT.
01:11:42PM THAT GAVE RISE TO FURTHER ENGAGEMENT IN MY PART AND I SPOKE
01:11:46PM WITH TAMPA HISTORY CENTER, ABBE BROWN MINISTRIES, FLORIDA
01:11:52PM RISING FOR SEATS ON THAT.
01:11:54PM IT CAME BACK TO US MAY 16 THUNDERSHOWER 2024.
01:11:57PM AGAIN, WHAT WE PASSED THEN IS THE SAME THING AS IT IS RIGHTS
01:12:00PM NOW.
01:12:00PM THE COMMUNITY WAS -- TO SAY IT WAS CONSULTED IS AN
01:12:06PM UNDERSTATEMENT, RIGHT.
01:12:06PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH REGARDS
01:12:11PM TO WHAT WE ALL UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BECAUSE A REALLY,
01:12:15PM REALLY GOOD THING AND IMPORTANT WORK.
01:12:17PM IF WE SEE IT THROUGH AND KEEP IT ON TRACK, I THINK IT WILL
01:12:20PM MAKE A GREAT CHANGE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:12:22PM THAT IS ALL, MR. CHAIR.
01:12:23PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:12:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE RIGHT BECAUSE EVENTUALLY 568
01:12:27PM BACK IN 2020.
01:12:27PM THE RESOLUTION CHANGES NUMBERS BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE
01:12:31PM APPOINTMENT.
01:12:32PM YOU SUPPORTED WHAT THE RESOLUTION SAYS.
01:12:35PM IT -- THE PROCEDURE.
01:12:36PM IT -- EVERYTHING IS BEING DONE.
01:12:38PM SOB --
01:12:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY --
01:12:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE NUMBER HAS TO CHANGE.
01:12:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
01:12:48PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, FOR THE RECORD, I WAS DEFENDING -- I WAS
01:12:52PM DEFENDING EVERYBODY UP HERE BECAUSE WE ALL SUPPORTED IN 7-0.
01:12:56PM NO DISSENT.
01:12:56PM AND EVERYBODY HAS BEEN A VERY ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORTER OF IT.
01:13:00PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT POLITICS ARE POLITICS.
01:13:03PM THINGS HAPPEN.
01:13:04PM THAT IS FINE.
01:13:05PM WHEN YOU PUT MAKE A MOTION LIKE THIS, YOU WILL PUT YOURSELF
01:13:09PM OUT THERE.
01:13:10PM IF YOU CAN'T STANDED HEAT, STATE OUT THE KITCHEN.
01:13:14PM I THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT THE RECORD.
01:13:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KNOWS RECEIVE AND FILE.
01:13:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
01:13:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:13:22PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
01:13:23PM FAVOR.
01:13:24PM WITHER ADJOURNED.
01:13:25PM WE ARE BACK AT 5:01 P.M. AND TAKE ALL THE NEW BUSINESS THEN.
01:13:30PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
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