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badbob85037 Poster Posts: 95 Loc: Arizona Reg: 03-13-09 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-12-22 12:18 PM - Post#2841105 I will make this post short and to the point. A year and a half ago I bought a rebuilt 350 Chevy long block from O'Reilly Auto fom my 1974 K-10. It lasted 2 months before it failed. After a couple of phone calls with Gearhead Engines out of Texas it didn't take long to realize I was dealing with liars and cheats. The second engine was never drove out of the drive way. Valves were sticking and the rings were put in up side down and in the wrong groves. O'Reilly was no help getting a third engine. I started filing a law suit. Before I filed it my wife call the national office. She told them about the first two engines and the law suit I was filing and I would not except another engine from Gearhead. They told her they didn't buy engines from Gearhead because of their lack of any type of quility. After finding out the manager did get the engine from gearhead I was given a third engine and was told it was not from Gearhead. These first 2 engines had their VIN numbers removed and MEXICO stamped where the VIN numbers had been. The third engine had also had the VIN numbers removed with MEXICO stamped where the VIN numbers had been. Like an idiot I installed it. This engine won't start because the intake valves are not closing and all it does is backfire out the carb. That is where I'm at. This morning I will run a compression test then lawyer up and get back what I payed including the jobs I lost for the down time on the truck and a year and a half of my labor or go postal.
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Tony1963 Frequent Contributor Posts: 2448 Loc: Orlando Florida Reg: 07-09-18 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-12-22 01:06 PM - Post#2841110 In response to badbob85037 You will have to prove your case. Saying that the engine was assembled wrong and proving it are not the same. You need to have some type of evidence to support your claims. You also had some type of warranty and limitations that you agreed to when you purchased the engine. All warranties that I have read exclude any consequential damages. That means that you cannot collect from other things that go wrong as a result of the product failing. By the time that you pay a lawyer, you will have in excess of the cost of an engine from the GM dealer many times over. However, do as you see fit. If you buy an engine from the retail store, you cannot dictate to them where the engine comes from since that is not your contractual right. People fear change because it threatens what they know, or what they claim to know.
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![]() Valued Contributor Posts: 3415 Loc: Lake George, NY Reg: 11-11-15 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-12-22 01:40 PM - Post#2841112 In response to Tony1963 Plus you would need an expert witness in court to back up your claim, more money. A complaint with the states consumer affairs may help, or states AG office.
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badbob85037 Poster Posts: 95 Loc: Arizona Reg: 03-13-09 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-12-22 08:16 PM - Post#2841122 In response to Shepherd Before they gave me the engine I had dotted the eyes and crossed the t's in a small claims court. I have documented every thing since discovering what a bunch of cornholes they were on the first replacements. If it is an issue any issue I have a lawyer this time and I'll be asking for a lot more than another piece of Cr%& engine, lost wages, my time spent changing them out, lawyer's fees, even because of what a nice guy I have been letting them get away with this assault on good nature. I am beyond mad.
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Tony1963 Frequent Contributor Posts: 2448 Loc: Orlando Florida Reg: 07-09-18 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-13-22 02:31 AM - Post#2841127 In response to badbob85037 You can hire all of the lawyers in the country, but that will not change the law. If the original contract excludes consequential damages, you will collect nothing. The lawyer will gladly take your money. People fear change because it threatens what they know, or what they claim to know.
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![]() "7th Year" Platinum Supporting Member Posts: 525 ![]() Age: 77 Loc: Neosho, MO. Reg: 04-01-18 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-13-22 07:58 AM - Post#2841136 In response to Tony1963 Info----A very influential (unnamed) Owner of a Shingle Co. in JOPLIN MO, traveling, multiple times, to Washington, several years ago, lobbied, at great expense, and got a law passed. 1952 Styleline Sedan-
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![]() "7th Year" Platinum Supporting Member Posts: 525 ![]() Age: 77 Loc: Neosho, MO. Reg: 04-01-18 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-13-22 08:11 AM - Post#2841137 In response to gcrkfrd I have a Small Block Chevy Water Pump, in my Garage, that I bought from them several years ago. All of the bolt holes are 5/16"- 1952 Styleline Sedan-
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kingkreeton Frequent Contributor Posts: 1774 Loc: Houston TX Reg: 04-15-11 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-13-22 09:06 AM - Post#2841141 In response to badbob85037 If you paid for it with a credit card, maybe file a claim with your CC company. Shane
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![]() Valued Contributor Posts: 3415 Loc: Lake George, NY Reg: 11-11-15 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-13-22 09:49 AM - Post#2841142 In response to gcrkfrd Small claims in N.Y. requires filing in the jurisdiction where they do business or have an office, if they are out of state then you are stuck.
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1965C-10 Very Senior Member Posts: 7982 Age: 46 Loc: San Tan Valley AZ "Phoeni... Reg: 11-18-01 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-13-22 01:58 PM - Post#2841159 In response to badbob85037 I wonder if this is the same company called ATK from Texas, also another name that sounds like Marlboro cigarettes, cant remember exactly. Sorry to hear you got ripped off, hope you can get your $$ back and buy a new 350 long block from GM, probably made in Mexico. Where is your original 350? Edit Mabbco engine may be the same company. Edited by 1965C-10 on 05-13-22 02:01 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Tony1963 Frequent Contributor Posts: 2448 Loc: Orlando Florida Reg: 07-09-18 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-13-22 03:25 PM - Post#2841162 In response to 1965C-10 Another problem that you are facing is that the engine design from 1974 ended in 1986 (Gen I engines before major changes). So, at this point, any engine in that era is AT LEAST 36 years old. Yes, you can use a newer design, but consider how many times those engines have been apart, etc. I would always rebuild what I had unless it was beyond repair. People fear change because it threatens what they know, or what they claim to know.
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![]() Senior Moderator Posts: 29786 ![]() Loc: Texas Reg: 08-01-03 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-14-22 10:51 AM - Post#2841197 In response to badbob85037
O'Reilly was no help getting a third engine. I started filing a law suit. Before I filed it my wife call the national office. She told them about the first two engines and the law suit I was filing and I would not except another engine from Gearhead. They told her they didn't buy engines from Gearhead because of their lack of any type of quility. After finding out the manager did get the engine from gearhead I was given a third engine and was told it was not from Gearhead. It's a little hard to follow but it sounds like O'Reilly corporate told you that they don't source engines from Gearhead, but maybe your local store did? It may help you (LONG SHOT) if you can find out if they have a specified vendor for engines or if the local store manager has flexibility in this regard. If he went outside of official vendors you MIGHT (BIG MIGHT) have some recourse. As the others have said though, it's going to be an uphill battle. Richard 06 Silverado ISS / 06 Silverado SS / 06 300C SRT8 / 93 C3500 dually
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Tony1963 Frequent Contributor Posts: 2448 Loc: Orlando Florida Reg: 07-09-18 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-14-22 12:12 PM - Post#2841200 In response to someotherguy I am certain that this auto parts chain has been sued so many times it is beyond count. Filing the lawsuit will barely invoke a yawn from their corporate office. They've had lawyers working for them since they were first organized as a business. Your purchase contract covers the terms of the transaction. Any judge or lawyer cannot invent new terms. I'd love to have a front row seat to this case, just to watch the fireworks. People fear change because it threatens what they know, or what they claim to know.
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bobb Super Senior Member Posts: 6667 Loc: paradise Reg: 09-05-03 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-15-22 12:34 PM - Post#2841226 In response to badbob85037 sounds like an atk nightmare. 1st one i put in, couldnt bolt a starter to. 2nd one had a rod knock on start up. 3rd one blew up in less than 500 miles. i feel your pain. 70 L camino, grampa engine, g-force 5 spd, road rage suspension. Pray first before all else fails.
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![]() Senior Member Posts: 1567 ![]() Loc: Missouri Reg: 06-14-03 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-16-22 09:53 AM - Post#2841280 In response to bobb The best recourse I have experienced with issues such as these is to write a NICE letter going through the issues one by one, step by step, to the corporate office, and COPY the Attorney General in your state. Attach copies of documentation to both corporate and the AG. NOTHING gets the attention of corporate like an official letter asking for details from the AG. The key here may be to get someone that is not angry to write the letter for you. A letter that reeks anger will acquire worse results than one that does not. Good luck. Jon. Good carburetion is fuelish hot air! The most expensive carburetor you will ever buy.....is the incorrect one you attempt to modify! If you truly believe "one size fits all", trying walking a mile in your spouse's shoes!
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Tony1963 Frequent Contributor Posts: 2448 Loc: Orlando Florida Reg: 07-09-18 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-16-22 03:09 PM - Post#2841300 In response to carbking There is a legal theory of "impossible" meaning that if best efforts are made to come up with a product and it simply isn't available, the contract can be voided. Of course, you'd get your money back and you'd have to be fairly compensated for your core, assuming that you surrendered one. People fear change because it threatens what they know, or what they claim to know.
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![]() Member #271 Senior Chevytalk Moderator Posts: 26056 ![]() Loc: Austin, TX 78748 Reg: 05-09-00 User Info Send Private Topic | 05-17-22 03:53 AM - Post#2841323 In response to Tony1963 A friend had a similar issue. It was a F$%D with a 351W vs 351 Cleveland. The wrong one was ordered first since my friend didn't know what was installed. The correct engine had mismatching heads! The third engine finally looked good enough to install. It ran for years before the truck was sold. I would remove parts, covers, and pan to check before installing any over the counter motor. I found my ZZ4 on Craigslist. The intake, valve covers, and pan all came off for inspection. To this day, it runs great and no oil leaks. '83 Silverardo XST - ZZ4 powered
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badbob85037 Poster Posts: 95 Loc: Arizona Reg: 03-13-09 User Info Send Private Topic | 06-03-22 11:57 PM - Post#2842275 In response to 1965C-10 Yes it is the same company. They have gone by so many names righting them all would give your hand cramps.
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badbob85037 Poster Posts: 95 Loc: Arizona Reg: 03-13-09 User Info Send Private Topic | 06-04-22 12:07 AM - Post#2842276 In response to carbking I can be real nice when I want but that letter would be more like a book.
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